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    Android for US use...but also works on 4G in the UK?

    Folks...I've got two lines on the 5+ but will soon be going to the United Kingdom. Does anyone around here have knowledge of a phone that can work on 4G both in the US and the UK? I'd like for it to be T-Mobile based, as they're my provider here. Over there, we may be on TMo or O2.

    And if this needs to go in another area, please someone tell me that as well!

    Any help at ALL will be more than appreciated!

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    Are you looking for high speed roaming using T-Mobile when in the UK?
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    Yes, and I can get that through Truphone or TMo. But my main concern now is a phone that's optimized for TMobile here, yet will still get 4G in the UK on O2 or another carrier.

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    Any of the better Android phones should have an adequate list of LTE bands. What's needed for T-Mobile in the US (as of today) are bands 2, 4 & 12 (5 is an optional nicety). UK will need mostly bands 1, 3 & 7. Bands 8 and 20 are nice to have. Everything else is gravy.
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    That will help a lot, and I appreciate it! Should anyone have a suggestion as to actual phone models, I'd appreciate that as well.

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    That will help a lot, and I appreciate it! Should anyone have a suggestion as to actual phone models, I'd appreciate that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Nassour View Post
    That will help a lot, and I appreciate it! Should anyone have a suggestion as to actual phone models, I'd appreciate that as well.
    Check out these phones.

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    Thanks very much...I was having a hard time sorting out the various bands and that search helps!

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    One phone, that didn't make the sort, that you might want to consider is the Moto G5+. I think the US version does not have band-20.

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    I've got the above mentioned Moto G5 +, aka "Motorola G, 5th Generation Plus".

    Because I had to go to Europe for two weeks, I switched from Cricket to T-Mobile instead of switching from Cricket to "regular" AT&T, as going to AT&T would have cost me close to $400 just for the two weeks of roaming.

    The phone worked all over in the UK on T-Mobile... or, technically, on its roaming partners. The only place I recall lacking coverage was in the shadow of "Downton Abbey". This experience was just 4 months ago.

    I don't recall if I was using 4G or something else, but while I had coverage, it was VERY SLOW for data. I paid for the cheaper option. If I go again, I will pay for the more expensive faster T-Mobile Euro option.

    Doctor: Phone Arena lists the Moto G5+ as having Band 20.

    https://www.phonearena.com/phones/Mo...oto-G5_id10421

    I prefer going to Phone Arena for the specs, because unlike GSM Arena, it doesn't arbitrarily exclude CDMA phones. Even though I don't prefer CDMA, I like the idea of a more complete comparison site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotABiot View Post
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    Doctor: Phone Arena lists the Moto G5+ as having Band 20.

    https://www.phonearena.com/phones/Mo...oto-G5_id10421

    I prefer going to Phone Arena for the specs, because unlike GSM Arena, it doesn't arbitrarily exclude CDMA phones. Even though I don't prefer CDMA, I like the idea of a more complete comparison site.
    One reason that phonearena is not my go-to site is that they tend to gloss over some details. Here are the specs from the Motorola website for the G5+:

    "bands (by model)
    Moto G Plus - XT1687
    CDMA (850, 850+,1900 MHz)
    GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
    UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
    4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41, 66)

    Band coverage varies by model, country, and carrier."

    The issue is that there are at least three versions of the G5+: US, Dual-SIM & Euro. The Euro model (XT1684) has band 20. The US model (XT1687) seems to not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRNewcomb View Post
    Any of the better Android phones should have an adequate list of LTE bands. What's needed for T-Mobile in the US (as of today) are bands 2, 4 & 12 (5 is an optional nicety). UK will need mostly bands 1, 3 & 7. Bands 8 and 20 are nice to have. Everything else is gravy.
    UK uses LTE on bands 3,7,20 (the phone must have them for optimal experience on LTE). Bands 1 and 38 are optional (you can ignore them for now). If you live in US but travel to UK (roaming), you, probably, can live without Band 20 in your phone (only few US phones support LTE Band 20).

    See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...orks_in_Europe

    For UK's 3G UMTS/HSDPA your phone must have Bands 1 2100 MHz and Band 8 900 MHz.

    For US (T-Mobile and AT&T):

    LTE bands: 2,4,12 (and 17 as subset of 12) - MUST. Bands 5, 66 and 30 are "nice to have" but you can live without them for now.
    Note: to use the phone on T-Mobile your phone must support VoLTE, without VoLTE you may have issues with reception and network coverage.
    3G/UMTS/HSDPA bands: 4 (T-Mobile), 5 (AT&T). Nice to have: Band 2

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    Moto G Plus - XT1687 Supported bands

    http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&...otorola_potter

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    According to this site, UK uses bands 1, 3, 7, 8, 20, 38 and one I can't quite identify. Not all bands are used by all carriers.

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    Unlocked US version of the Note 8, here are all the lte bands it supports, plus cdma.

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