Do you really need to start iTunes if you own an iPhone? I may get an iPhone in the future and wanted to know do I need to have iTunes on my PC in order to use it? I did have iTunes a few years ago but it took up a LOT of space on my PC.
Do you really need to start iTunes if you own an iPhone? I may get an iPhone in the future and wanted to know do I need to have iTunes on my PC in order to use it? I did have iTunes a few years ago but it took up a LOT of space on my PC.
If you get a new iPhone (or at least a used iphone with at least iOS 5.0) then nope, not at all. Backing up is way easier if you have itunes, (specifically the apps because even though iCloud will backup certain stuff on your iphone, if you have music, videos or apps that are no longer offered on the app store or itunes store, you lose them if you ever need to restore from backup, whereas if you have itunes and backup everything on your computer, then it doesn't matter whether it's on the store or not, you still have a copy so you keep it forever) but nope, you no longer require iTunes to use, start or update your iPhone anymore.
If you get a new iPhone (or at least a used iphone with at least iOS 5.0) then nope, not at all. Backing up is way easier if you have itunes, (specifically the apps because even though iCloud will backup certain stuff on your iphone, if you have music, videos or apps that are no longer offered on the app store or itunes store, you lose them if you ever need to restore from backup, whereas if you have itunes and backup everything on your computer, then it doesn't matter whether it's on the store or not, you still have a copy so you keep it forever) but nope, you no longer require iTunes to use, start or update your iPhone anymore.
iTunes is not a requirement for iPhone, but it is good to have it. In case, you forget the pass code of your iPhone and you can't bypass the lock screen, you need to reset the pass code. You need to launch iTunes to reset the pass code. Having iTunes is not only useful to backup stuffs like music, apps or videos; it is also useful for bypassing the lock screen on your iPhone. So i would suggest you to have iTunes if possible.
Activation of the newer iPhones require either iTunes or a connection to a Wi-Fi network. Even if you have iCloud backup activated, you can only restore if you reset the iPhone first. So items not stored on the iCloud server would be lost. Restoring and backups only occur via Wi-Fi with iCloud.
You can only do an official unlock through iTunes.
Score one for Android handsets with SD card support for backups that don't use your costly capped data allotment. That works for your personal media use, too; no cloud = no data used.
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As I stated, iCloud backups are done over Wi-Fi. Synchronizations of contacts, notes and bookmarks are done over the cellular data network and by Wi-Fi. You can choose or not choose to use the cellular data network for download of purchased content.
So, my farm is in the sticks. No cable = no WiFi. My cell is my only phone and my only internet. Then, I would have no way to do backups at home if I got an iPhone 5?
So, my farm is in the sticks. No cable = no WiFi. My cell is my only phone and my only internet. Then, I would have no way to do backups at home if I got an iPhone 5?
No, you can use a WiFi router with a DSL, 3G/4G, satellite, or even dial-up connection. If you wanted to cover a wide area with WiFi signal, you could buy several 802.11n routers, make one the main router, and set the rest up as repeaters. Alternatively, you could get a device like a MiFi or backup locally to iTunes on Mac or Windows.
iCloud lets you control what gets synced and what's backed up, so you can turn things off as you wish.
Without the computer being able to connect to the Apple servers through iTunes, you could not install operating system updates even if you have the files on your computer. The files have to be verified by Apple before they will install.
Without the computer being able to connect to the Apple servers through iTunes, you could not install operating system updates even if you have the files on your computer. The files have to be verified by Apple before they will install.
Fortunately, with iOS 5 and later the phone can update itself using its own Internet connection, and it can download delta updates (only the differences) to conserve data usage. If you don't want to use capped data for that, you can go to a public WiFi hotspot like a library, McDonalds, coffee shop, etc. Even in small towns, you can probably find something. WiFi finder
With Android I can purchase a handset with SD support and backup directly to removable offline storage.
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So, my farm is in the sticks. No cable = . . .
*no WiFi*.
*My cell is my only phone* (no DSL)
. . . and my only internet. Then, I would have no way to do backups . . .
*at home* (drive into town for backups?)
. . . if I got an iPhone 5?
So I could get a satellite connection just to backup my iPhone? Right.
All this because iPhone doesn't support SD cards for bsckups.
Even if I wanted an iPhone, which I don't, seems kinda impractical in my situation.
What exactly is your damage? You can do backups with cellular internet and I don't know hwo little you know about internet, but you don't need cable in order to have wifi. Wifi and internet are two different things: Internet comes to your house via ___________ (______ = Cable, telephone line, whatever) and wifi is the router connected TO whatever modem is in your house in order to make the internet accessable wirelessly. If you had no internet within 500 miles of your house you can still have a wifi network to connect all your devices together, you just can't access internet. And if you don't have internet coming to your house at all, why do you have a computer?
Second, are you completely unaware of USB? Seriously? A cable COMES with the phone. Jsut plug your phone into the computer and it's backed up. If your SD card in your phone died would you just kill yourself because there's no possible way to do anything unless it has an SD card? geez, calm the frick down.
No, as Howmander said the Internet connection and the WiFi connection are two separate things. You don't need cable (or any other type of Internet) to have WiFi, or vice versa. To have WiFi, all you need is a WiFi router (Linksys, Netgear, D-Link, Belkin, etc.). By connecting both the phone and the computer to the router, they would be able to talk to each other. You'd have your own little local network, independent of the Internet. You could choose to connect that local network to the internet by plugging a modem into the router, but you wouldn't have to. Simply put, the Internet is a network of networks but not all networks are hooked up to the Internet.
*My cell is my only phone* (no DSL)
DSL doesn't require landline phones or landline voice service. DSL is available as Internet-only service.
. . . and my only internet. Then, I would have no way to do backups . . .
No, you could still backup to your computer using either the included USB cable or using WiFi sync. Neither of those require an Internet connection.
*at home* (drive into town for backups?)
In the post you're now referring to, I was talking about installing OS updates, not making backups. I was replying to efparri's slightly off-topic tangent, not to you.
. . . if I got an iPhone 5?
I didn't say anything about the iPhone 5. I said iOS 5. The "5" in "iOS 5" is the version number of the operating system, not the hardware. When the upcoming iPhone 5 (or whatever they call it) comes out, it will run iOS 6. iOS is the operating system used by the iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch.
So I could get a satellite connection just to backup my iPhone? Right.
An Internet connection for your farm could be used to have Internet that's shared by both your phone and your computer (by connecting a modem to the router). That means a lot more usefulness than iPhone backups. Satellite was only one of four ways I mentioned.
All this because iPhone doesn't support SD cards for bsckups.
No. It's true that the iPhone doesn't support SD cards, but it doesn't have the problems you think it does.
Even if I wanted an iPhone, which I don't, seems kinda impractical in my situation.
If an iPhone isn't for you, that's fine. Consider, however, that you are likely misjudging the iPhone (on certain points) due to several incorrect understandings of technology (WiFi, Internet, networking, USB, iCloud, iOS [as opposed to the hardware it runs on], and perhaps other technologies not discussed in this thread).
For the record, I use both an Android phone and an iPod touch (closely related to the iPhone) and like them both for different reasons.
Originally Posted by Howmander
And if you don't have internet coming to your house at all, why do you have a computer?
A few years ago I lived in an apartment with no Internet for nine months. My laptop was less useful offline, but I could still do a lot that way. It was kind of nice to work without online distractions. Fortunately, I was walking distance from my university. Good post, Howmander. You hit the nail on the head.
A few years ago I lived in an apartment with no Internet for nine months. My laptop was less useful offline, but I could still do a lot that way. It was kind of nice to work without online distractions. Fortunately, I was walking distance from my university. Good post, Howmander. You hit the nail on the head.
I had an inexpensive Wi-Fi router and old computer that I set up a few years ago with no Internet, just as a sociology experiment and serve a promotion of a friend's art show. for a college class. The Wi-Fi network was named "FREEDOM". All URL addresses were diverted to web pages promoting the art show. There was a page for visitors to leave comments. The number of complaints were huge from people who only wanted to check their email and surf the net and that "this Wi-Fi is broken". It's amazing how people confuse Wi-Fi with Internet access.
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