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Thread: iPhones 8 and X Appear to Support Verizon's Gigabit LTE

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmccull View Post
    Sorry you didn't understand. I'll explain another way.

    When a Qualcomm iPhone 8 is on Freedom Band 66 and receives an incoming call, it switches to 3G. When the call is complete it is unable to switch back to Band 66 without being power-cycled. This behaviour is the same as Androids with the Qualcomm modem. The Intel iPhone 8 does not have this limitation.
    Really?? That makes band 66 pretty useless if true (actually worse than useless if it causes issues)! I sure hope I don't experience this issue. Power cycling your phone after a call to get LTE back - seriously?? Hopefully something a software update can fix.

    Do you have a source by chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkozlow3 View Post
    Really?? That makes band 66 pretty useless if true (actually worse than useless if it causes issues)! I sure hope I don't experience this issue. Power cycling your phone after a call to get LTE back - seriously?? Hopefully something a software update can fix.

    Do you have a source by chance?
    Might this problem be specific to Freedom? Has someone on another carrier observed this problem with 66?

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    Verizon does not still require 1X for voice as they now currently offer several phones that don't support 1X and are VoLTE only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenoWirelessGuru View Post
    Was it an iPhone 8 or 8 Plus? Apple could put a different antenna configuration in the Plus if they wanted to.


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    It is an 8+. I think the antenna configuration is the same across the lineups. WiFi speeds are pretty decent. I am able to pull about 400/400 symmetrical off my home fiber connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CircuitSwitched View Post
    It is an 8+. I think the antenna configuration is the same across the lineups. WiFi speeds are pretty decent. I am able to pull about 400/400 symmetrical off my home fiber connection.
    Thanks for the info. I was hoping the 8+ might have an upgraded antenna configuration, but it looks I’ll be holding out to see if the X’s antenna configuration is neutered as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RenoWirelessGuru View Post
    Thanks for the info. I was hoping the 8+ might have an upgraded antenna configuration, but it looks I’ll be holding out to see if the X’s antenna configuration is neutered as well.


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    It’s almost certain. They are advertising the same max. Theoretical speeds across the entire lineup. Also with them using the Intel modem for non-CDMA carriers, they won’t allow the CDMA version to be substantially faster.

    The iPhone 7 Qualcomm chip also was capable of 4X4 MIMO, 256QAM, and EVS, yet Apple disabled all those features to match the crappy Intel chip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sims View Post
    Verizon does not still require 1X for voice as they now currently offer several phones that don't support 1X and are VoLTE only.
    So in theory we could now use an AT&T/Intel variant of the iPhone 7 on Verizon, correct? Last year the Verizon SIM wouldn't register with the network on such a device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CircuitSwitched View Post
    The iPhone 7 Qualcomm chip also was capable of 4X4 MIMO, 256QAM, and EVS, yet Apple disabled all those features to match the crappy Intel chip.
    The iPhone 8 supports EVS. http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/...audio-over-lte

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    Quote Originally Posted by VVivian View Post
    Yes. My point though was that Apple purposely disabled a few major features last year because their other chip (Intel) did not support it.

    This year they are missing out on 4X4 MIMO while every other flagship device being launched is capable of it. Some much less expensive.

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    The point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawandorder View Post
    The point?
    That Apple is still a full generation behind other flagships in terms of cellular connectivity.

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    I think the biggest disappointment is lack of LAA support in the 8 or X. Most of the articles I found reference LAA being a huge part of getting gigabit speeds. One article referenced 20 MHz would come from cellular bands (ie band 4) and the remaining 60 MHz would come through LAA, however one other article referenced 3 20MHz blocks would come from cellular with the last 20 MHz through LAA. I’m assuming the deployment approach will be different in every market.

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    Apple could enable LAA in the latest Qualcomm iPhones with just a software update, and spin it as “Band 46” instead of as an unfair advantage. They already have hardware support.

    I can see the logic to leaving 4x4 MIMO off, since that’s a huge, everyday performance advantage, but Band 46 would be much easier to justify limiting to Verizon.

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    I was under the impression that although the Qualcomm chip is capable of it the antenna array in the phone is not so even a software update couldn’t enable LAA but I could be wrong.

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