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    Which iPhone 8/X is the "all-bands" version?

    It seems to change from release to release. For my 6S I think it was the AT&T model since it had Band 30, but I'm unclear what the recommendation is for the 8/X. Verizon? Sim-Free?

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    Use this link to see which iPhone model has the bands you want:

    https://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/
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    the ones from verizon/sprint would be the one to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by october262 View Post
    the ones from verizon/sprint would be the one to get.
    Or the SIM-Free version direct from Apple.
    I gave into temptation, and bought the iPhone X, even though I had a perfectly good, though oversized, 7+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randian View Post
    It seems to change from release to release. For my 6S I think it was the AT&T model since it had Band 30, but I'm unclear what the recommendation is for the 8/X. Verizon? Sim-Free?
    I'm assuming you're asking about LTE bands...

    A1906 (iPhone 8), A1898 (iPhone 8 Plus), and A1902 (iPhone X) support the most bands, but those models are only sold in Japan.

    The VZW/Sprint models (A1863/A1864/A1865) and the AT&T/T-Mobile/INTL models (A1905/A1897/A1901) all support the exact same bands.

    The Japanese models add support for bands 11, 21, and 42, which are only used in Japan, so unless you travel there, it doesn't matter which model you get, as long as it's unlocked.

    The band 30 discrepancy you're referring to only existed on iPhone 6S. Since then (iPhone 7, iPhone 8, iPhone X), all variants have supported band 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XFF View Post
    I'm assuming you're asking about LTE bands...

    The VZW/Sprint models (A1863/A1864/A1865) and the AT&T/T-Mobile/INTL models (A1905/A1897/A1901) all support the exact same bands.
    They support all the same LTE bands. But difference in whether support the 2G/3G "bands" of CDMA carriers.

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    Which iPhone 8/X is the "all-bands" version?

    Quote Originally Posted by kevink1 View Post
    They support all the same LTE bands. But difference in whether support the 2G/3G "bands" of CDMA carriers.
    I see that Verizon has some LTE only phones on their network now. I wonder if Verizon will ever let a non-CDMA 2000 iPhone on their network, since either would work fine on LTE.

    https://www.verizonwireless.com/basi.../lg-exalt-lte/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doolie View Post
    I see that Verizon has some LTE only phones on their network now. I wonder if Verizon will ever let a non-CDMA 2000 iPhone on their network, since either would work fine on LTE.

    https://www.verizonwireless.com/basi.../lg-exalt-lte/
    If you put your VZW SIM card into an unlocked AT&T or T-Mobile iPhone, why wouldn't it work? What could they do to stop you?

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    Which iPhone 8/X is the "all-bands" version?

    Quote Originally Posted by XFF View Post
    If you put your VZW SIM card into an unlocked AT&T or T-Mobile iPhone, why wouldn't it work? What could they do to stop you?
    Tried it. Got an error message, “Unable to activate at this time, please call us at this number...” Had to call them. Entered IMEI and “phone not supported model”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XFF View Post
    If you put your VZW SIM card into an unlocked AT&T or T-Mobile iPhone, why wouldn't it work? What could they do to stop you?
    They won't allow it. The AT&T and T-Mobile variant uses the Intel XMM 7480 modem which doesn't support CDMA. Unless using VoLTE, voice is carried over 1x.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frail View Post
    They won't allow it. The AT&T and T-Mobile variant uses the Intel XMM 7480 modem which doesn't support CDMA. Unless using VoLTE, voice is carried over 1x.
    Sure, but doesn't iPhone default to VoLTE anyway? Then what does it matter whether the phone also supports CDMA or not? Why would VZW care to actively block LTE-only phones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XFF View Post
    Sure, but doesn't iPhone default to VoLTE anyway? Then what does it matter whether the phone also supports CDMA or not? Why would VZW care to actively block LTE-only phones?
    I've seen reports elsewhere that the Verizon checker accepts the Intel iPhone 8/8+ as valid. I have no way of testing this myself.

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