Came to conclusion T-Mobile has the worst record of updating higher end Android

**JMccovery** · 08-08-2012, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by jet1000

The My Touch 4G is a T-mobile branded phone. (not HTC). Tmobile should have made sure the upgrade occurred even if they had to pay a few bucks to make it happen. It's the right thing to do.

That doesn't make any sense. Even though it is a T-Mobile branded phone, HTC made it, and they have all the source codes for it. T-Mobile would have to assume not only the source codes, but would have to do far more testing on the update than what they usually do. HTC has no intention of updating the MT4GS, or they would've released an ICS update.

**cyberstoic** · 08-08-2012, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by jarrodpd

HTC phones are pretty bad though.... I was playing temple run on the Mytouch 4G slide which has a dual core processor and the UI in the background crashed and made the game lock up for a second then I fell off of the cliff I was pretty mad. While on my 3GS it never locks up like that if anything it will get slightly jumpy for a second which hasn't caused me to die, this is also on a phone that is 3 years old. It has improved slightly over the past three HTC phones I have owned, The first and second one use to crash over simple things like using the internet or opening the menu.

The sense version on the MT4G slide is the problem. It has been the problem all along. This phone should have been a screamer but the sense lags it up. It also causes the soft reboots (where it goes to the white screen with the green "my" on it). It was amazing how much better this thing ran just getting another launcher. I tried Go Launcher for a while, then adw which felt more like CWM, but setted on the Miui Home Launcher which makes it run and feel more like Miui. It runs a lot better with this. It is too bad there is not a real Miui rom I can load on it but the launcher is a big improvement as is.

**cyberstoic** · 08-08-2012, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by JMccovery

That doesn't make any sense. Even though it is a T-Mobile branded phone, HTC made it, and they have all the source codes for it. T-Mobile would have to assume not only the source codes, but would have to do far more testing on the update than what they usually do. HTC has no intention of updating the MT4GS, or they would've released an ICS update.

Exactly. There is no plan to update this device from HTC or T-Mo. The keyboard and camera drivers are proprietary and limited 3rd party rom development. I would buy another htc in the future, but I would never buy another t-mo branded phone again. That includes the Mytouch 4g slide and T-Mo Sidekick 4g which is quite possibly the worst phone I have ever seen (Shame on T-Mo and samsung for that one).

**Antenna** · 08-08-2012, 12:18 PM

I think *all* carriers are pretty bad about updating android phones. this is where apple has a leg up on android.

That said, I think T-mobile is no worse. 5 (htc sensation, amaze, one, GSG II, SGS III, Galaxy Note) of their phones are running ICS (no phone other than nexus has current jelly bean), which is far better than Verizon. AFAIK, only the Motorola Razr and GSGIII have it (Nexus doesn't count).

The OP is comparing older single core phones to other carriers, compare flagship phones within the last year and they are all running ICS

**Antenna** · 08-08-2012, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by JMccovery

That doesn't make any sense. Even though it is a T-Mobile branded phone, HTC made it, and they have all the source codes for it. T-Mobile would have to assume not only the source codes, but would have to do far more testing on the update than what they usually do. HTC has no intention of updating the MT4GS, or they would've released an ICS update.

I agree, and if T-Mobile "abandoned" certain phones because they are "cheap", what is AT&T's and Verizon's excuse? They charge a monthly service fee far greater than T-Mobile, yet phones like the Bionic, Droid 3/4, Atrix I/II, still run obsolete android ROMs. VZW and ATT should be faster at it, but instead they are so concerned about profit.

For example, the WiFi only motorola xoom already operates jeally bean, yet Verizon customers are still waiting for their update. Even though Verizon charges $50/1GB.....pathetic!

**aurora40** · 08-08-2012, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Antenna

For example, the WiFi only motorola xoom already operates jeally bean, yet Verizon customers are still waiting for their update. Even though Verizon charges $50/1GB.....pathetic!

That version of the Xoom is a developer device. It's sort of the "Nexus" of tablets (way before there actually was a Nexus tablet), and was the first Honeycomb device. So it's not exactly a fair comparison to carrier-branded devices.

It's easy to point to carrier/manufacturer failures to update devices. But what carrier or manufacturer is doing it better? Maybe it's harder or costlier than people think to update these devices?

**cyberstoic** · 08-08-2012, 01:49 PM

I think realistically, if you want updates you need to buy a nexus device or buy a flagship. The HTC One will very likely receive at least one OS update to Jelly Bean. The SIII will receive an update to Jelly Bean. Carrier branded phones (mytouch, sidekick) are very unlikely at this point to receive OS updates irregardless of how previous ones were (mytouch 3g that did receive them). Phones that sell very well will likely receive updates. In the case of my mytouch4g slide, it was a proprietary t-mo exclusive, never released anywhere but the US on t-mo and sold very poorly. That translates to no updates.

The problem in my world view is if the phone was not stable to begin with. When that happens you have to hope that you at least get stability updates. If the phone is stable the os update, while maybe desired, is less important. If the phone is not stable, updates of any kind seem paramount. Just my outlook, your mileage may vary.