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Forever Youngphone
Where did you get those numbers?Originally Posted by grafikal
HSPA+ goes to 21.1mbps down and 5.8mbps up before you start any kind of DC-HSPA+ settings (MIMO) and that can go to 128mbps down and higher (although it's unlikely to get a signal at 4x MIMO)
Nevermind Bell.. LTE is fine.
My screen is bigger than yours
Depends on what upgrades are done. The upgrade from HSPA to HSPA+ is not needed. I would like to see more towers going up, with bad or no signal HSPA+ means nothing. Currently I should be able to get 2Mbps consistently but I don't, because the signal is weak in many places & the network is congested.
My screen is bigger than yours
Just found it on the ol' interweb (wiki mostly). Dual-Cell and MIMO used simultaneously will actually get you 168Mbps down and 22Mbps up although they are completely pie in the sky theoretical peak limits. You probably have a better chance of flying by flapping your arms. Bell claims HSPA+ will get you 42Mbps and I do not believe they are using MIMO or DC-HSDPA. I could be wrong of course.
Phone Collector
woo hspa+.. (still on UMTS near my house..with 20kb upload speed lol)
Phone Collector
A company who can't even fully utilize the network they currently have in place... What good would it do even if they upgrade. They need to increase their speeds as well as work on densifying their network. Using LTE for 2mbps down is useless and waste
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I've climbed a cellphone tower
In the beginning it was throttled to a max of 3.6 then 2 then now I guess around just under 2.5.
Why yes, that is a bag phone
Make sense now. The capability of the network will be going up and the throttle will be going down. After being with the broken company for a year and counting, I think I may have figured out how they manage the network. It is kinda like how a bus operates on a busy route during rush hour. They try really hard to squeeze in that one last customer on the network. None of the promised upgrades is about improving performance. It is about accommodating more customers with about the same level of service that we have grown so accustomed to. Xtachx, have I got it right?
I've climbed a cellphone tower
It's also almost the end of the summer (to which that was the ETA for the upgrade) with no signs of info for the HSPA+ upgrade. I personally stopped listening to Mobi's claims since the "densification" scam that brought just a handful of towers in all 5 zones in all of 2011. I believe the densification, HSPA+ upgrade, and future expansion claims are largely just a way to buy time enough time to secure customers to eventually sell out. Also, Mobi is waiting till the absolute last second to possibly do good on those claims as we can see in that the zones are the same since they launched and clearly are over-selling the network.
The only thing Mobi's got going for it is price. If a customer is fine with the current coverage and isn't a heavy data user, Mobi's price is unbeatable.
Forever Youngphone
I still don't see anything about 56mbps.
I do believe it's a mix both.
My screen is bigger than yours
I believe these guys claimed the 56Mbps limit of for HSPA+ . No mention of MIMO or Dual-Cell.
My screen is bigger than yours
Would the network even survive the increased traffic, if people could consistently reach & maintain the throttled speed? I would love to see some network utilization stats for a 24hr period, would be very interesting I bet.
Mobilicity Mod
Either mobi operates on a very tight budget, or their model is basically of a discount carrier. They want to compete on price, and not data speed.
However, mobilicity ops will be able to answe the question about HSPA+ upgrade. All I knew was that it was coming "end summer".
Mobile Pro
Being a Mobilicity customer since April of this year, I think it is time for me to switch to another carrier, perhaps the Big 3, particularly Koodo. There are many places that promised improvements but never materialized.
I too expected a better expansion plan for Vancouver, but that never happened. I haven't seen a tower being built, posted on Stewart Lyon's twitter since the end of June for all 5 existing markets. Meaning that the expansion plan for the summer never really happened.
I really wonder if Mobilicity will lose the remaining 5 of the 10 AWS licenses they have bought for not fulfilling the implementation timeframe. That would be interesting to see... several millions of dollars wasted due to that. Either they break their promise and piss off their existing customers, or give up their spectrum in the other places they have bought. Both are equally as bad.
My screen is bigger than yours
Personally, what good is a network upgrade if they can't guarantee service in the first place? I've had complete service loss at home (and at work) now on several occasions over the past few months for as long as 45 minutes. This has been extremely frustrating when I use my cell phone as a means to get into my own building and can't call myself because there's no signal available.
I've been with Mobi now since October 2010 after leaving Telus (of which I'd used for 11 of the previous 13 years). I'd signed up on the original F&F and have the extra $2 credit on my account. While I realize that $37.55 for "unlimited" (slow) data, CONUS/Canada calling, texting, etc. is a "value," it has become less important to me. I have an old Telus contract that just ended in July and they've offered me the Student 50 plan (500 anytime minutes, unlimited EW 5pm, 10 Favourite National numbers, etc and 5GB/month). To me, if I can be guaranteed service and have access to LTE speeds, it might just be worth the extra $20/month.
Sorry to say that Mobilicity just isn't doing enough to hold on to existing customers that have been with them from the earlier days. I'm not saying that the Big 3 are better but at least their service is consistent. And the extra money is likely worth that.
I've climbed a cellphone tower
It's not unreasonable to assume that the lack of new sites in the last month and a half is due to the tasking of the Ericsson engineers with the HSPA+ network upgrade (and perhaps summer vacations). We'll know whether Mobi has been "doing enough" when that upgrade is announced as completed. There may have been disruptions resulting from the upgrade process, and HSPA+ enhances capacity as well as speed, so we just might see a marked improvement.
(no provider "guarantees service")
In the AWS/cellular context, TAFL is Industry Canada's list of all base stations in operation, as submitted by the spectrum licensee the month prior.
The underlying database is Industry Canada's Assignment and Licensing System (ALS)
A subset of the ALS is published monthly as the Technical and Administrative Frequency Lists (TAFL)
Real-time access to the AWS/cellular data of ALS is provided by Spectrum Direct's (SD) Geographical Area Search
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