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    Quote Originally Posted by tfusr19 View Post
    If the bundled phones specifically say there are triple minutes, then I'd expect them to be triple minutes. They don't have to be TMFL to come bundled with 1200/1200/1200 or 1500/1500/1500.
    The only option for 3x 1200/365 is the Basic 400 minute 1 Year card tripled, just as the 1500/1500/1.5GB/365 is a SPO card.

    If the system recognizes 3x 1200 it is logical to assume the system is seeing a 400 minute card and tripling it.

    I purchased an e-Bay Rebel bundle 3x 1200/365 and the phone is TMFL. Now I see the same phone with a $25 SPO card, so is it now SPO?

    It is all FUBAR, if it was confusing before, TF has doubled down on that and I think TF has dug themselves a hole they are going to find hard climbing out of.
    Unlike many TF Inc. Subs in recent weeks and now months, TF Inc. not showing much love to their TF service customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfusr19 View Post
    Image hpham posted which illustrates SIM serial # difference:
    http://www.howardforums.com/attachme...hmentid=153827

    Notice the 348 in new smartphone-plan only SIM serial # vs 192 in old TMFL SIM.
    My AT&T triple minute SIMs all appear to start with 8901. The Verizon ones start with 8914. I don't see 192 anywhere.

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    We are specifically discussing CDMA SIMs and skipping the first 10 digits. Match up the images with the post to sync up with what digits we're comparing - see 192 and 348 in the image I linked?

    Quote Originally Posted by bobdevnul View Post
    My AT&T triple minute SIMs all appear to start with 8901. The Verizon ones start with 8914. I don't see 192 anywhere.
    Cheers!

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    Post a link to this Rebel with the $25 SP card please and a link to the one you purchased.

    They could sell a TMFL phone and bundle it with a SPO .

    Quote Originally Posted by ls61 View Post
    The only option for 3x 1200/365 is the Basic 400 minute 1 Year card tripled, just as the 1500/1500/1.5GB/365 is a SPO card.

    If the system recognizes 3x 1200 it is logical to assume the system is seeing a 400 minute card and tripling it.

    I purchased an e-Bay Rebel bundle 3x 1200/365 and the phone is TMFL. Now I see the same phone with a $25 SPO card, so is it now SPO?

    It is all FUBAR, if it was confusing before, TF has doubled down on that and I think TF has dug themselves a hole they are going to find hard climbing out of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfusr19 View Post
    We are specifically discussing CDMA SIMs and skipping the first 10 digits. Match up the images with the post to sync up with what digits we're comparing - see 192 and 348 in the image I linked?
    Ah, ok, mine are 178 on the nano SIMs and 187 on the mini/micros. These are mostly from the Fambly Dollar deal last year. They are definitely triples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfusr19 View Post
    If the bundled phones specifically say there are triple minutes, then I'd expect them to be triple minutes. They don't have to be TMFL to come bundled with 1200/1200/1200 or 1500/1500/1500.
    Wonder how they come up with 1200/1200/1200 with a smartphone plan only phone? There is no way to do that using the standard smartphone plan/card denominations. Custom to the shopping networks?

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    I'm sure they have infinite powers when it comes to bundles and automatically adding whatever combinations they want to offer ........ it's all in the software and not tripling of anything involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by loboheeler View Post
    Wonder how they come up with 1200/1200/1200 with a smartphone plan only phone? There is no way to do that using the standard smartphone plan/card denominations. Custom to the shopping networks?

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    The Rebel 2 is a Smartphone only plan phone that comes with 1200/1200/1200 365. So they can create a bundle to activate with whatever they want, most times corresponding to an airtime card.

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    Yes, the airtime they get from TF is not based on a physical card and can be customized. The 1200/1200/1200 smartphone only has the "look and feel" of the TMFL bundle airtime, and was confusing when I first saw it. The first few new phones had the 1500/1500/1500 which matches a smartphone only card denomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loboheeler View Post
    Yes, the airtime they get from TF is not based on a physical card and can be customized. The 1200/1200/1200 smartphone only has the "look and feel" of the TMFL bundle airtime, and was confusing when I first saw it. The first few new phones had the 1500/1500/1500 which matches a smartphone only card denomination.
    And they also have TF phones with 1350/1350/1350 that are TMFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfusr19 View Post
    Post a link to this Rebel with the $25 SP card please and a link to the one you purchased.

    They could sell a TMFL phone and bundle it with a SPO .
    TracFone LG Rebel + 1 Year of Service with 1200 MIN/1200 Text/1200MB
    HSN also offered this bundle after eBay sold out and it specifically mentioned TMFL in the description.

    TracFone LG Rebel + $25 60 Days of Service with 500 MIN/1000 Text/500MB

    I don't remember ever seeing a CDMA Rebel boxed as a SOP.


    Every recent phone bundle I have purchased, either 3x 1200 or 1350, has been a TMFL phone.

    To sell one Rebel as a TMFL and one as a SOP is why I say this is FUBAR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tracfancier View Post
    The Rebel 2 is a Smartphone only plan phone that comes with 1200/1200/1200 365. So they can create a bundle to activate with whatever they want, most times corresponding to an airtime card.
    Do you know for certain that this device is locked to SOP having been bundled with that service time?

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    Neither listing mentions TMFL or SPO, so as you said, this phone model has been sold as TMFL and I'd guess both listed phones are TMFL - but I don't think there's a way to be 100% sure. I don't think for any given model that some were sold as SPO and others were TMFL.. .. At least nothing comes to mind. TMFL phones can be used with basic or smartphone refills, so can't make any assumptions either way if a bundle is being sold with a SPO plan and they don't specify SPO or TMFL.

    Quote Originally Posted by ls61 View Post
    TracFone LG Rebel + 1 Year of Service with 1200 MIN/1200 Text/1200MB
    HSN also offered this bundle after eBay sold out and it specifically mentioned TMFL in the description.


    TracFone LG Rebel + $25 60 Days of Service with 500 MIN/1000 Text/500MB



    Do you know for certain that this device is locked to SOP having been bundled with that service time?

    I don't remember ever seeing a CDMA Rebel boxed as a SOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracfancier
    The Rebel 2 is a Smartphone only plan phone that comes with 1200/1200/1200 365. So they can create a bundle to activate with whatever they want, most times corresponding to an airtime card.
    Quote Originally Posted by ls61 View Post
    Do you know for certain that this device is locked to SOP having been bundled with that service time?
    That's what it says on the box cover of the Rebel 2 that I just got from HSN with a 1200/1200/1200 bundle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpham View Post
    That's what it says on the box cover of the Rebel 2 that I just got from HSN with a 1200/1200/1200 bundle.

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    The SOP phones won't bring up Basic Cards, right?

    Did you activate the bundle and see if you can access Basic Cards from your account? If it does does it show 3x?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls61 View Post
    The SOP phones won't bring up Basic Cards, right?

    Did you activate the bundle and see if you can access Basic Cards from your account? If it does does it show 3x?
    I did not test that when the Rebel 2 was active for a few days. I transferred service from the Rebel 2 to a BYOP GSM SIM on Tuesday.

    I think one of the forum members, tracfone69, is still using the Rebel 2 that he bought from HSN last week. You can ask him to test it.

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