AT&T plans to shut down entire 2G network by 2017

[formercanuck]

Yeah, just a very tiny small chunk of territory. LOL

Large by area, small by population. I drove I-75 up Michigan last week, and it was EDGE / GSM from mile 173 to nearly Mackinaw City. Data sucked. With the exception of a few towns on the way... its nothing much but lake/tree/rock. 165 miles miles worth.
If I lived there, I wouldn't be using AT&T for data, assuming there was another carrier that covered it. Grayling, Gaylord and Rosscommon combined add up to 5000 residents according to Wiki

[zephxiii]

Yeah right, Verizon is going to complete their LTE network by the end of 2013 and then sit there doing nothing while AT&T takes the next 4 years to upgrade the rest of the country to HSPA and then maybe complete their LTE network, and THEN start working on VoLTE and LTE-A.

Right.......... and why the hell would u assume they would have to "complete" LTE network to start working on VoLTE and LTE-A? Lol....

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[dustman81]

Large by area, small by population. I drove I-75 up Michigan last week, and it was EDGE / GSM from mile 173 to nearly Mackinaw City. Data sucked. With the exception of a few towns on the way... its nothing much but lake/tree/rock. 165 miles miles worth.
If I lived there, I wouldn't be using AT&T for data, assuming there was another carrier that covered it. Grayling, Gaylord and Rosscommon combined add up to 5000 residents according to Wiki

There's a large chunk of EDGE coverage on I71 between Cleveland and Columbus. Hope they can get that upgraded soon.

[ggore]

You take I-40?

No, we took US 412 from Enid to Springer, NM (428 mi), then I-25 to Santa Fe (135 mi). EDGE all the way except for a 10 mile circle around Woodward.

[Airb330]

I just drove 500 miles from my home in Oklahoma to Santa Fe with friends. We live at the edge of AT&T's 3G service, traveled through the Oklahoma panhandle, native AT&T service most of the way, just EDGE, no 3G at all, not reaching an area where AT&T has HSPA until we arrived here in Santa Fe. My friends all have AT&T service, their phones worked once in a while on way out here, while my Verizon phone worked just fine the entire way except for one stretch of 40 miles.

Since we have been here, my Verizon iPad has been serving duty in the hotel as a wifi hotspot using Verizon's LTE since AT&T's service here sucks, to put it plainly. It's supposed to be HSPA according to the coverage maps but is unusable for data in most places. For example, at the Starbucks on the Plaza, AT&T is useless for phone service or data, requiring one to use their wifi. My Verizon iPhone has worked great here, their 3G service has been just fine with 2Mb download speeds the norm. My Verizon iPad has worked flawlessly on LTE. AT&T has no LTE in New Mexico.

So sorry if I don't agree that AT&T's system is great all over the country.

Well I don't agree Verizon' system is so great. It is so highly valued on hofo, yet I am hardly ever impressed by Verizon. If AT&T stinks in your area, then don't use it.

I have to use Verizon in order to get it subsidized by my employer, or I have to carry two phones (Verizon iPhone/BB and another carrier). I hated having two phones, but I am fed up with Verizon's lack of adequate cell sites. I am amazed that in NE or OK or TN they seem to be on every cell tower, yet here in Philadelphia if you're in the 'burbs at&t has 5/5 bars and Verizon is 1X with 1 bar. I don't drop many calls on Verizon anymore, but data coverage is laughable in so many areas.

Now don't get me wrong, at&t used to be terrible in Philly back in 2007-2008. I'd drop 10 calls while walking; it was really ridiculous, but as far as I can tell now, they blow Verizon out of the water in indoor coverage//signal strength. I do think at&t is ignoring some rural areas, and that isn't right. Even in rural PA, at&t may be EDGE only in some areas, but they still are very competitive in coverage with Verizon. Verizon's 3G in many weak/rural areas is just as slow as EDGE, so once again, they are competitive with each other in rural PA. I wonder why that isn't the case elsewhere?

[ggore]

Large by area, small by population. I drove I-75 up Michigan last week, and it was EDGE / GSM from mile 173 to nearly Mackinaw City. Data sucked. With the exception of a few towns on the way... its nothing much but lake/tree/rock. 165 miles miles worth.
If I lived there, I wouldn't be using AT&T for data, assuming there was another carrier that covered it. Grayling, Gaylord and Rosscommon combined add up to 5000 residents according to Wiki

Small in population, yes, but are those areas not included in AT&T's plan to upgrade the EDGE to HSPA by 2017? Or to cover with LTE?

[kneedragger32]

No, we took US 412 from Enid to Springer, NM (428 mi), then I-25 to Santa Fe (135 mi). EDGE all the way except for a 10 mile circle around Woodward.

Kk, we hit 40 @little rock to Santa Fe every year heading to espaniola (actually El Rito but nobody knows where that is) to Elk hunt. Once outside Yukon it's all edge to Amarillo then edge again to Santa Fe.

[ggore]

Right.......... and why the hell would u assume they would have to "complete" LTE network to start working on VoLTE and LTE-A? Lol....

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You said in your previous post that AT&T and Verizon will be working on and completing VoLTE and LTE-Advanced at the same time. I'm saying Verizon will be done with all that LONG before AT&T really gets going. It's not really difficult to see what my point was, no need to twist it.

[bsocko]

I agree. If att had total hspa+ overlay instead of edge only areas att would beat out Verizon.

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[ggore]

Kk, we hit 40 @little rock to Santa Fe every year heading to espaniola (actually El Rito but nobody knows where that is) to Elk hunt. Once outside Yukon it's all edge to Amarillo then edge again to Santa Fe.

AT&T along I-40 is HSPA now from Yukon to Clinton, 3G to the Texas line, HSPA around Amarillo, and there is 3G from I-40 to Santa Fe on US 285. Verizon is now LTE from OKC to Elk City (111 miles), and LTE in Santa Fe.

[kneedragger32]

I-40 is HSPA now from Yukon to Clinton, 3G to the Texas line, HSPA around Amarillo, and there is 3G from I-40 to Santa Fe on US 285.

Awesome. It'll give my Verizon jet pack a break😂

[ggore]

I agree. If att had total hspa+ overlay instead of edge only areas att would beat out Verizon.

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But they don't, and it's gonna take until 2017 to completely happen.

[bsocko]

That is I have a Verizon phone in central Pennsylvania.

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[zephxiii]

You said in your previous post that AT&T and Verizon will be working on and completing VoLTE and LTE-Advanced at the same time. I'm saying Verizon will be done with all that LONG before AT&T really gets going. It's not really difficult to see what my point was, no need to twist it.

ATT has more reason to get LTE-A going than vzw...so i'm not sure why you are even making a point about them being behind on it. Also given the fact that AT&T is deploying LTE 850/1900 phones, that is a clear indicator that they are preparing for VoLTE since that will allow them to refarm 850/1900 towards LTE....obviously they can't do that if it HSPA is bearing all the voice call load.

[Antenna]

Half EDGE...in the boonies maybe (crop circle/desert/mountaintop/forest or roamer).
In California, there's very little EDGE left - a few remote locations, judging by the maps.

Places like Northern/Michigan and the UP / Wisconsin and rural Texas make up most of it.

I'm near Barstow and we have a lot of at&t EDGE still. Otherplaces 3G data is not functional. They have a long way to go before 2017

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