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Thread: Update 2: Confirmed that iPhone 8/8+ and X works flawlessly on Freedom's Band 66 LTE (including 3G to LTE switches)

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    Update 2: Confirmed that iPhone 8/8+ and X works flawlessly on Freedom's Band 66 LTE (including 3G to LTE switches)

    So you Apple fans on Freedom should be happy!


    https://mobilesyrup.com/2017/09/06/s...ampaign=buffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pisidan View Post
    So you Apple fans on Freedom should be happy!
    A MobileSyrup headline, an analyst's prediction..
    I wouldn't get too excited yet. We'll know next Tuesday.

    New Apple devices will likely support Freedom’s Band 66 LTE, says Scotiabank analyst
    MobileSyrup Aug 6

    In a letter to clients, Scotiabank’s telecommunications analyst Jeff Fan predicted that Apple’s forthcoming iPhone line would support the carrier’s Band 66 LTE network, thus significantly bolstering its base of potential customers.

    “On September 12, Apple is expected to introduce a trio of new iPhones that will support Freedom’s LTE network,” reads the report.

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    Unless his prediction is based on an inside source it's just newsletter speculation, until Apple makes their announcement.

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    It doesn't take a lot of brains to realize that Apple may want to include new LTE bands in their new phones, as they've been doing for years. I'd say that it is more likely than not that they would include Band 66, all the latest flagships already do.

    TMobile has already rolled out Band 66, and they are currently rolling out 600 Mhz as well (The LG V30 supports 600 Mhz: https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-a...ile-600mhz.htm).

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    I won't be surprised if B66 makes Apple devices soon but permitting them to be an authorized Apple reseller is another story. Unless Freedom improves the network and coverage I doubt Apple would approve them in their current state.

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    I wonder if Freedom will have any of the new Nokia's coming anytime soon?
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    with T-Mobile in the USA, Apple will have to add the AWS-3 Band 66. Some states are running Band 66 on T-Mo.
    Public Mobile and Rogers

    Line 1 $32 - Iphone 7 Plus 128GB (with Referral Credits)
    Public Mobile
    Unlimited Calling - Ontario
    4GB a Month
    Unlimited Global Text

    Line 2 $50.00 - Iphone 7 128GB
    Rogers
    Unlimited Calling
    Unlimited LTE Data (20GB full speed)
    Unlimited Txt

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    ^ I really hope they do make it happen..my iPhone 6 is crying because of the 3G network.

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    We'll know for sure on Tuesday. I'm hedging my bet for the 8 no, but the 7S and 7S Plus is another story, but it could be no. Network has to be approved by Apple first of all. Second, Band 66 has to work flawlessly and without modification by users. If you have to modify an iPhone equipped Band 66 phone just to use LTE, Apple will not approve the network.

    Apparently the "analyst" didn't do his research. He says he believes. Guess what? I can say I believe I'm the Messiah, but it doesn't change anything. I'm not the Messiah, but you get the point.

    As far as this appearing, you would more than likely need an inside source to confirm this, until then it's pure speculation.

    As far as the word "likely" goes, it's an open interpretation. But on Tuesday, we will find out. I have an NFC issue on my iPhone that I might need replaced under warranty.

    But then again the "analyst" says "will support". Believes and "will support" are two different things altogether if you ask me.

    But wait until Tuesday. All shall be revealed. It would not surprise me either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt325i View Post
    I won't be surprised if B66 makes Apple devices soon but permitting them to be an authorized Apple reseller is another story. Unless Freedom improves the network and coverage I doubt Apple would approve them in their current state.
    If they do I'm not rushing out the door to get one thanks to our Android users pointing out a whole rash of issues. For that move, I have to thank our Android users. I'm going to wait until they get that spectrum they just purchased lit up first. If it's lit up in conjunction with Band 66, then I would consider switching out or trading in my 6S Plus. But it would be an extremely heavy consideration, much like purchasing a car. Band 66 on an iPhone has to work flawlessly. No issues whatsoever. Right now as the network stands it's no. And I don't use the data network long enough to even care.

    Then again this "analyst" hopes that older iPhones can just have Band 66 added. Not happening without the phone being recertified. If the phone doesn't have the band at the time of manufacture, forget it. No software or hardware modification will change that. People reading that will be mislead. While is it hoped, this "analyst" needs to spend more time breathing the toxic fumes of Toronto rather than sit behind a desk and make assumptions.
    Last edited by Driver8666; 09-11-2017 at 02:07 AM. Reason: Several edits.

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    At least we know the names of all 3 new iPhones. 8, 8+ and X. I guess 7s sounds like it's "behind" the S8.

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    For the iPhone X:

    Model A1865*
    FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 66)
    TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41)
    TD-SCDMA 1900 (F), 2000 (A)
    CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)
    UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
    GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

    Model A1901*
    Model A1901 does not support CDMA networks, such as those used by Verizon and Sprint.
    FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 66)
    TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41)
    UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
    GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

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    iPhone 8 is also compatible:

    Cellular and Wireless
    Model A1863*
    Model A1864*
    FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 66)
    TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41)
    TD-SCDMA 1900 (F), 2000 (A)
    CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)
    UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
    GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

    Model A1905*
    Model A1897*
    Models A1905 and A1897 do not support CDMA networks, such as those used by Verizon and Sprint.
    FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 66)
    TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41)
    UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
    GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
    All models
    802.11ac Wi‑Fi with MIMO
    Bluetooth 5.0 wireless technology
    NFC with reader mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by laxplayer19 View Post
    For the iPhone X:

    Model A1865*
    FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 66)
    TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41)
    TD-SCDMA 1900 (F), 2000 (A)
    CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)
    UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
    GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

    Model A1901*
    Model A1901 does not support CDMA networks, such as those used by Verizon and Sprint.
    FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 66)
    TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41)
    UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
    GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
    Well that answers that question, although we still don't know whether Freedom will be selling it directly, and if not whether the new iPhones will properly support Band 66 (unlike the OnePlus 5). Also it has been confirmed that the Apple Watch Series 3 does not support Band 66, although that is a bit moot considering that only Bell and Telus are supported Canadian carriers for the Apple Watch Series 3.

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    Bringing your own B66 device to Freedom now is quite risky. No guarantees it will work. You have to buy a device straight from Freedom unless you want to risk it. Hopefully it will change eventually but for now that is the chance you take with BYOD. Also NO WiFi calling support on BYOD. Doubt that will ever change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt325i View Post
    Bringing your own B66 device to Freedom now is quite risky. No guarantees it will work. You have to buy a device straight from Freedom unless you want to risk it. Hopefully it will change eventually but for now that is the chance you take with BYOD. Also NO WiFi calling support on BYOD. Doubt that will ever change.
    Freedom has just been literally told by Apple to get their **** together. With Band 66 now confirmed on the 8, 8 Plus and X, Freedom doesn't have much of a choice now do they? If someone does bring in a BYOD for Band 66 on Freedom's network, using one of these phones and it doesn't work, they will be hell to pay. Freedom can't afford to **** this up like the One Plus 5 incident, or any other BYOD that has Band 66.

    I did say iPhone users will have the ultimate say. I won't be replacing my phone just for this however. Nor am I rushing like a maniac to get one. If it was another Grand Theft Auto game, you can bet I'll be there at midnight. For this, someone has to actually get one and then hit up Band 66 on the network. We will then know.

    By the way, and I know you'll attack me, I said no for all 3. Guess I'm wrong. I'm also sure now that this has been announced, Freedom will no doubt be asked countless times if they get an iPhone will it work on Band 66, unlike the Freedom ready devices. They can't say no. Or maybe. The only answer they can say is "yes".

    They WILL be forced to change this, not only for iPhone users, but for our Android users that have to flash a different configuration file on their modems.

    I'm also not rushing out just to replace the 6S Plus that I have. If VoWiFi is to become a reality on Freedom, Apple can say "do this or no we will not certify your network". If we do see iPhone 8's and the X in Freedom stores, then that's a good indication, but far from actuality.
    Last edited by Driver8666; 09-12-2017 at 02:54 PM.

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