T-Mobile moves customers off 2G!

[Wireless Junkie]

It's been almost ten years for Verizon an they have patches of 1X, what does that say?

The patches of 1X are so insignificant compared to the mass swaths of GPRS/EDGE T-Mobile has though. Less than 1% of Verizon's coverage is 1X, hardly even worth mentioning. The Majority of T-Mobile's coverage though is still 2G unfortunately.

[jarrodpd]

The patches of 1X are so insignificant compared to the mass swaths of GPRS/EDGE T-Mobile has though. Less than 1% of Verizon's coverage is 1X, hardly even worth mentioning. The Majority of T-Mobile's coverage though is still 2G unfortunately.

The point I'm making is T-Mobile has only been deploying 3G for five years whereas Verizon has been doing the same for almost ten, They are going to complain about T-Mobile having 2G coverage when Verizon still relies on it in some areas. It was a pointless comment on their part. I agree with you on T-Mobile needing to cover up their 2G coverage significantly and with their multi mode base station deployment over the next two or so years it will start becoming a less likely occurrence.

[Wireless Junkie]

The point I'm making is T-Mobile has only been deploying 3G for five years whereas Verizon has been doing the same for almost ten, They are going to complain about T-Mobile having 2G coverage when Verizon still relies on it in some areas. It was a pointless comment on their part. I agree with you on T-Mobile needing to cover up their 2G coverage significantly and with their multi mode base station deployment over the next two or so years it will start becoming a less likely occurrence.

For only a couple of years, T-Mobile is doing pretty good. If everything was at least EDGE, I would be very happy overall, if they just had roaming anywhere they didn't have native coverage to connect to AT&T that would be great, even if for just basic voice and text.

[Androided]

T-mobile another stupid move, it drives customers out; the coverage becomes smaller and smaller, then it eventually dead!

[brad15]

For only a couple of years, T-Mobile is doing pretty good. If everything was at least EDGE, I would be very happy overall, if they just had roaming anywhere they didn't have native coverage to connect to AT&T that would be great, even if for just basic voice and text.

T-Mobile used to have a pretty good roaming agreement that was formed between early T-Mobile and Cingular, but as soon as that was up AT$T wanted to really raise rates to a point it was not feasible to do this. I am fairly sure the agreement for the failed merger will cause more roaming to be available, but that will take some time to negotiate.

Honestly i rarely if ever hit GPRS anymore, and usually have 3G in 99.9% of the rural parts of AZ i go to now, and the EDGE is quite usable wherever i've had to use it.

I cant wait for the PCS reband here in Phoenix, as i really want to use an iPhone again, but refuse to leave T-Mobile as my primary carrier.

[MrObvious]

You didn't read the thread right. They aren't shutting it off but minimizing it so they can upgrade to 3g.

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[DRNewcomb]

The patches of 1X are so insignificant compared to the mass swaths of GPRS/EDGE T-Mobile has though. Less than 1% of Verizon's coverage is 1X, hardly even worth mentioning. The Majority of T-Mobile's coverage though is still 2G unfortunately.

My wife's CDMA phone roams on Verizon and we recently encountered a lot of 1X while driving around the eastern US on vacation. Maybe if we had stopped and waited for a better connection we could have gotten EV-DO but at the time it didn't seem like blanket 3G.

[n2jtx]

My wife's CDMA phone roams on Verizon and we recently encountered a lot of 1X while driving around the eastern US on vacation. Maybe if we had stopped and waited for a better connection we could have gotten EV-DO but at the time it didn't seem like blanket 3G.

If your wife has Sprint then no amount of waiting would get you EV-DO. Sprint limits data roaming on Verizon to 1x. There are several places here on Long Island where I wind up roaming on VZW because of a marginal Sprint signal. I always run 1x in those cases.

[brad15]

If your wife has Sprint then no amount of waiting would get you EV-DO. Sprint limits data roaming on Verizon to 1x. There are several places here on Long Island where I wind up roaming on VZW because of a marginal Sprint signal. I always run 1x in those cases.

Well it's not hard to modify a Sprint PRL to get 3G on VZW, i have that PRL on my phone and get 3G no matter what network i'm on

[newyork4me]

The point I'm making is T-Mobile has only been deploying 3G for five years whereas Verizon has been doing the same for almost ten, They are going to complain about T-Mobile having 2G coverage when Verizon still relies on it in some areas. It was a pointless comment on their part. I agree with you on T-Mobile needing to cover up their 2G coverage significantly and with their multi mode base station deployment over the next two or so years it will start becoming a less likely occurrence.

This may be true, but consider LTE. VZW already covers more people with LTE than T-Mobile does with 3G, and will have virtually the entire country covered by LTE in roughly a year. I am sure there will still be numerous GPRS/EDGE-only areas on T-Mobile in a year.

Even Sprint is going to have their entire footprint in LTE by the end of 2013. There's no doubt about it: T-Mobile is the furthest behind in upgrading their network.

[Antenna]

This may be true, but consider LTE. VZW already covers more people with LTE than T-Mobile does with 3G, and will have virtually the entire country covered by LTE in roughly a year. I am sure there will still be numerous GPRS/EDGE-only areas on T-Mobile in a year.

Even Sprint is going to have their entire footprint in LTE by the end of 2013. There's no doubt about it: T-Mobile is the furthest behind in upgrading their network.

So what? Sprints network *now* is trash, Verizon charges the outrageous $90 for on line, and at&t drops more calls than any other network. Use whatever works. If T-Mobile continues to charge $10/2GB and its only HSPA+ they will still be made.

All they need is the iPhone

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[Kies]

I will bet money on the fact that Verizon will not meet their set goal in LTE coverage and if they do it will be patchy coverage like it is now and VZ LTE does not exceed T-Mobile's HSPA+ footprint nor the regular 3G footprint. In the markets it has launched in, coverage is not 100% either.

[Wireless Junkie]

I will bet money on the fact that Verizon will not meet their set goal in LTE coverage and if they do it will be patchy coverage like it is now and VZ LTE does not exceed T-Mobile's HSPA+ footprint nor the regular 3G footprint. In the markets it has launched in, coverage is not 100% either.

Umm Verizon's LTE coverage already exceeds T-Mobile's HSPA+ and regular 3G coverage and has for a while now.

There is no reason for Verizon not to meet their goal, unlike the other companies here they actually have the will and resources to complete their goal..

All the nay sayer's said they wouldn't have half the coverage they do right now. Right now their LTE still put's T-Mobile's 3G footprint to shame and is still expanding rapidly.

[Wireless Junkie]

My wife's CDMA phone roams on Verizon and we recently encountered a lot of 1X while driving around the eastern US on vacation. Maybe if we had stopped and waited for a better connection we could have gotten EV-DO but at the time it didn't seem like blanket 3G.

Sprint doesn't support consumer line's roaming on EVDO except in few select Alltel area's which have nearly all disappeared now. You will have 1X only roaming unless you mod your PRL, the only way to see true EV coverage with Verizon really is to have a phone setup specifically for EVDO natively on Verizon. Even the PRL trick hasn't been foolproof for me.

[jet1000]

Right now their LTE still put's T-Mobile's 3G footprint to shame and is still expanding rapidly.

Yes, it's gotten pretty bad. T-Mobile has fallen far behind Verizon.