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Thread: How do I talk my2 18yr old girls out of an IPhone?

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    no intention of:
    fighting 2 18 year old females-just wanting to educate them about alternative phones & cost savings.
    Just giving them what they want. Sure they can buy these phones themselves buy I am certainly not paying dime 1 toward them. IMO this is still a major luxury item for most people.
    Letting them do and or get whatever they want. So long as I am footing the bill for school, housing, food & board there are certain expectations I consider to be non-negotiable. If they want to move out and and become clerks at the dollar store so be it. Then I will have no say in their lives.
    Wait for USCC to get Iphones. I cannot ever see this happening. Too small a company I do believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimpshrine View Post
    You two just go ahead and have a slapping match to finish this off, because that's what I always envision when an Apple fay boy and an Android fan boy are arguing about the two.
    Android and iOS fanboys really annoy me. They each have a lot of pros and cons, and some people just can't understand that which one is "better" depends on the individual customer and what they need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppsi View Post
    no intention of:
    fighting 2 18 year old females-just wanting to educate them about alternative phones & cost savings.
    Just giving them what they want. Sure they can buy these phones themselves buy I am certainly not paying dime 1 toward them. IMO this is still a major luxury item for most people.
    Letting them do and or get whatever they want. So long as I am footing the bill for school, housing, food & board there are certain expectations I consider to be non-negotiable. If they want to move out and and become clerks at the dollar store so be it. Then I will have no say in their lives.
    Wait for USCC to get Iphones. I cannot ever see this happening. Too small a company I do believe.
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    Howard
    If C Spire can get the iPhone, I'm pretty sure USCC could do it if they wanted to. They are just waiting for an LTE iPhone in my opinion, and the iPhone 5 will almost certainly have LTE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ropp29 View Post
    If C Spire can get the iPhone, I'm pretty sure USCC could do it if they wanted to. They are just waiting for an LTE iPhone in my opinion, and the iPhone 5 will almost certainly have LTE.
    What is the LTE if you would excuse my ignorance? People have been doing it for years so maybe you will oblige as well?

    I think my question about the two phones is unanswerable. I suspect the whole argument/debate is about personal preference which I can respect. If it works for you and you are happy with either phone OS then it's good for you and doesn't effect me.

    I appreciate the knowledge I've gained here and I now have a better understanding of those with both platforms.
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    I say if they want iPhones, want to sign up for ATT (or whoever), pay for them themselves, let them. They'll be back......

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    If no one's brought it up, Virgin's got the 16GB iPhone 4s for full price ($650) but then service is $30/40/50 for 300/1200/unlimited minutes, so it's cheaper then USCC.

    As for why an iPhone-depends. iOS supports dealing with/syncing podcasts from a PC far better than any other mobile OS. Right now only iOS has TomTom software (although supposedly an Android version is coming soon). Also only iOS and Google's Nexus devices (which USCC doesn't offer) get OS updates in a timely fashion...or in some cases at all, keeping you safer online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppsi View Post
    What is the LTE if you would excuse my ignorance? People have been doing it for years so maybe you will oblige as well?

    I think my question about the two phones is unanswerable. I suspect the whole argument/debate is about personal preference which I can respect. If it works for you and you are happy with either phone OS then it's good for you and doesn't effect me.

    I appreciate the knowledge I've gained here and I now have a better understanding of those with both platforms.
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    LTE is the 4G network technology (faster speeds than 3G) that most carriers, including USCC, are using or planning to use. Apple is taking it's time adopting it, and chose not to include 4G LTE capability in the iPhone 4S. USCC was actually offered the iPhone 4S and turned it down. I believe the reason was that it wasn't LTE, and putting down such a big investment on a phone with outdated network technology wasn't worth it to USCC. The money was better spent building out the LTE network. I strongly suspect that once an iPhone with LTE is out, that USCC will get it. Apple would be insane not to include LTE in the iPhone 5, because it would probably lose a lot of sales on carriers with big LTE networks if it didn't.

    Also USCC probably wanted to wait and see how the iPhone does on other regional/local carriers before they risk a ton of money on it. It costs carriers a lot to offer the iPhone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerwolf View Post
    If no one's brought it up, Virgin's got the 16GB iPhone 4s for full price ($650) but then service is $30/40/50 for 300/1200/unlimited minutes, so it's cheaper then USCC.

    As for why an iPhone-depends. iOS supports dealing with/syncing podcasts from a PC far better than any other mobile OS. Right now only iOS has TomTom software (although supposedly an Android version is coming soon). Also only iOS and Google's Nexus devices (which USCC doesn't offer) get OS updates in a timely fashion...or in some cases at all, keeping you safer online.
    I think the upgrade factor is a huge point in favor of iOS. I would like to buy a phone that I know isn't going to be abandonware as soon as a new OS version comes out. I'm not sure why TomTom is a big deal for you, considering Google Maps for Android has built-in navigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ropp29 View Post
    USCC was actually offered the iPhone 4S and turned it down. I believe the reason was that it wasn't LTE
    That would make no sense. Presumably they just didn't like the high cost of the phone, or something else about the contract, and hoped they could get away with no offering it.

    putting down such a big investment on a phone with outdated network technology
    That "outdated technology" is in fact what the vast majority of people actually use to connect to a cell phone network.

    The money was better spent building out the LTE network.
    "Better spent"? Why does it cost them anything? I'd say maybe they need some minimum commitment, but smaller companies than USCC have it already. And if it costs more, charge more for it. There's no money that would have been spent on an iPhone instead of network upgrades. I'd assume the iPhone 6 will have LTE support though, but IT really doesn't need it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ropp29 View Post
    I think the upgrade factor is a huge point in favor of iOS. I would like to buy a phone that I know isn't going to be abandonware as soon as a new OS version comes out. I'm not sure why TomTom is a big deal for you, considering Google Maps for Android has built-in navigation.
    TomTom's software is excellent, and doesn't require a data connection (and is of course better even if it did). That alone could be a strong incentive to go with iOS, though hopefully the Android version really is coming and really will be on par with the iOS one.

    Hmm...wonder if there's any chance that 5 years from now you'd be able to buy an unlocked Nexus 90 or whatever and use it with USCC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerwolf View Post
    That would make no sense. Presumably they just didn't like the high cost of the phone, or something else about the contract, and hoped they could get away with no offering it.



    That "outdated technology" is in fact what the vast majority of people actually use to connect to a cell phone network.



    "Better spent"? Why does it cost them anything? I'd say maybe they need some minimum commitment, but smaller companies than USCC have it already. And if it costs more, charge more for it. There's no money that would have been spent on an iPhone instead of network upgrades. I'd assume the iPhone 6 will have LTE support though, but IT really doesn't need it either.
    Why does it cost them anything? Because carriers massively subsidize the phones they carry and the iPhone is not cheap. I think the average selling price of an iPhone is over $600 to the carriers. http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...ying-carriers/ And as for 3G being outdated, ask someone who lives in an LTE coverage area and see what they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ropp29 View Post
    Because carriers massively subsidize the phones they carry and the iPhone is not cheap.
    Again, so what? They charge more. How does it cost them anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerwolf View Post
    Again, so what? They charge more. How does it cost them anything?
    Not sure what you mean. I suppose they could raise the price to where they aren't subsidizing them any more than a typical Android phone, but I doubt customers would appreciate something like a $300 iPhone when every single other carrier starts at $200.

    And that's IF Apple even lets carriers adjust the price. That may be barred by whatever agreement Apple makes the carrier agree to in order to carry the iPhone.

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    Also, Apple requires carriers to purchase a set amount of phones outright. It can be a huge investment. I suspect that would have cut into the funds needed to implement the LTE network.

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    The Iphone isn't working for Sprint right now. There now losing even more money a quarter then they did before.

    http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/sprint-q2-2012/

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