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    disabling 3g saves power because tdma is more power efficient than cdma
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    The word 'Pentaband' means '5 Bands', from the Greek word 'pente' meaning '5'. For a phone to be pentaband it has to support 5 bands. If the phone has AWS support, it doesn't automatically mean that it is pentaband.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droidhacker View Post
    I didn't say "when you're connected to", I said "when you shut down". Connecting to one does NOT shut down the other.
    So nothing automatic. Hence why I think it would be better if there were a nice checkbox.

    Quote Originally Posted by droidhacker View Post
    The option is there, just not as easily found... *#*#4636#*#* --> Phone information --> Set preferred network type (to WCDMA-only). Saves battery by actually shutting down the 2G parts.
    Which is fine for you and I, but for most people, a checkbox right under the "2G only" option is the only thing they'd be able to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Doros View Post
    Although I do appreciate the technical jargon being tossed around and the fact that I am learning a lot from this thread. Can someone just answer with a simple yes or no if this will work on both Wind and Rogers?

    I need to make sure I can make the switch when my contract is up.

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    the nexus 4 will work on every network except public and mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by droidhacker View Post
    Answer the questions:
    1) What frequencies and technology does robbers use?
    2) Is that technology and those frequencies listed in the devices specifications?

    If the answer to #2 is "yes", then it will work. If the answer is "no", then it will not work.

    Sorry to be a di.ck about it, but these are simple questions that you should be able to anticipate and answer yourself.
    I understand what your saying and I know that 1700 is available, but Wind states 1700AWS and the official specs on Google just say 1700. Made me wonder if there was a difference between the 2.

    I just didn't want to assume it would work because as we all know assumptions are the mother of all f*** ups.

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    Aws causes a lot of confusion, and manufacturers have been scrambling to avoid it, but they only make it worse. possibly why apple doesn't want to support it
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    Quote Originally Posted by droidhacker View Post
    I really dislike the use of only one of the two frequencies in the band pair being used to describe the frequency. Wind uses Band 4 "AWS", which is 1700 AND 2100, the former in the upstream direction, the latter downstream.

    Unfortunately, the device specs as written, imply 1700/2100 by just "1700". "1700" could also mean band 9 or band 10. Devices running band 9 are incompatible, however band 10 is a superset of band 4, so should be compatible. Similarly, "2100" as a single frequency of the pair, could imply band 1, band 4, or band 10.

    Correctly stated, this device supports band 1 (1900/2100), band 2 (1900/1900), band 4 (1700/2100), band 5 (850/850) and band 8 (900/900).
    That's why I stated 1700 and 2100. I guess I should have just used a slash instead. Or called it AWS which confuses people to no end. Probably best to call it Band IV.

    Thanks for explaining it to others. LOL. If your phone had no capability to receive 2100 MHz signals, you'd have no downstream capability...which again is why I said 17 AND 21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droidhacker View Post
    Correctly stated, this device supports band 1 (1900/2100), band 2 (1900/1900), band 4 (1700/2100), band 5 (850/850) and band 8 (900/900).
    Nope. Band I is 1950/2140, Band II is 1880/1960, Band 4 is 1730/2130, and band 5 is 840/880, and Band VIII is 900/940, if correctly stated with uplink and downlink frequencies at the mid-point of the range rounded to the nearest 10.

    If you want to be more sloppy, then you've got 1900/2100, 1800/1900, 1700/2100 for IMT, PCS and AWS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verkion View Post
    That's why I stated 1700 and 2100. I guess I should have just used a slash instead. Or called it AWS which confuses people to no end. Probably best to call it Band IV.

    Thanks for explaining it to others. LOL. If your phone had no capability to receive 2100 MHz signals, you'd have no downstream capability...which again is why I said 17 AND 21.
    No. 1700 = AWS, 2100 = IMT. Because both frequencies operate at a range, and AWS doesn't actually use 1700. MHz, nor 2100. MHz, nor does IMT use 2100. MHz.

    Band IX is only used in Japan, so it doesn't matter, as you don't need to worry about it as Japanese phones have their own unique frequencies and can't be taken elsewhere. Band X isn't used at all, so there's no confusion in using 1700.

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    verkion:
    Just ignore everything that "migo" is saying. He's just trolling, not actually contributing anything valuable or correct.

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    So when a phone only lists "1700/2100" by itself, does it have Band 1 or Band 4 or both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mGeek View Post
    So when a phone only lists "1700/2100" by itself, does it have Band 1 or Band 4 or both?
    THAT is the $500 question!!!
    If that is all you see, then there is NO WAY you can tell and MUST get clarification.

    However, if the phone is being sold by a carrier in North America, chances 99.9999% that it has AWS (Band 4) and may or may not have IMT. If you find the phone from somewhere in ASIA, it is probably Band 1 and 9. If it comes from anywhere else, its anyone's guess.

    Edit: Do NOT buy anything from alibaba.com that says "1700/2100". Not even if you email them for clarification and they give you an answer that kinda suggests/implies AWS. Note: I won't even offer the possibility that you'll get a concrete response, because you will NEVER get one -- that's a guarantee.

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    So there you have it. You're screwed if you rely on frequency numbers to represent bands. Always ask for band compatibility. "Band 4", there's only one whether that's WCDMA or LTE.

    On a side note, I've noticed when it comes to LTE, they've been pretty consistent in calling it just "1700".

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    Quote Originally Posted by droidhacker View Post
    verkion:
    Just ignore everything that "migo" is saying. He's just trolling, not actually contributing anything valuable or correct.
    No, you're just embarrassed that I showed you were wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mGeek View Post
    So when a phone only lists "1700/2100" by itself, does it have Band 1 or Band 4 or both?
    Clearly a phone that has 1700/2100 listed does not have just Band I. Beyond that, you can't tell because a bunch of idiots decided to start referring to AWS as 1700/2100 instead of referring to it properly as 1700. Incidentally, the 800 frequency range on CDMA phones is the exact same as the 850 frequency range on GSM phones. The GSM governing body picks a number that loosely relates to the frequencies that the band actually includes and uses that to refer to it. If everyone just stuck to it, there wouldn't be any problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mGeek View Post
    On a side note, I've noticed when it comes to LTE, they've been pretty consistent in calling it just "1700".
    Yep, because they realised how much of a mess they caused by calling AWS anything other than 1700 with UMTS.

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