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  1. #61
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    Originally posted by djnotepad
    i get charged for the 123 method and I have familytime with unlimted M2M. Well, to be exact I dont have a (F) next to it when I look on my bill on T-Mobile.com, but I am not 100% positive that it is being charged to my anytime minutes just yet. (untill I get my bill)
    If you have the family plan, it seems like you aren't billed mobile2mobile for voicemail calls. Like you said, there just isn't an (F) next to the 123.

    mobil - you should just experiment through trial and error to see which way would work, if any. It seems like your options are - 123, 1-805-MESSAGE, or the voicemail backdoor.
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    Originally posted by IsLand_BoY

    mobil - you should just experiment through trial and error to see which way would work, if any. It seems like your options are - 123, 1-805-MESSAGE, or the voicemail backdoor.
    OK tried out a few things out this weekend and here what is what I found:

    I am in upstate NY market (Rochester/Buffalo), Familytime Basic (400 whenever, U/L nights/wknds, free M2M, no T-Zones)

    Voicemail-
    -123 - free M2M, My T-Mo shows (F)
    -my cell number - again, free M2M, My T-mo shows (F)
    -88 calling from VM - free M2M - the call appears as a (F) call to my VM

    I'll have to try 805-MESSAGE later on....

    WAP Push- (Read a few threads and there wasn't a concrete answer, so here is what I found...)
    It also looks like that I am not being billed for WAP Push messages. I am assuming this because the WAP Push messages I recieved from using WAP AIM ( http://wimd.aol.com/?service=tmobile ) do NOT show up on my SMS messages usage. To reiterate, I do not subscribe to T-Zones.

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    Originally posted by mobil1
    WAP Push- (Read a few threads and there wasn't a concrete answer, so here is what I found...)
    It also looks like that I am not being billed for WAP Push messages. I am assuming this because the WAP Push messages I recieved from using WAP AIM ( http://wimd.aol.com/?service=tmobile ) do NOT show up on my SMS messages usage. To reiterate, I do not subscribe to T-Zones.
    what exactly is WAP push anyway? is it like text messages through WAP? Ive been using wimd.aol.com for quite a while and havent seen anything on my bill either and I don't have T-Zones

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    Re: Clarification of free GPRS internet data

    Originally posted by bjtwuk
    (2) If you have the $19.95 internet data service, then you can use any tcp/ip port.

    <snip>

    So, with the free GPRS internet data, these are basically the only tcp/ip ports that T-Mobile lets you use. You cannot access any other ports unless you pay $19.99 a month.
    Hmmmm. So if someone reassigned port 80 on his private system to, say, the VPN server deamon ........
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    Re: Clarification of free GPRS internet data

    Originally posted by bjtwuk
    Hey psteng19, when you say "please clarify that?" what would you like clarified?

    Do you want me to clarify what I mean by free? Do you want me to clarify what do I mean by only certain tcp/ip ports are open? Do you want me to explain how to set up your e715 (whatever that is) to utilize free GPRS?

    O.K. I guess since you won't tell me what it is that you want to know, then I am expected to answer all possible meanings:

    (1) When I said that you get free GPRS and do not need to pay $19.99 for Internet Data, I meant that T-Mobile actually has made it possible for you to get unlimited GPRS data for free. However, only the volume of data that you may send or receive is unlimited...but the services you may access have been limited.

    (2) If you have the $19.95 internet data service, then you can use any tcp/ip port. The internet uses a set of networking protocols called tcp/ip. Different applications use different ports. For example, when you send email, you use a protocol called Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (or SMTP). SMTP generally uses tcp/ip port #25. When you receive email you will either receive it using Post Office Protocol 3 (POP3) on port 110 or Internet Mail Access Protocol 4 (IMAP4) on port 143. When you view web pages using the Hyper Text Transfer Protocol (HTTP), then your computer uses port 80. When you enter the host name of a computer into your web browser, you cannot connect to it unless your computer translates that name to an ip address first. For example, the address of www.howardforums.com is 216.180.241.210. Your computer gets this address from a Domain Name Server (or DNS). DNS uses tcp/ip port 53.

    So, with the free GPRS internet data, these are basically the only tcp/ip ports that T-Mobile lets you use. You cannot access any other ports unless you pay $19.99 a month. For example, secure websites like your bank use the HTTPS protocol on port 443, but that port is blocked on free GPRS. The ports that Yahoo Instant Messenger and AOL Instant Messenger are also blocked. Telnet (port 23) is blocked. FTP on ports 20 & 21 are blocked.

    For a complete list of internet port numbers please see this website: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers

    (3) To configure your phone to access the free GPRS, you configure it exactly the same as you would for the pay GPRS except for one setting. For pay GPRS, you set your APN to: internet2.voicestream.com and for the free GPRS, you set your APN to wap.voicestream.com

    That's all there is to it. I hope that it is now CLARIFIED!

    Bryan
    Other than the APN what do the other settings need to be? I jsut tried calling customer service and they told me that is was for the phone only. Is there a way I can setup my Samsung X105 w/ data cable to use the GPRS network with out buying the $19.95 plan. Sorry if this sounds dumb.. but I've been trying it and I've read every post I could find on the subject but it still won't work, and I am unsure of the settings.
    >>>Charger71

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    Reply to Charger71

    Hey Charger71, I do not know the details of your Samsung X105 telephone. So, you may have to consult your owners manual for details. However, I have posted the complete instructions on how to use a bluetooth capable Sony Ericsson T610 with Macintosh OS X 10.3 (Panther) in this thread:

    How to use Sony Ericsson T610 as a modem with Mac OS X 10.3 Panther

    You ought to be able to figure out from that what other settings besides APN need to be set on your phone.

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    So this does work then.. CS told me it would not...

    Thanks for the help. I will check out that thread and try it.. Thanks!!!

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    CS's often lie or don't know.

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    yeah they lied I got it working.. thanks all for the help and the point in the right direction...


    THANKS!!!

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    I apologise in advance for my kinda off topic reply..


    WOW.... even though the plans in the US are so much cheaper than in the UK they are far more complicated...

    ok... i (am supposed to*)pay about $35 ish (£21UK) a month for 100 minutes any time any network (that includes all cellphones and normal phones in the UK) and i always get (and always have) FREE voicemail.. and i have to pay my wap by the kilobyte all the time.. none of this 3 day weekend malarky... etc etc... its just 100 minutes and thats it!

    so.. we might get the poorer end of the deal, because we pay more for less minutes..


    (* i actually pay half that because i'm retail staff and one of our sister companies only sells cellphones)

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