VM K7 Rave WAP access

[southpark_dude]

Ok (I am a newby sorry) from what I have read on this forum it looks impossible to change your homepage from the phone and access a outside network (virgin extras suck). So here is my theroy on how it might work:

So what if I setup a WAP on my computer and setup a redirect that when the virgin mobile extras page was requested it would instead connnect me to a site of my choosing (ie googles etc.)?

Anyone out there think this might work? I have been lurking on this forum for a few days and from what I have seen this is probley the only way without hacking the phone and getting a datacable.

[snafu]

Wirelessly posted (SublimeFan: SE47/1.0.00 UP.Browser/4.1.26l UP.Link/5.0.2.9)

doing that would make all virgin users in to the site you set . The would find out very quickly

[southpark_dude]

Let me clarify:

By redirect I ment a local redirect ethier using my computers HOSTS file or my DNS server. Then the WAP would request the IP of the virgin extras site and my computers host file would answer before it asked one of the main DNS server with the site I want.

BTW I am screwing around with this idea right now. Trying to find a good WAP server.

[snafu]

ohhhh... I thought you were saying something completely different...

[Ntell~Nside]

What ever happened to the guy who posted this. It would be coolif we could use this technique.

[clear617]

The technique he described will likely never work assuming I understand correctly.

It would require one to change the IP address of the WAP gateway to something other than the default of 208.18.146.75 or 208.18.146.139. Although these settings can be changed in the phone, Virgin Mobile seems to be blocking all IP addresses other than their own gateways.

[vermontcellboy]

Not Exactly. PM me, I'm really interested in what your saying.
When you connect...it does Connect to the Non-Virgin IP...but it doesn't take you anywhere further due to your homepage being set to VirginXTras. So it will connect to non-Virgin IPs. Let me give you an example of what I mean.
Virgin's XTras are closed, so they only can be accessed from Virgin's Gateway
D E F A U L T C O N N E C T I O N
You > > Virgin Gateway > > Virgin X Tras | OTHER GATEWAYS
(Other gateways are closed off)
What the Rave requests when you change gateways
You > > Other Gateway > > | Virgin X Tras.
That's why it says "Sending..." and then dies after "Sending" and not after connecting.
This user may be onto something.
-AG

[clear617]

I see what you're saying. I suppose it all depends on what "sending..." and "connecting..." really mean. I was under the impression that "connecting..." meant the phone was just establishing a connection with the cell towers, and sending meant it was sending data to the WAP gateway.

Of course, there is one way to check this for sure:

One of the users with an old Slider (that can use the free WAP trick) should change their WAP gateway to something other than virgin's. They are able to bypass the default homepage and go straight to the URL of their choice. Thus, if they can get their phones to work with another WAP gateway, we know there's potential.

[vermontcellboy]

It is my theory that Connecting is Connecting to the IP..because when Waptunnel was down, Connecting failed if I remember correctly (when my IP was set to Waptunnel's) and Sending always fails because as explained above.
I think Steve, (Is that VMVirginMobile's name) has an old Slider that he could use to test it out. I'm sure he'll see this thread and try that out.. I have Gateway IP's anyone who's testing can use.

[Followurpath17]

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Why cant we simply change our ip to another gateway. I doubt the ability to change it (and still connect) is impossible bcause we can access sites with their own ip addres. I have tried this b4 but h got 'scheme' or sumthin like that.although there could b a block, if there was, we wouldnt b able to access this very site! This could b the newest discovered benifit of our 'vulnurable' (however u spell that!) phones.

[C-money]

Originally posted by clear617
I see what you're saying. I suppose it all depends on what "sending..." and "connecting..." really mean. I was under the impression that "connecting..." meant the phone was just establishing a connection with the cell towers, and sending meant it was sending data to the WAP gateway.

Of course, there is one way to check this for sure:

One of the users with an old Slider (that can use the free WAP trick) should change their WAP gateway to something other than virgin's. They are able to bypass the default homepage and go straight to the URL of their choice. Thus, if they can get their phones to work with another WAP gateway, we know there's potential.

i have been using the waptunnel gateway for a while now any others you want me to try

[clear617]

Do me a favor and visit the site http://pisces.mit.edu/ on your phone. It will give you an error, but that doesn't matter. I just want to see what shows up in the logs of the server so I can tell for sure what gateway you are coming from.

Once you've done this let me know the exact time you did it so I can find it in my logs. Thanks.

[C-money]

Wirelessly posted (SE47/1.0.00 UP.Browser/4.1.26l UP.Link/5.0.2.9)

I did it at 1024 central time i remember some thing saying they could be reset so if they are virgin ips give me other one's to try

[C-money]

Wirelessly posted (SE47/1.0.00 UP.Browser/4.1.26l UP.Link/5.0.2.9)

I did it at 1024 central time i remember some thing saying they could be reset so if they are virgin ips give me other one's to try

[clear617]

Yup, I got your two visits at 11:22pm and 11:23pm EST:

208.18.146.72 - - [03/Mar/2004:23:22:32 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 302 261 "-" "SE47/1.0.00 UP.Browser/4.1.26l UP.Link/5.0.2.9"
208.18.146.141 - - [03/Mar/2004:23:23:33 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 302 261 "-" "SE47/1.0.00 UP.Browser/4.1.26l UP.Link/5.0.2.9"

So, yes, those are the Virgin IPs you're coming from. I think waptunnel is down right now (and has been for the past several days) so you can't really try them. I don't know of any others to try at the moment.