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    Quote Originally Posted by zephxiii View Post
    WCDMA carriers are only deployed in 5x5.

    Are they using the full 15x15 of AWS in NYC? Or did they clear up some of it for LTE? It seems 15x15 does seem a bit restraining for a place like NYC but in the PCMag comparison they did well, beating VZW LTE avg, and near tie w/ it's max.

    Kinda curious y Tmobile's dropped call rate has been meh.
    In nyc i dont see speeds past 8 or 9.


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    I stumbled across a news post saying that "more then 32,000 sites have fiber backhaul". When I first read that 95% of their network had enhanced backhaul I thought they meant of their 3G network because it would be pointless to have EDGE using something it could never max out but apparently I miss interpreted it. Maybe now that they have most towers with enhanced backhaul they plan on going all out with upgrading to H+ and possibly LTE.

    http://www.ntca.org/new-edge/wireles...eless-backhaul

    EDIT: Also another post says they have started deploying LTE, I'm sure they are referring to the multi mode base stations though.

    http://www.fiercemobileit.com/story/...ete/2012-08-07


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    Quote Originally Posted by zephxiii View Post
    WCDMA carriers are only deployed in 5x5.

    Are they using the full 15x15 of AWS in NYC? Or did they clear up some of it for LTE? It seems 15x15 does seem a bit restraining for a place like NYC but in the PCMag comparison they did well, beating VZW LTE avg, and near tie w/ it's max.

    Kinda curious y Tmobile's dropped call rate has been meh.
    This should answer your questions about dropped calls in NYC on T-Mobile as well as other carriers. The report also includes things like texting delay and data speeds.

    Here you go:



    http://www.rootmetrics.com/compare-c...may-2012/#call
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    How does verizon have strong call quality in nyc when it sounds like they are under water atleast when i use my verizon blackberry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terryjohnson16 View Post
    How does verizon have strong call quality in nyc when it sounds like they are under water atleast when i use my verizon blackberry.

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    The test doesn't take call quality into consideration. It focuses on dropped calls, blocked calls and total call failures.

    Personally, while I value call quality, I would rather have a bit worse call quality than have the call drop completely on me, especially if it's an important call.

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    That is what's strange to me, they seem to have ample capacity yet they are kinda up there in drop rate.


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    I wonder if nyc data speeds are slow cause they took aws away from hspa to put on lte.

    Fiber should boost our slow data speeds here in nyc. But it hasnt.

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    Something I find interesting about New York is that they were talking about At&T LTE yet they were only .4mbps faster then T-Mobile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrodpd View Post
    I stumbled across a news post saying that "more then 32,000 sites have fiber backhaul". When I first read that 95% of their network had enhanced backhaul I thought they meant of their 3G network because it would be pointless to have EDGE using something it could never max out but apparently I miss interpreted it. Maybe now that they have most towers with enhanced backhaul they plan on going all out with upgrading to H+ and possibly LTE.

    http://www.ntca.org/new-edge/wireles...eless-backhaul

    EDIT: Also another post says they have started deploying LTE, I'm sure they are referring to the multi mode base stations though.

    http://www.fiercemobileit.com/story/...ete/2012-08-07
    Well that is interesting. It wouldn't be too hard to have Fiber/Ethernet backhaul to 2G only cell sites. They can provision the speed for their current needs, then they can upgrade later once they need higher speeds - they just need to pay the backhaul provider more money and they will bump the speed up. The connection is already capable of 100 Mbps or more, they just need to pay for the level of service they want. Unlike telco T1s, there won't be a long waiting period and a truck roll.

    If they have the backhaul, hopefully this means we will see an EDGE to HSPA+ transition real soon. Once they finish the refarm in the larger cities, it should not take long to get HSPA+ running in some of the more rural areas where cell sites are spaced far apart and have a larger coverage radius.

    Hopefully they haven't forgotten about the GPRS only areas. Those really need to be upgraded.
    Bars are not a true indication of signal strength or quality.

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