DEFRAUDED by SAMSUNG

[GeminiIII]

That link agrees with what I said, "[t]he U.K. case hinged on design similarities between the iPad and the Galaxy Tab series, specifically the Galaxy Tab 10.1's back and rounded corners."

buddy, i would read it again if i were you with a little more understanding. that's what apple was hoping for but didn't get. that's the reason why apple's claim was thrown out

[ceredon]

Are people ... so stupid these days, that seeing a companies logo on the phone doesn't clue them into the brand of the phone?

I asked a group of kids (they were 4-8 yrs old) which phone was which, by three simple images. (I mixed them up, and added images for the kids, of volume rockers, actual power buttons, etc. In all, of the 15 pictures I showed them, they guessed them all right!)

ALL of these kids were able to correctly guess which was which. So can you adults guess?

I suppose some people are. In one of the cases, when Samsung's lawyers were asked to identify an Apple vs a Samsing product from 10 feet away, they couldn't.

I think most people, even kids, are not so stupid as to think infringement or copying of a product has to include every single element. When you were in school, was it ok to plagiarize someone else's work so long as you changed the name or a couple pages at the beginning? Most people realize that would still be copying. Most.

[AllanVS]

I suppose some people are. In one of the cases, when Samsung's lawyers were asked to identify an Apple vs a Samsing product from 10 feet away, they couldn't.

I think most people, even kids, are not so stupid as to think infringement or copying of a product has to include every single element. When you were in school, was it ok to plagiarize someone else's work so long as you changed the name or a couple pages at the beginning? Most people realize that would still be copying. Most.

From 10 feet away, can you tell the difference between a Crayola Pencil Crayon and a Laurentian Pencil Crayon?
How about the difference between a an iPhone 4S and an iPhone 4?
How about the difference between a piece of chocolate, and a piece of faecal matter?

Apple stole the design from LG's Prada.
Apple stole the status bar from Android.
Apple stole the original GUI for their mac from Xerox.
Apple stole the phone icon from ... Palm.


Apple has a proven track record of theft.
My feelings on this case is this: US Supreme Court should do some digging into "Justice" Koh. I'm pretty sure you'll find 1) She owns a few Apple Shares or 2) Money deposited into her onshore or offshore accounts from "holding companies" that will prove to be Apple fronts.

[mandrsn1]

buddy, i would read it again if i were you with a little more understanding. that's what apple was hoping for but didn't get. that's the reason why apple's claim was thrown out

Right, but that was my exact point. The case didn't involve any technical patents only designs.

[IDEA_NXT]

Now that the verdict has come in and what evidence Samsung did not destroy has been made known, I feel defrauded by Samsung and Google.

If Samsung wins on appeal, would you feel defrauded by Apple?

I own three phones on the list Apple is seeking to ban.

You fear Apple is coming to sue you because you own these phones? You fear that the cops are going to lock you up for life because you own these phones?

I own both Samsung and Apple devices, and I based my decision that it is the device that best suite my needs for the specific purposes. I do not make my decisions on civil lawsuits.

Since Samsung was found to have withheld and destroyed evidence and continues to publicly deny stealing Apple's IP after over whelming evidence at trial, I don't trust Samsung and won't buy anything from them again.

Have you actually read court documents?

"In sum, the Court finds that Apple’s failure between August 2010 and April 2011 to issue any litigation hold notices or take other precautionary measures to ensure the preservation of evidence relevant to this litigation violated Apple’s duty to preserve."

"As a sanction for Apple’s spoliation of relevant evidence, Samsung requests that the Court grant adverse inference instructions against Apple “in the same manner and in the same language that it gives any such instruction with respect to Samsung.”"

Samsung could have apologized and admitted their mistake rather than continue to mislead the public.

If by your argument that Samsung would need would apologize after the first ruling, then by extension, Apple should also post on UK newspapers and website that Galaxy Tab is not a copy of iPad immediately. Did Apple do that that? No - they appealed. So why can't Samsung?

My question is this: In light of the verdict do Samsung customers have a right to return their phones to Samsung for a refund? I think their needs to be a class action lawsuit against Samsung on behalf of the customers Samsung cheated with stolen Apple tech.

Regarding "stolen Apple tech", remember: the major components inside the iPhone are supplied by Samsung.

I don't care for Google's behind the scenes assistance either so I think it might be time to try Apple.

Good luck with whatever products you go with.

[ceredon]

From 10 feet away, can you tell the difference between a Crayola Pencil Crayon and a Laurentian Pencil Crayon?
How about the difference between a an iPhone 4S and an iPhone 4?
How about the difference between a piece of chocolate, and a piece of faecal matter?

Pencil crayons, no but they might be too small. iPhone 4 and 4S? No, but they are essentially identical. You may have a point there.

An iPad against any preceding tablet? Yeah, easily from 10 feet.

Apple stole the design from LG's Prada.

You mean the Prada that was announced Dec 12, 2006? Apple may be great, but I don't think they could knock off a phone and have a fully featured demo ready to go in 3 weeks. You'll have to do better. What's next, you mention the F700? I can't believe people still mention either of those, when any copying claimed were so fully debunked years ago. Years.

Apple stole the status bar from Android.

I think you mean the notification bar, which Android borrowed from pre-existing utilities for JB iPhones.

Apple stole the original GUI for their mac from Xerox.

Sure. The Xerox whose cursor could only move vertically and horizontally but not diagonally, the Xerox that still promarily used a CLI, the Xerox that didn't have overlapping windows and didn't have dialogs. The Xerox that allowed Apple access to their research in exchange for a payment of 1 million Apple shares? That Xerox?

Apple stole the phone icon from ... Palm

Maybe, have a pic of their icon?

My feelings on this case is this: US Supreme Court should do some digging into "Justice" Koh. I'm pretty sure you'll find 1) She owns a few Apple Shares or 2) Money deposited into her onshore or offshore accounts from "holding companies" that will prove to be Apple fronts.

See, this is what blind, irrational hatred leads to. Ridiculous, unfounded, bizarre conspiracy theories.

I'll play your fun game. I think Samsung paid of both Koh and the jury, but they used counterfeit bills, which pissed them off. So, they were just asking for what they got. I am pretty sure if someone does some digging, they will find this easily. Makes as much sense as your 'theory'. More actually, given Samsung long history of copying everyone not just Apple.

[GeminiIII]

Apple has a proven track record of theft.

+10000
it's universally well known. it is legend in fact.

[ceredon]

buddy, i would read it again if i were you with a little more understanding. that's what apple was hoping for but didn't get. that's the reason why apple's claim was thrown out

Did you even read the quote you were responding too? What do you think he meant by 'hinged on'?

[ceredon]

+10000
it's universally well known. it is legend in fact.

Indeed. Myth might be a better word though.

[Tendenzi]

+10000
it's universally well known. it is legend in fact.

You're always good for a laugh. Do you publish your work elsewhere? Maybe a twitter account? Is @ticklemydroid taken?

Anyways, keep it up, your ignorance in the matters are quite humouring.

[Tendenzi]

Indeed. Myth might be a better word though.

He's confused, it's opposite day every day for him. Samsung innovated before Apple by copying after them. Regardless of what people think Apple did to get to the iPhone, they can't seem to support how crappy the landscape was until after OEM's had someone to immitate. (Which is kind of funny)...

IMO:
Damn even Google had to tell Samsung to stop copying Apple, but the 'droidsung fanboy can't seem to get around that either.

Apple pays to "copy". In that case, it's not copying at all, but rather a tutorial, class, or seminar at that point. Like with XEROX Parc, they gladly allowed Apple to come in, answer their questions, and provide them in depth details that lead to Mac OS, after Apple paid them.

The difference with Samsung (which is their business for decades) is they recognize popular trends in electronics made by other innovators, immitate the trend, and sell it for cheap by their shoddy Samsung standard... so the masses can also enjoy the innovation others created. The sad thing is, no one sees how damaging this is. Samsung thinks it's doing this for the consumer.. by providing choice. Ironically, they've diminished choices by nearly killing off HTC, Motorola (which is already dead), LG and other Android OEM's by ripping off Apple and providing only 1 real choice for android users.

The whole debacle is entertaining and funny.

[michko]

Now that the verdict has come in and what evidence Samsung did not destroy has been made known, I feel defrauded by Samsung and Google. I own three phones on the list Apple is seeking to ban. Since Samsung was found to have withheld and destroyed evidence and continues to publicly deny stealing Apple's IP after over whelming evidence at trial, I don't trust Samsung and won't buy anything from them again.
Samsung could have apologized and admitted their mistake rather than continue to mislead the public. My question is this: In light of the verdict do Samsung customers have a right to return their phones to Samsung for a refund? I think their needs to be a class action lawsuit against Samsung on behalf of the customers Samsung cheated with stolen Apple tech.
I don't care for Google's behind the scenes assistance either so I think it might be time to try Apple.

Sincerely,

Jim

Wow.... Let me guess when you bought your Samsung you thought you were buying an iPhone?

This is by far the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

[GeminiIII]

for the 2nd time....

Did you even read the quote you were responding too? What do you think he meant by 'hinged on'?

this is the paragraph

Apple has been fighting patent and design lawsuits against Samsung in courts across the world. The U.K. case hinged on design similarities between the iPad and the Galaxy Tab series, specifically the Galaxy Tab 10.1's back and rounded corners.

hinged = depended upon. it meant that apples case depended on those similarities being true(ie apple's case was that there are design similarities). BUT APPLE LOST. sheesh! it's not rocket science lol

[ceredon]

for the 2nd time....






this is the paragraph



hinged = depended upon. it meant that apples case depended on those similarities being true(ie apple's case was that there are design similarities). BUT APPLE LOST. sheesh! it's not rocket science lol

Exactly. The case hinged on, depended on, was all about the design. That's exactly what he said. He made no claims whether it was successful or if the claims were valid. He said hinged on, as in that's what the case was about as opposed to being about technological issues.

You're right it isn't rocket science. It's basic English. To be honest I can't believe you still don't see it. Incredible.

[GeminiIII]

It's basic English.

and you would know about that.

try again