Anyone not that excited, LTE iPhone?

[CA]

The reports have shown the iPhone5 battery to be the same size as the 4S...but now we are adding LTE and a larger screen....seems like it will be taking steps backwards with regards to battery life.

Oh-Boy, iPowerGate!

[zephxiii]

Thankfully we can trust in anantech to give us the full picture on battery life

[Sam73065]

I wish there was a +1,000,000 button.

One of the problems I have with the patent wars is when I hear that a company is trying to patent a handswipe or the touch of a screen w/the index finger(zero-length swipe). Sorry but I need a much clearer explanation of how a simple human gesture can be patented. I do believe in protecting intellectual property, but some of the things being alleged as having been patented, seem to be at first glance and cursory reading to be absurd. Even the embedding of a hyperlink in a sms being a patent infringement, seems absurd, unless they were stealing a particular method of embedding the hyperlink as opposed to just having embedded a hyperlink. Wasn't even one of the court battles in Germany over the shape of the phone, it being alleged that the one manufacturer's phone was too rounded around the edges w/too few buttons on the surface to differentiate it from the other company's product? I think the examples which I mention and have read about, contribute to the skepticism that so many of us have about the validity of these patent wars. It's not so much about devaluing intellectual property as it is about some of the seemingly absurd patents issued.

[newyork4me]

I would be more excited for the Verizon Wireless version of the iPhone 5 because of their LTE coverage.
If device is going to have all the hype then it has to be backed up with a strong network.
We all know what happened when the original iPhone was released for Cingular Wireless.

Exactly. Also, on AT&T, the LTE upgrade might not be that noticeable or a big deal in and of itself. For those of us on Verizon (or Sprint!), the promise of an LTE iPhone is like getting water after being stranded in the desert.

[milan03]

The reports have shown the iPhone5 battery to be the same size as the 4S...but now we are adding LTE and a larger screen....seems like it will be taking steps backwards with regards to battery life.

Have to keep in mind that we are shrinking SoC from 45nm to 32nm, and shrinking baseband chipset from 45nm to 28nm. Plus we are looking at the new battery chemistry with the Voltage being upped to 3.8V. Just the voltage bump alone should give us ~30% longer life plus the shrank chipsets plus the in-cell display technology. We're in good shape.
I'm willing to say that the life will be comparable or better to the iPhone 4, and I'm not talking about crappy iPhone 4S battery life.

[zephxiii]

Have to keep in mind that we are shrinking SoC from 45nm to 32nm, and shrinking baseband chipset from 45nm to 28nm. Plus we are looking at the new battery chemistry with the Voltage being upped to 3.8V. Just the voltage bump alone should give us ~30% longer life plus the shrank chipsets plus the in-cell display technology. We're in good shape.
I'm willing to say that the life will be comparable or better to the iPhone 4, and I'm not talking about crappy iPhone 4S battery life.

I am hoping comparable to the 4 in which I have been happy with....but we shall see.

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[3G Guy]

Have you used LTE? It brings wireless service to the point of wi-fi and high speed home connections. If you are happy with a pho-G (a renamed 3g+) system then that works for you. But i have an issue with those companies that publicly stated that only LTE was true 4G, then redefined it because they didnt get National 700Mhz licenses. Sure it will come for most; assuming they have the spectrum to do so. But many 1900
Mhz only areas (rural) dont have the bandwidth. I only wish every consumer would look at local licensing, and understand how it impacts their County.

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[ilvla2]

Have you used LTE? It brings wireless service to the point of wi-fi and high speed home connections.

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I have (where they have it in the Bay Area), and other than bragging rights, it's really not any better for 99% of the stuff than HSPA+ and WiFi. With the carrier's MEASLY bandwidth limits, it will NOT match broadband or WiFi. They can't seriously think it will even dent broadband with 5 GB or less limits. For areas without any broadband (Cable, DSL, WISP), it might be great, and we have several of those areas up here, but where you have broadband it would be silly to even consider LTE (which our area doesn't even have yet, from AT&T, VZ or USCC) over a home broadband connection. Between HSPA+ w/EB and WiFi, I do everything I need to, including streaming video and music, LTE will be a nice bump in speed, but it's definitely not a necessity, and most American's seem to agree (check the recent polls).

Back to Apple, I hope they FAIL, soon, before they patent the entire world as theirs, and we all have to start paying royalties to Cupertino for being iBorn, taking our every day iBreath's and pay to be iBuried. I miss the REAL Apple I grew up with in the 70s and 80s.

[johnhere]

Some days my AT&T 3.5g rivals my vz lte which is surprising so I'm def content with their 3.5g

[ilvla2]

Some days my AT&T 3.5g rivals my vz lte which is surprising so I'm def content with their 3.5g

I think most are as well, at least the studies and polls seem to point that way.

"Who needs faster wireless networks? Nearly half of US consumers say they don't. A new survey finds that nearly half of U.S. consumers feel they just do not need 4G LTE. "Colossal power!" "Scorching speed!" "Take your office across the map!" Promotional slogans about 4G LTE devices from carriers and phone vendors about fourth-generation (4G) Long Term Evolution (LTE) networks apparently are not working. The survey from investment firm Piper Jaffray polled 3,000 individuals, results of which were released in a research note this week by analyst Christopher Larsen.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-08-americans-4g-lte.html#jCp"

http://phys.org/news/2012-08-americans-4g-lte.html

[zephxiii]

Some days my AT&T 3.5g rivals my vz lte which is surprising so I'm def content with their 3.5g

I have seen this too.....and that is just the nature of wireless. HSPA rocks out in rural Indiana so far that I have seen.

I would turn LTE off if it nets me better battery life!!

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[ilvla2]

I have seen this too.....and that is just the nature of wireless. HSPA rocks out in rural Indiana so far that I have seen.

I would turn LTE off if it nets me better battery life!!

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It does, so far LTE is a battery hog! I think eventually they'll get that figured out though, but for now it sucks battery big time. LTE is definitely the future, but as that study I linked to above shows, the carriers are doing a utter FAIL in convincing people they have to have it, and I do think the meager caps have some to do with it.

[johnhere]

Overall my lte experience with vz has been mediocre so far. My att phone(non lte) has been working flawlessly so I can wait for quite a while to get att lte.

[ilvla2]

We don't have LTE here yet from anybody, Verizon will definitely get it here later this year or early next year, U.S. Cellular will get it here next year and I believe AT&T will here next year (probably late 2013) too. T-Mobile and Metro PCS are still 2G here, so I don't know what their plans are. Sprint doesn't have service here.

[GSMinCT]

Oh but Samsung doesn't really wanna do that. They'd rather gain market share by copying and piggybacking for really a measly $1B penalty. Just think about Android OEM competition that has been destroyed by Samsung's piggybacking. It's such a dirty way of doing business.

It's not dirty, it's called competition. Apple's the one causing the problems now, suing companies left and right.