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    Samsung Note 2 on Mobilicity...Why will it work?

    I've been trying to find an answer to this.
    From online specs I see Note 2 only supports:

    3G UMTS/HSDPA – 850, 900, 1,900, 2,100 MHz for both N7100 and N7105(LTE)

    and I understand Mobilicity runs on 3G 1700 Mhz.

    Theoretically the phone won't even work, because their frequency bands are incompatible. However this is clearly not the case since Mobilicity is selling these phones... Why would they sell a phone that doesn't work?

    Could someone please kindly explain to me why Note 2 will work on a carrier that uses a frequency its not supported?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwwater View Post
    I've been trying to find an answer to this.
    From online specs I see Note 2 only supports:

    3G UMTS/HSDPA – 850, 900, 1,900, 2,100 MHz for both N7100 and N7105(LTE)

    and I understand Mobilicity runs on 3G 1700 Mhz.

    Theoretically the phone won't even work, because their frequency bands are incompatible. However this is clearly not the case since Mobilicity is selling these phones... Why would they sell a phone that doesn't work?

    Could someone please kindly explain to me why Note 2 will work on a carrier that uses a frequency its not supported?
    i believe theres gonna be 3 versions of the note, one thats gsm for the big 3, one with aws for wind, mobilicty, videotron, and one that is cdma.

    4 years later.... still no improvement to winds data
    The pain i endure to support competition.

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    Where are you getting your info from? The Note 2 will have the aws band aka umts/wcdma 1700/2100, which is what Mobilicity works on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobilicity604 View Post
    Where are you getting your info from? The Note 2 will have the aws band aka umts/wcdma 1700/2100, which is what Mobilicity works on.
    GSMarena, wikipedia... I was gonna post links but was blocked.

    I do not see any 1700 for GSM.

    Where do you get your info?

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    Note had a different version for tmobile. Note 2 will have the same. The one which will work with Tmobile will be available for Mobilicity and Wind. So no sweat. It will come with the correct band.

    Line 1: Wind50 for $45/M
    Line 2: Wish40 for $35/M
    Line 3: Wish40 for $35/M
    Line 4: Wish40 for $35/M

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    T-Mobile's version is probably what you want. FCC info shows AWS, 850 and 1900 for HSPA plus AWS and 700mhz (AT&T band) for LTE. So at this point it'll work on nearly all Canadian networks at full speed with some future proofing with 700mhz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wwwater View Post
    GSMarena, wikipedia... I was gonna post links but was blocked.

    I do not see any 1700 for GSM.

    Where do you get your info?

    From Mobilicity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwwater View Post
    GSMarena, wikipedia... I was gonna post links but was blocked.

    I do not see any 1700 for GSM.

    Where do you get your info?
    http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gala...n7100-4854.php

    4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100 - N7105

    I guess you must have missed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobilicity604 View Post
    http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gala...n7100-4854.php

    4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100 - N7105

    I guess you must have missed it.
    That's LTE and won't be compatible with Mobilicity. The mistake he made was to rely on gas arena info. They are often incomplete and do not list all model available and sometimes lists phones that never make the light of day.

    Not even sure why this compatibility question is being raised when T-Mobile, WIND and Mobilciity are all saying they are releasing the phone. So there's obviously a compatible version. And the FCC info has already been released and it confirms band IV for HSPA and LTE.

    http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mob...ofed-with-lte/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobilicity604 View Post
    4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100 - N7105

    I guess you must have missed it.

    Thanks for the link. Yes I did see this, but that frequency is used for 4G, not 3G. Mobilicity still runs on 3G network so that's why I'm confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwwater View Post
    I've been trying to find an answer to this.
    From online specs I see Note 2 only supports:

    3G UMTS/HSDPA – 850, 900, 1,900, 2,100 MHz for both N7100 and N7105(LTE)

    and I understand Mobilicity runs on 3G 1700 Mhz.

    Theoretically the phone won't even work, because their frequency bands are incompatible. However this is clearly not the case since Mobilicity is selling these phones... Why would they sell a phone that doesn't work?

    Could someone please kindly explain to me why Note 2 will work on a carrier that uses a frequency its not supported?

    There are 4 versions of Note:

    1. International (+LTE): SGH-7100 / SGH -7105
    2. SGH-i317 : ATT+(Rogers+Bell + Telus): HSPA 850/900/1900/2100, LTE: 700/850/1700/1900 (Not sure if Telus version is this one, I will confirm)
    3. SCH-i605 : CDMA + LTE 700
    4. SGH-T889 : T-Mobile+Mobilicity+Wind : HSPA: 850/900/1700/1900/2100, LTE: 700, 1700

    Source:
    317: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repor...7A3LSGHI317%27
    605:https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repor...=%27A3LSCHI605
    889:https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repor...7A3LSGHT889%27


    Yes, Mobilicity and Wind Mobile Note 2 *will* work on bellus LTE!!! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwwater View Post
    Thanks for the link. Yes I did see this, but that frequency is used for 4G, not 3G. Mobilicity still runs on 3G network so that's why I'm confused.
    Mobilicity's network is not 3G, it's 3.5G.

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    the 700MHz LTE is future proofing the phone (dependent upon what happens on the spectrum auction).

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkeeroo View Post
    the 700MHz LTE is future proofing the phone (dependent upon what happens on the spectrum auction).
    It won't matter. By the time the networks actually use the spectrum we will all have moved on to the note 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetipster99 View Post
    It won't matter. By the time the networks actually use the spectrum we will all have moved on to the note 3
    ...must be nice to be able to fork out cost for each iteration.

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