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    Home Security without Landline

    I am trying to ditch my landline, but it is tied to my home security system. Does anyone have any suggestions for security companies with ways to connect without landline?

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    There's a website that supposedly can reprogram linksys pap2t boxes to work with alarms. I've read that turning on in band dtmf in generic VoIP boxes works as well but not reliable.
    Mourning the loss of my Nextel i325 but still using a bag phone.

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    Alarm force offers a system that has a cellular device attached to it for people that do not have a landline. The additional cost is only $5 more per month than their nornaml rate. My total bill is only 29.95 plus tax.

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    What about a dongle to plug in the phone jack on a Radio Shack/x10 system? All I need is something that would accept a sim or plug into the headphone jack of a flip phone and dial out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirayge View Post
    What about a dongle to plug in the phone jack on a Radio Shack/x10 system? All I need is something that would accept a sim or plug into the headphone jack of a flip phone and dial out.

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    To my understanding there was thread in the vzw forum about using the home phone connect with an alarm system but most alarm companies and vzw as well claimed it would not work since most alarm systems needed a higher quality signal than most cellualr devices could offer. Don't know if that's still the case or not but if you are paying for monitoring anyways then the additonal $5 or $6 that alarm force charges to provide the cellular equipment they use seems pretty reasonable to me. Seems like it just wouldn't be worth saving $60 a year to possibly not have my alarm system work when I really needed it to. Purchasing the cellular system straight from them gives me piece of mind that it will work when I need it to.

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    My home alarm has both landline and cellular. When it goes off, I get called twice because it notifies my alarm company over both.
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    Oh and I have Vintage as the company

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caligula View Post
    Oh and I have Vintage as the company
    I wasn't aware of them when I got my system installed. Are they a local provider ? How much is your service per month?

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    Quote Originally Posted by every1nosme View Post
    I wasn't aware of them when I got my system installed. Are they a local provider ? How much is your service per month?

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    I pay yearly about $420. I had originally gotten the service because because I had only a VOIP line, so they had only configured the cellular service. It uses AT&T GSM on my unit. Later, I got a landline through FIOS bundling anyway, so now it is connected to both cellular and landline. Cellular service was about $6 more per month. Vintage is regional I think; ADT was a joke, so I went with Vintage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by every1nosme View Post
    To my understanding there was thread in the vzw forum about using the home phone connect with an alarm system but most alarm companies and vzw as well claimed it would not work since most alarm systems needed a higher quality signal than most cellualr devices could offer.
    I forgot about that. Most home alarms send codes back to a monitoring service. The x10/Radio Shack devices are simply autodialers that call up to four numbers. They are not connected to a service.



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    So , if you are buying a new home you must install some security alarms for sure.
    A tip from me is to install some video cameras 24/7.

    I bought 3 security wireless cameras from and international seller.

    My advice for you is to buy some quality cameras. (min resolution 1200x600)

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    You can certainly do it using an ATA. I used to be a Rogers Cable Tech, and I have installed hundreds of Rogers Home Phone modems in houses with alarms. You need to bring 1 pair to the basement from where ever your, ATA is to a terminal block and then to your alarm systems specific pairs for the telephone line. It doesn't know that it is on VOIP as long as it has a dial tone. Please note that if you have a power outage, your alarms connection to the phone will be cut unlike POTS.

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    Some Internet connections or VoIP providers won't facilitate an ATA connection, usually due to poor latency or some frequency filter

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    If the provider was not SIP based maybe. Depending on the codecs supported, latency wouldn't make a difference in call quality (G.711 uses only 64 Kbits/second). And what does frequency have to do with anything? Last I checked digital telephony was 1's and 0's.

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