All this legal hoopla is starting to become irritating to me as a consumer. I want the best possible device, not companies suing each other and setting up patents for obvious and basic functions. This kind of legal work by Apple is part of what drives me away from becoming a user of the iPhone.
All this legal hoopla is starting to become irritating to me as a consumer. I want the best possible device, not companies suing each other and setting up patents for obvious and basic functions. This kind of legal work by Apple is part of what drives me away from becoming a user of the iPhone.
That doesn't excuse the stealing of tech and claiming it for the common good. It only hurts the common good. People stop innovating, because they see no way to protect their new ideas as theirs. I am all for community sourced software and free sourced alternatives to commercial software. Google's OS trades your free download of their product for a centralized data mining of your privacy. It is a commercial trade off bound by terms of service and contracts that the user must give consent with before using or they don't get to play. Have fun using Google's closed source of proprietary apps without consenting your privacy.
All this legal hoopla is starting to become irritating to me as a consumer. I want the best possible device, not companies suing each other and setting up patents for obvious and basic functions. This kind of legal work by Apple is part of what drives me away from becoming a user of the iPhone.
Samsung files something like 10x the number of patents that Apple
does. You think they just let people use their IP? Search is a basic foundation of any compsci study. So, you think anyone should be able to use Google very guarded algorithms of such a basic function?
Double standards and poorly thought out positions seem to drive Android diehards.
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Was it now? How about you back that statement up with some proof? I know you have your android blinders on but let's not distort reality.
I was always lead to believe they were being developed at the same time.
Also Android was released AFTER iOS, so really Android could have been in development since 1990, it wouldn't matter since there was no actual, usable version...
words fail me. perhaps you're in denial, wriggling this way and that playing with semantics. well, have fun but you're still wrong.
i can see why you use apple products LOL
Originally Posted by jcalder
1. Words fail you because no words can make you right and you know it.
2. You want to talk wriggling? Look in the mirror. You haven't answered any questions or contradicted any arguments presented in this topic because you know you're wrong. It's kind of sad really when all you've got left is "LOL".
Please refrain from engaging other users! Discuss the subject at hand, not each other. No need to get personal! Please consider this your only warning.
I am a little confused. My Verizon phone was able to roam on GSM because they used TDMA. Tell it was shutdown. The phone recognizes it as Analog. If PCS has TDMA, It could be technically be used on GSM.
Originally Posted by Tabla
Y'know, I'm used to hysterical 14-year-old ******** on the internet, but this is exceptional. Never before in human history have so many nerds hyperventilated so publicly over so little.
Samsung files something like 10x the number of patents that Apple
does. You think they just let people use their IP? Search is a basic foundation of any compsci study. So, you think anyone should be able to use Google very guarded algorithms of such a basic function?
Double standards and poorly thought out positions seem to drive Android diehards.
I guess I should not have just singled out Apple, I mean this for other manufacturers as well.
I guess I should not have just singled out Apple, I mean this for other manufacturers as well.
I think that is what gets under my skin. People single out Apple as if they are someone unique in their legal stance on their IP. They aren't. In fact prior to the 'smartphone wars' Apple was one of the least litigious tech companies. Apart from their famous lawsuit against MS, I can't recall another major case where they sued direct competitors for infringement. Once competitors started suing Apple, they realized this was the norm in the wireless world and joined the party, but people blame Apple for the escalation.
I apologize, as I was a bit caustic in my response to you, just gets tiring hearing Apple blamed or singled out against reason, especially in this and other threads that have attracted the usual mob.
I think that is what gets under my skin. People single out Apple as if they are someone unique in their legal stance on their IP. They aren't. In fact prior to the 'smartphone wars' Apple was one of the least litigious tech companies. Apart from their famous lawsuit against MS, I can't recall another major case where they sued direct competitors for infringement. Once competitors started suing Apple, they realized this was the norm in the wireless world and joined the party, but people blame Apple for the escalation.
I apologize, as I was a bit caustic in my response to you, just gets tiring hearing Apple blamed or singled out against reason, especially in this and other threads that have attracted the usual mob.
I think that is what gets under my skin. People single out Apple as if they are someone unique in their legal stance on their IP. They aren't. In fact prior to the 'smartphone wars' Apple was one of the least litigious tech companies. Apart from their famous lawsuit against MS, I can't recall another major case where they sued direct competitors for infringement. Once competitors started suing Apple, they realized this was the norm in the wireless world and joined the party, but people blame Apple for the escalation.
I apologize, as I was a bit caustic in my response to you, just gets tiring hearing Apple blamed or singled out against reason, especially in this and other threads that have attracted the usual mob.
LOL. and i'm the pope.
i wonder who said this: "i'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this" in his determination to litigate anything and everything that threatens apple because apple aren't able to compete on merit
i wonder who said this: "i'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this" in his determination to litigate anything and everything that threatens apple because apple aren't able to compete on merit
In the context you provided, no one said that. An honest person could admit that.
i wonder who said this: "i'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this" in his determination to litigate anything and everything that threatens apple because apple aren't able to compete on merit
1. Tim Cook runs Apple these days, not Steve. It's sad he's gone and isn't going to be walking through the door at 1 Infinite Loop, but life goes on.
2. Cook himself has said he's open to cross-licensing, but Apple can't afford to be developer to the world.
3. Jobs was the King of Hyperbole. There's plenty of times he went postal with his rhetoric only to later back off. So, if we're going to turn this into a game of "What would Steve do?", there's your answer.
Even if Apple wins, no products will get permabanned, instead, Apple will get $2.8 billion. That works out at about $56 for each Galaxy S phone sold if my math is correct. Microsoft has fewer patents on Android than Apple does and they get between $25 and $30 off of each Galaxy S phone sold. Given that Apple itself popularized and put together the very components of a touchscreen smartphone with the patents, people, ideas, and technology they have, I think that's fair. I would also guess that if Apple wins, they're probably going to get a similar cut out of devices made by HTC and Motogoo.
1. Tim Cook runs Apple these days, not Steve. It's sad he's gone and isn't going to be walking through the door at 1 Infinite Loop, but life goes on.
2. Cook himself has said he's open to cross-licensing, but Apple can't afford to be developer to the world.
3. Jobs was the King of Hyperbole. There's plenty of times he went postal with his rhetoric only to later back off. So, if we're going to turn this into a game of "What would Steve do?", there's your answer.
Even if Apple wins, no products will get permabanned, instead, Apple will get $2.8 billion. That works out at about $56 for each Galaxy S phone sold if my math is correct. Microsoft has fewer patents on Android than Apple does and they get between $25 and $30 off of each Galaxy S phone sold. Given that Apple itself popularized and put together the very components of a touchscreen smartphone with the patents, people, ideas, and technology they have, I think that's fair. I would also guess that if Apple wins, they're probably going to get a similar cut out of devices made by HTC and Motogoo.
Further, MSFT has a much larger patent portfolio than Apple does. It is reasonable to believe they would command a higher royalty than Apple. $56 in royalties for phone is completely unrealistic, that is about 10% of the purchase price of a new phone.
1. Tim Cook runs Apple these days, not Steve. It's sad he's gone and isn't going to be walking through the door at 1 Infinite Loop, but life goes on.
2. Cook himself has said he's open to cross-licensing, but Apple can't afford to be developer to the world.
3. Jobs was the King of Hyperbole. There's plenty of times he went postal with his rhetoric only to later back off. So, if we're going to turn this into a game of "What would Steve do?", there's your answer.
Even if Apple wins, no products will get permabanned, instead, Apple will get $2.8 billion. That works out at about $56 for each Galaxy S phone sold if my math is correct. Microsoft has fewer patents on Android than Apple does and they get between $25 and $30 off of each Galaxy S phone sold. Given that Apple itself popularized and put together the very components of a touchscreen smartphone with the patents, people, ideas, and technology they have, I think that's fair. I would also guess that if Apple wins, they're probably going to get a similar cut out of devices made by HTC and Motogoo.
apple doesn't have any valid patents on android.
apple didn't invent anything with regard to the smartphone (apple are world infamous for stealing everyone else's ideas and then claiming them as their own). with the iphone they bought the company that did the innovation and since then they have done nothing new. that's why everything has been thrown out of court so far as being invalid, stupid, or prior art. they are desperate to eliminate all competition because they know they can't compete on merit
if i were you i would do some research before burbling away
this article should increase your knowledge 1000-fold as to why apple are suing every company left right and centre in their desperation. some quotes:
Whether die-hard fans like to admit it or not, the iPhone has fallen behind in appearance as well as technology. Samsung, Motorola Mobility (now part of Google) plus all the other makers of Android phones have been delivering faster and thinner models with bigger screens and ever slicker multi-tasking software at a blinding pace. Once-loyal Apple customers have become less impressed.
With the magic wearing off, Apple’s global attack on Samsung is aimed primarily at winning injunctions to drive the South Korean company (the most successful of the Android makers by far) off the market.
If, as it seems, Apple has had to resort to the courts to stifle competition and limit consumer choice, then it is a sad day for American innovation. That the company can do so with such impunity is an even sadder reflection of how dysfunctional the patent system in the United States has become.
apple doesn't have any valid patents on android.
apple didn't invent anything with regard to the smartphone. with the iphone they bought the company that did the innovation and since then they have done nothing new. that's why everything has been thrown out of court so far as being invalid, stupid, or prior art. they are desperate to eliminate all competition because they know they can't compete on merit
if i were you i would do some research before burbling away
this article should increase your knowledge 1000-fold as to why apple are suing every company left right and centre in their desperation. some quotes:
Again, your post tends to be full of opinions (nice to have I guess) but the facts appear made up again. That sad part is that you actually seem to base your opinions on those made up facts.
Example: has everything be thrown out of court?
I love that Apple fans used to be considered cult-like, yet here we continue to see examples of the new evangelicals. Android fans seem to have become such blind zealots they don't even let actual facts bother them. Aside from visiting Apple forums to proselytize, do you guys do the whole door to door 'missions'?
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