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    Tmobile ask phone makers to not support band 12?

    There is a rumor that tmobile ask phone makers to remove band 12 support.
    It's in the discussion area of this site

    This doesn't make sense. Why would a carrier want less support for its bands?

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    Tmobile ask phone makers to not support band 12?

    If the phone supports band 12, but does not support VoLTE, one might end up with data coverage but no voice coverage in some situations. It would be a confusing customer experience.

    Could be that. I am just guessing.
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    Yes this is exactly right and exactly why. Just happened with Motorola and the Moto E, used to support band 12 but with the recent Android update they removed it and they're giving people that are upset about that, refunds. It seems that the phone must successfully support t-mobile's voLTE in order to support band 12, because there are so many areas of the country where modern phones will only be getting a band 12 signal.

    Of course this is not from anything official that I know of, just piece together from various reports many of them here on howardforums. I believe the same thing has happened with other phones recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HansCT View Post
    Yes this is exactly right and exactly why. Just happened with Motorola and the Moto E, used to support band 12 but with the recent Android update they removed it and they're giving people that are upset about that, refunds. It seems that the phone must successfully support t-mobile's voLTE in order to support band 12, because there are so many areas of the country where modern phones will only be getting a band 12 signal.
    Thanks for the explanation. Now it makes a little more sense.

    Does this imply previously, when tmobile added a new LTE cell tower it also add a 2G/3G tower in the same area for voice calls. Whereas from now on, Tmobile will add towers for band 12 without adding towers for 2G/3G coverage?

    Does this also imply that all new phones that list LTE band 12 in their specs also supports tmobile's VoLTE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobar View Post
    Thanks for the explanation. Now it makes a little more sense.

    Does this imply previously, when tmobile added a new LTE cell tower it also add a 2G/3G tower in the same area for voice calls. Whereas from now on, Tmobile will add towers for band 12 without adding towers for 2G/3G coverage, and therefore the VoLTE requirement for band 12?

    And eventually, all towers will be LTE and all voice calls will be VoLTE so that 2G and 3G towers can be eliminated?
    Yes that last is in the cards for all the carriers. T Mobile doesn't have the capital to fully build out all bands in all the locations where it is expanding geographic coverage, so they need to make the most of their investment. They're going to have to get profits off those investments in the short term or they're going to be in a world of hurt.

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