Question 4 cingular people

[AdmiralAK]

Cingular is multinetwork (GSM, CDMA and TDMA).
I know that all american companies say "you can text message another xxx customer" (xxx being that company).

I know that in veriszon, AT&T, fido, and voicestream markets this is easy because all phones of a particular service are using the same technology (whether it is GSM, TDMA or CDMA), but cingular is a mixed bag since it is essentially the merger of lots of smaller companies.

So my question is this...can a user in a GSM market SMS one in a TDMA or CDMA and vice versa??? If so how is this possible? And if it can be done by cingular does that mean that a cingular customer that uses a TDMA phone can SMS me on my voicestream phone ?


Admiral

[Her.ph]

Well for those wanting a larger universe of receivers for short
text messages (well, you in the U.S.) try the following from your text-enabled mobile phone (most Nokia phones, some Ericsson &
Motorola):

When composing a message (Write Message) using a phone-to-email gateway:

m@her.ph <10-digit-ph-num><alpha-code> <your message>

10-digit-ph-num: a valid U.S. phone number without dashes, spaces or other punctiation
alpha-code: must be last character (11 total) with the phone number. Choices are:

• A AT&T
  C Cingular
  M (my)Verizon
  N Nextel
  B PacBell
  S Sprint
  V Voicestream

Your-message: Anything you want to say.

Example:

m@her.ph 3125551212c Hey, how is your Cingular phone working out?

Note, your messages will all appear as though from 1234567890@her.ph, wherein the 1234567890 is your own phone number (easy if the want to call you back). If your phone is served by VoiceStream you will send the message to 500

[Telekom]

Originally posted by Her.ph
Well for those wanting a larger universe of receivers for short
text messages (well, you in the U.S.) try the following from your text-enabled mobile phone (most Nokia phones, some Ericsson &
Motorola):

When composing a message (Write Message) using a phone-to-email gateway:

m@her.ph <10-digit-ph-num><alpha-code> <your message>

10-digit-ph-num: a valid U.S. phone number without dashes, spaces or other punctiation
alpha-code: must be last character (11 total) with the phone number. Choices are:

• A AT&T
  C Cingular
  M (my)Verizon
  N Nextel
  B PacBell
  S Sprint
  V Voicestream

Your-message: Anything you want to say.

Example:

m@her.ph 3125551212c Hey, how is your Cingular phone working out?

Note, your messages will all appear as though from 1234567890@her.ph, wherein the 1234567890 is your own phone number (easy if the want to call you back). If your phone is served by VoiceStream you will send the message to 500

Also note that you must use the +12063130004 SMSC to send the message. If you use another such as the Ptel +13343338200 your message will not be sent (or at least that's my experience.) Also interesting that when I sent myself a test message it said towards the top of the message "bad domain" (it didn't say stand in the corner )

[yummi369]

wat the hell is a SMSC # or wat is it used for i see them everywhere but have no idea wat they are

[Telekom]

Originally posted by yummi369
wat the hell is a SMSC # or wat is it used for i see them everywhere but have no idea wat they are

Easy there! Settle down!! You need an SMSC if you want to send any sort of message either phone to phone or an email message from your phone. The SMSC handles the message and sends it to where it's supposed to go (theoretically) and also reports back to the carrier that you accessed the message center so you can be billed accordingly.

[AdmiralAK]

he he...
so this answers the question
Only by email

Admiral

[nokia4life]

Actually, I got an email from someone who's in New Orleans and she said that she uses Cingular as well. Now I am in Los Angeles, CA and I tried texting her and she gets mine and i get hers.

But I made sure to ask her if she had a chip on her phone and she said no. So that means she's using either a TDMA or CDMA phone and I'm using a GSM phone but we are able to text each other. Does that only work because we have the same carrier even if its a different phone (GSM to TDMA/CDMA)?

That's my experience in this topic.



nokia4life

[ajperez]

Originally posted by nokia4life
But I made sure to ask her if she had a chip on her phone and she said no. So that means she's using either a TDMA or CDMA phone and I'm using a GSM phone but we are able to text each other. Does that only work because we have the same carrier even if its a different phone (GSM to TDMA/CDMA)?

That's my experience in this topic.



nokia4life

Cingular in New Orleans is TDMA.

[ValentinaDeb]

If it is working without using the email-address-in-the-SMS trick, then Cingular definitely has created a workaround to make it appear seamless. However, I'm sure it took some creativity to make that happen.

Good to know!

[Telekom]

Originally posted by nokia4life
Actually, I got an email from someone who's in New Orleans and she said that she uses Cingular as well. Now I am in Los Angeles, CA and I tried texting her and she gets mine and i get hers.

But I made sure to ask her if she had a chip on her phone and she said no. So that means she's using either a TDMA or CDMA phone and I'm using a GSM phone but we are able to text each other. Does that only work because we have the same carrier even if its a different phone (GSM to TDMA/CDMA)?

That's my experience in this topic.



nokia4life

But did you send text messages by sending email or using a phone number? If it was email then that's not so much of a problem and any phone that is email capable can 'talk' to other phones as long as their phones have an email address.

[nokia4life]

I just sent her a straight out text message and not an email....and she got it and even responded back to me. but then again, we are talking about the same carrier which is Cingular.


nokia4life

[jlrichards]

For reference:

If you use the old Ptel SMSC to attempt to send an e-mail message; do everything as normal but send the message to 121 instead of 500. We use a different number for our e-mail gateway.

[AdmiralAK]

Just out of curiocity....
How many characters can you write in an SMS? If you have 160 available then you are sending a text, but for emails the maximum available, from what i've seen is 140 chars.

maybe you ARE sending to a mobile number, but there might be some conversion on the server to send it as number@cingular.net

Admiral

[Telekom]

Originally posted by jlrichards
For reference:

If you use the old Ptel SMSC to attempt to send an e-mail message; do everything as normal but send the message to 121 instead of 500. We use a different number for our e-mail gateway.

I just tried that and got a return that it wasn't deliverable (I'm in a VS west market that usually uses 500 to send messages.)