Global GSM Prepaid Overview - Great for travelers!

[JoTE]

Quick Facts
Country: Spain
Network Name: Vodafone España
Website: http://www.vodafone.es
Product Name: Vodafone tarjetas
Owned by/Major partners: Vodafone International
Operational Frequency: 900/1800 GSM
Prepaid Package Cost (Just SIM): I’m not sure, but over 30€ I think.
Prepaid Package Validity: 9 months with credit, 3 month without it
CSD access: Yes
GPRS access: Yes, after activation
SIM applications: Yes
Manual included: Yes, in spanish
Refill amounts: Cards (15,30,60€) or “TeleRecarga� (e-Recharging) (10€ or more)
Availability: Vodafone shops, phones shop, malls, (is easy to find it)
Competitors: Telefónica Movistar Spain or Amena Spain.

More In-Depth Information

Buying:
The Good:
Buying a prepaid package is really easy. You only have to go to a Vodafone shop (my village has 10.000 habitants and it’s got one), a mall, a telecom shop or even a tobaccos shop and ask for a “tarjeta vodafone� (vodafone card). Quickly you can insert it in your mobile phone and start to call. To start receiving calls you have to make a 1 min. call and your card will be activated. CSD wap access is available since SIM activation, to access wap via GPRS you have to activate it calling 155 (Vodafone data) or 123 (Vodafone number). I think vodafone personal can speak English, but I’m not sure. You needn’t any special permission like in other countries or giving your personal information (you have to send it by postal mail but you can lie xD )

The Bad:
Calling in the mornings with the default tariff is really expensive. It’s highly recommended to consult the tariffs in the SIM manual. (Although the best is the default one)

Usage:
The Good:
The really good thing in vodafone is the offers and promotions. Each two months, less or more, vodafone launches very good promotions and offers. This summer, for example, they’ve launched this promotion: you pay 6€ and only the first minute of each call until September. Another promotions are: Qtal (groups of vodafone numbers with a special tariff between the members: 6cents./min&sms) or a2 (a very very low tariff between two numbers: 3cents./min&sms)

The Bad:
Roaming can be expensive.
Client attention service is not very “clever� or effective


TIPS:
Be careful. Do not call before 4.00 p.m. with the default tariff!!

FINAL THOUGHTS:
I think Vodafone is not the perfect provider, but at least it’s the best in spain

[SQFreak]

FYI, on the previous page, use Western (ISO-8859-1) encoding and on this plage, use Unicode (UTF-8) encoding. Everything seems to display better that way.

[Telekom]

Originally posted by JDuarte
Quick Facts
Country: USA
Network Name: T-Mobile (USA)

Prepaid Package Validity: 180 days from activation

LFB: Prepaid is normally 90 days expiration with a $25 or higher card. Occasionally there will be a one year promotion, but it is not standard and $10 card expires in 30 days. $25 and higher expire in 90 days.

CSD access: Yes

LFB: There is no CSD access on prepaid.

Buying:
The Good:
Minutes are cheap only 40 to 30 cents per minute and 10 cents on weekends.

LFB: Where did you get that they have 10 cents per minute on the weekend? Unless it's something brand new that they've just introduced in the last few days that's wrong information.

Usage:
The Good:
Ten to thirty second phone calls do not round up to a minute.

LFB: Is that including ringing time? T-Mobile charges send-to-end which includes ringing time. I'll take your word that no calls are charged if they're less than thirty seconds though I'm really skeptical.

The calls are clear on all the phones I have owned from T-Mobile authorized dealers. $25 dollar cards get a Hundred and five minutes of talktime that only expire after 2 months(60 days).

LFB: $25 cards expire after 90 days not 60 days. It's been that way for at least a couple of months.

Lots of new phones with different technologies to choose from and the most liked about the EasySpeak plan is the free WAP or t-zones. 411(1.25 per minute), caller ID, call waiting and voicemail also included along with the AOL Instant Messenger feature(40 cents per minute).

LFB: 411 is not $1.25 per minute it's $1.25 plus airtime.

TIPS:
Get T-Mobile Pre-paid now for the t-zones there are rumours that free t-zones will be gone soon.

LFB: How is getting T-Zones now going to help you when they discontinue it (if they discontinue it.)


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[JDuarte]

Quick Facts
Country: USA
Network Name: T-Mobile (USA)
Website: http://www.tmobile.com
Product Name: T-Mobile To Go (formerly "EasySpeak")
Owned by/Major partners: T-Mobile USA
Operational Frequency: 1900
Prepaid Package Cost (Just SIM): $25 w/o Activation, $50 with
Prepaid Package Validity: 150 days from activation
CSD access: No
GPRS access: Yes
SIM applications: No
Manual included: Yes (English One Side/ Spanish other)
Refill amounts: $10 $25 $50 $75 $100
Availability: T-Mobile Website, Authorized dealers, and eBay
Competitors: AT&T wireless, Virgin Mobile, Cingular, Verizon

More In-Dept Information

Buying:
The Good:
Minutes are cheap only 40 to 30 cents per minute. Text messages 10cents to send and free to receive. $10 card is over 25 minutes. Lots of great GSM T-Mobile phones avalible for pre-paid activation. 10 second phone calls do Not round up to a minute. After a year with EasySpeak you get any other T-Mobile Phone from T-Mobile Authorized store cheaper. Free WAP(t-zones). Good coverage, 411 access, call waiting, call forwarding, caller ID, send and receive e-mail straight from your mobile phone or access your own e-mail account via t-zones.

The Bad:
Purchasing the SIM card along with pre-paid activation is $50...that's with out phone. SIM by itself is $25. Can't find anything else...

Usage:
The Good:
Ten to thirty second phone calls do not round up to a minute. The calls are clear on all the phones I have owned from T-Mobile authorized dealers. $25 dollar cards get a Hundred and five minutes of talktime that only expire after 3 months(90 days). Lots of new phones with different technologies to choose from and the most liked about the EasySpeak plan is the free WAP or t-zones. 411(1.25 per minute plus airtime), caller ID, call waiting and voicemail also included along with the AOL Instant Messenger feature(40 cents per minute).

The Bad:
Nothing really to complain about... just once in a while with the t-zones in the USA there are a few problems like it not working for an hour or up to 24 hours. Occurs in California 2-3 times a month.

TIPS:
Get T-Mobile Pre-paid now for the t-zones there are rumours that free t-zones will be gone soon. You know, use it while it's still free to get the most out of your phone. With Download Fun on the homepage and Many different WAP sites that offer free Ring Tones, Wallpaper, Screen Savers, and Games to make your phone your phone all about you, why would you not want t-zones?

FINAL THOUGHTS:
I believe that the Easyspeak prepaid service plan is the best in pre-paid wireless by far. I have tried AT&T and Virgin Mobile but you get less minutes and less features for more money. I would highly reccomend this service provider to anyone in the USA interested in become a pre-paid cellular phone user. No need for any credit card information at all!! You can't go wrong, with this pre-paid service provider. T-Mobile provides the best value in personal commmunication services(PCS) by offering more minutes, more features, and more service at the best price. Best Value. All Digital. T-Mobile is the only one that truly helps you Get More From Life.



**** COMMENTS BY ADMIRAL ****
There is a nice thread about T-Mobile prepaid that goes more in depth if you are interested: CLICK HERE

Also check this out as well if you are interested in T-mobile prepaid free SMS and free WAP
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[Andytel]

Quick Facts
Country: Switzerland
Network Name: SWISS GSM (NATEL-D on some phones)
Website: http://www.swisscom-mobile.ch
Product Name: NATEL easy
Owned by/Major partner: Swisscom Group
Operational Frequency: 900 and 1800 GSM
Prepaid Package Cost (Just SIM): 120 CHF with 80 CHF of credit
Prepaid Package Validity: does not expire
CSD access: Yes (HSCSD)
GPRS access: Yes
SIM applications: Yes (some)
Manual included: 18-page guide in German, French or Italian
Refill amounts: Value cards (credit included): CHF 20(20), 50(50), 100(100) scratch cards, or any amount between CHF 20 and 300 via Postamat.
Availability: Swisscom Shops; Post offices, other shops and fuel stations (for top-up scratch cards)
Competitors: Orange CH, Sunrise

More In-Depth Information

Buying:
The Good:
Very easy to buy a prepaid card.
Swisscom shops can be found in most towns, even smaller ones. It's very easy to top-up, fuel stations, booths within commercial centres and post offices do sell scratch cards (Value cards).

The Bad:
By a new Swiss law, users of prepaid SIM cards must be registered: this must be done upon purchase (ID card or passport are good enough for that), or by October 31st, 2004 if you already own a swiss SIM card. After this date, unregistered SIM cards will be prevented from accessing the network.
To top-up via credit card even from abroad, you have to fill in a specific request form at the shop.


Usage:
The Good:
GSM coverage is really good everywhere, considering Switzerland is famous for its mountains; also in long tunnels like the St.Gotthard.
Cell info broadcasts the name of the location, where the base-station you're connected to is (useful if you want to find out where you are and you don't know the places well).
GPRS/MMS is enabled, of course you must first set the phone correctly (On-the-air settings are available).
SMS work well also internationally. After each call, an info SMS tells you how much you were charged.
Swisscom mobile supports Vodafone Live! as a WAP-portal.
International roaming in more than 100 countries can be activated just by dialling *100*11#(send), and it works by call-back, dialling *111*phonenumber# (send).
Direct-dial roaming is also available with most neghbouring-countries and european operators.

The Bad:
Tariffs are among the most expensive ones within Switzerland; billing is per 0.10 CHF increments.
Calling to toll-free numbers -except customer care- are not actually "free": minimum billing is 0.50 CHF.
For wap-services (info, ringtones, etc.) you have to pay the cost of the services in addition to the data transfer cost.

TIPS:
1)Remember the fee timetable: Monday-Friday 07:00-19:00 = normal, Monday-Friday 06:00-07:00 and 19:00-22:00 = reduced, Saturday,Sunday, legal holidays 00:00-24:00 and other periods = night/w.e. discount.
2)Call to Swisscom network are cheaper than calls to other domestic mobile networks.
3)You can anytime check your credit by dialling *130#(send) and receive back an info SMS (free of charge).
4)In many zones near the Swiss borders (including cities of Geneve, Basel, Chiasso, lakes and other zones), be careful because if your phone "hangs" the signal of nearby foreign networks you can incur unwanted roaming charges (while incoming calls are always free within the Swisscom mobile network). To prevent this, manually select the home network.
5)If you are going to Switzerland for skiing or alpine climbing, memorize in your SIM the the phone nr. of Swiss Emergency Mountain Rescue Service (Rega): 1414

FINAL THOUGHTS:
Swisscom mobile is expensive (also in the start-up cost), but offers the best service, best coverage and has no short-time expiration.
Sunrise is cheaper but has less coverage and poorer services, Orange has quite good coverage but is not so much cheaper.
Rates for calling abroad and roaming are quite reasonable (only SMS and data access abroad is nearly a rip-off): considering the great number of roaming partners, NATEL SIM cards can be effectively used as world-cards (Swisscom is Vodafone partner network). There are some specific offers if you mean to use this way.

[Darla]

Hey Admiral this was an excellent idea!!! You might wanna add T-Mobile PAYG to the UK lineup.

[Noodiez69]

Not GSM but PREPAID!!!

Quick Facts
Country: United States
Network Name: Virgin Mobile
Website: http://www.virginmobileusa.com/
Plan name: Pay as you go
Owned by/Major partner: Operates using Sprint PCS network
Operational frequency: CDMA
Prepaid package cost (just SIM): No SIM, see website for fones
Airtime cost (US): 25 cents per minute for the the first 10 minutes then it drops to 10 cents per minute.
Text messages: 10 cents to send, free to recieve
CSD access: No
GPRS access: No
SIM applications: No
Refill amounts: 20, 30, 50, 100
Availability: Virgin Megastores and most cell phone dealers


More In-Depth Information

Buying:
The Good:
Very easy to get started. You can buy the phone at most large department stores. And at all Virgin MegaStores. And they are not available at all Sprint PCS stores.

The Bad:
The airtime cards are not in too many different increments.

Usage:
The Good:
Airtime and text messaging rates are not too costly. Never really had problems with dropped calls.

The Bad:
No data services besides the "Virgin Xtras", which is very limited and most sites among the "Xtras" cost 10 cents. Ringtones are very costly too!!!! And there is no roaming. Service is also only available in the US.

TIPS:

If you are looking for a phone that is going to be nationwide then beware because if theres no Sprint PCS coverage then your out of luck and will not be able to use your phone.



FINAL THOUGHTS
It was easy to get started, and easy to use. Didn't liek how much teh ringtones were. Didn't like the fact that there was no roaming. Sprint PCS has a lot of dead areas in my area so a lot of the time my phone did not work, it was just searching for a signal.

[Telekom]

Originally posted by Noodiez69
Not GSM but PREPAID!!!

Quick Facts
Country: United States
Network Name: Virgin Mobile
Website: http://www.virginmobileusa.com/
Plan name: Pay as you go
Owned by/Major partner: Operates using Sprint PCS network
Operational frequency: CDMA

Operational frequency is not CDMA. That's the air interface technology used. The frequency is 1900 which is what they use from Sprint PCS. PCS is 1900.

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Edited to keep concise
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[Junglizt1210]

Originally posted by hef - Updated by badgerbadger (that's me)
Quick Facts
Country: UK
Network Name: Vodafone UK
Website: www.vodafone.co.uk
Product Name: Vodafone Pay As You Talk (PAYT)
Owned by/Major partners: Vodafone UK
Operational Frequency: 900MHz
Prepaid Package Cost (Just SIM): 10 UK Pounds
Prepaid Package Validity: 180 days from activation
CSD access: Yesiree
GPRS access: Yesiree
SIM applications: No for SIMs before 2004, yes for SIMS after 2004 and pre 2004 SIMs that recieved a SIM update. Apps.
Manual included: Yes, en ingles!
Refill amounts: Prices in UK Pounds terling: 5, 10, 15, 25
Availability: Vodafone UK shops, Caphone Warehouse (expensive), many other small shops...
Competitors: 3, O2, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin…

More In-Depth Information

Buying:
The Good:
Walk into any Vodafone store and they should have a SIM pack in stock. Payment on credit card or cash, should be supplied with a “quickstart” sheet that has tips and codes useful for everyday use of your new SIM! SIM comes with 1 Pound credit and can be used immediately.

The Bad:
Some shops (other than Vodafone) will try to charge up to 25 Pounds for a Vodafone SIM card, telephone number for new SIM is not printed anywhere so you have to insert SIM into phone and make a call to find out new number. addred by badgerbadger: I've bought SIMs on eBay for around 5 Pounds, otherwise in shops you can find them between 15 to 25 pounds sterling. Top up in UK can be done with vouchers and swipe cards (also known as e-top-up cards), but i'm not sure if they accept credit cards. I've heard that topping up abroad is good, it can be done with credit cards, or buying vouchers. But note that you can't have a Vodafone UK SIM, use a French SFR Voucher and top up in Sweden. The top up has to be done in the country of the voucher. Also I am not sure whether foreign Credit cards can be used to top up, and As of 2003, you could not top up abroad using UK Vodafone swipe cards, although I'm not sure whether it can be done nowadays.

Usage:
The Good:
Coverage with Vodafone is very good, probably the best of all the networks in the UK. You can buy text packs that make it VERY cheap to text people in the UK. Extra credit is easy to find in gas stations, supermarkets, post offices etc No need to register to use it. badgerbadger adds: Most new SIMs registered are registered on the Smartstep Price Plan. SIMs from 2001 and before were registered on the Allday price plan and you are given the option to switch as the Allday price plan is no longer available. Smartstep Price plan means that the first 3 minutes you call are slightly more expensive and after that they get cheap (can't remeber how much, varies depending on what you are calling) and 3 SMS text messages are prices at 12 pence each and after that all messages are 9 pence each. The counter is reset back to zero at the start of each day (i.e. at midnight, you have to call again for 3 mins to get cheaper calls and send 3 messages to send cheaper messages). Coverage is excellent even in hilly areas while Orange and O2 struggle to get a strong signal in places such as the Cardiff Valleys, for example. Vodafone are also an MCN network. This means Cell Info works, as well as MCN commands that can be sent. For example, *#100# will give you your number, *#105# will tell you what network transmission tower you are connected to as well as information about the tower, *#102# tells you what tower youa re cnnected to, *#147# tells you what your last incoming call was, whether you recieved it or not, whether your phoine was on or not, even if the SIM was in another phone, or if it wasn't in a phone, etc... it will tell you the last call. Vodafone Italy and Vodafone D2 Germany are also MCN networks for those interested. Vodafone UK is the only UK network to support MCN. I'm also pretty sure roaming is pre-activated. Roaming agreements: UK - Vodafone (although my phone has roamed on Orange a few times, i think its because of a weak signal), France - SFR (and Orange FR where signal is too weak), Belgium - Proximus, Netherlands - Vodafone NL, Germany - Vodafone D2 Germany, Italy - Vodafone Italy, Spain - Vodafone, Republic of Ireland - Vodafone Ireland.

The Bad:
No reduced rates packs available for overseas use like O2, calling other UK networks can be expensive. badgerbadger adds: Priced at approximately 35 pence a minute for calls to other networks.

TIPS:
Check out the text packs and voice packs that can make using your phone cheaper!
Check out the Vodafone website for pricing information, I would include it here but it can change so check there for up to date info!!

FINAL THOUGHTS:
Someone who’s actually on Vodafone PAYT may be able to write a better review, I’m not actually on it but I work in a Vodafone shop so do have some experience J

[AdmiralAK]

Quick Facts
Country: USA
Network Name: Cingular
Website: http://www.cingular.com
Product Name: KIC (Keep In Contact)
Owned by/Major partners: SBC and Bell South
Operational Frequency: 850 and 1900 GSM
Prepaid Package Cost (Just SIM): $30 ($30 credit on activation)
Prepaid Package Validity: 10 dollar card = 30 days, higher cards = 90 days
CSD access: No
GPRS access: No (supposed to be available by September 2004)
SIM applications: No
Manual included: Yes (English & Spanish)
Refill amounts: $10, $20, $30, $50, $100
Availability: Cingular Stores, Cingular Online Store
Competitors: T-Mobile, AT&T

More In-Depth Information

Buying:
The Good:
There are quite a few Cingular stores around you can drop into any one of them and ask for a prepaid SIM. The price isn't bad and you get $30 worth of airtime. There are three "plans" that you can choose from.

The Bad:
People on the Cingular forum have not reported anything bad. I would make my self very specific when ordering at the store that you JUST want the SIM card, not the phone + SIM package. The only thing that I also found a bit annoying is that Cingular's website does not have a SIM only package. You can however get SIM only from independent dealers online.

Usage:
The Good:
There are three plans which you can chose from. You can chose from "KIC prepaid nights and weekens" which givens you 10 cent weekend and night minutes, and 35 cent per minute standard charge. You have the "KIC prepaid 10 cent per minute plan" which allows you to make any call for 10 cents per minute (they charge you an additional dollar per day), and finally you have the "KIC prepaid unlimited weekends" plan which charges you 30 cents per minute standard time and 30 cents per minute at night (additionally they charge you 1 dollar per day). With KIC you can also access your account information online (if you happen to be in an internet cafe). On the SMS front, there have not been any complaints (that I could find) as to sending messages internationally.

The Bad:
This can be seen as good or as bad --> Cingular is a mixed network. It operates on both GSM 850 and GSM 1900. If you are coming to the USA from abroad make sure that you have a phone that supports the 850 GSM band. Also it would be prudent to check coverage in the area (areas) that you will be staying. Cingular at the moment does not provide GPRS access on KIC accounts but it is reported that they will start offering it by September 2004. Finally there is not international roaming. GPRS costs 2c per kilobyte! OUCH!

TIPS:
1) Get yourself a phone that supports the 850 GSM and 1900 GSM bands
2) Think about what plan you are going to use
3) Get the name and address of the hotel or relative that you are staying because they will most likely ask you for some personal data when you try to buy and activate your SIM.
4) Check the coverage in the area that you will be staying to make sure there is signal before you buy.


FINAL THOUGHTS:
One major drawback here is the fact that Cingular does not provide GPRS or CSD on their prepaid accounts. If you want a voice-only phone that you are going to use sparingly then KIC is good. Members in the Cingular forum have commented that the prices are a tad bit expensive.

[AdmiralAK]

Quick Facts
Country: International
Network Name:
Website: http://www.united-mobile.com
Product Name: United-Mobile
Owned by/Major partners: Partnered with many carriers globally
Operational Frequency: 900, 1800, 1900 GSM
Prepaid Package Cost (Just SIM): 40 euro (25 euro airtime included)
Prepaid Package Validity: 1 year
CSD access: No
GPRS access: No
SIM applications: No
Manual included: Yes (English, Italian, French, German, Spanish)
Refill amounts: 20, 50, 100, 200 Euro
Availability: United Mobile's website and some distributors
Competitors: Hop Mobile

More In-Depth Information

Buying:
The Good:
Buying this package seems easy enough, just hop on to united mobile's website, add it to your cart, click on check out fill in necessary customer details, choose a payment method and voila, you're almost done.

The Bad:
You need to place orders through a website, you cannot buy this SIM card locally at stores like local telecom SIM cards. There are some local distributors found online through their site but they are few and far between.

Usage:
The Good:
The package comes with a manual, SIM and PIN and PUK codes (just in case you enter the bad PIN too many times). Coverage is pretty damned good since they are partnered with many telecoms across the globe, so whether in europe seems pretty well covered based on their coverage details (http://www.united-mobile.com/coverage.asp). Instructions and menus can be in different languages. In addition to voice and SMS you also get voicemail and information services

The Bad:
Looking at the list of covered countries it is hard to find south american countries. Also in Asia, I do not see China, arguably the biggest country in the continent. The thing that I do not like about their coverage disclosure is that you do not get a list of carriers that you roam onto and therefore you cannot assess how coverage is in any given country. GPRS access is not allowed, and calls can be a bit prohibitive (39 cents for incoming, 69 cents for outgoing, 89 cents per minute if you call a mobile phone and 49cents per SMS!!!)... and finally their website suffers from bad design (the sub-menus for user info, product package and company do not work for me, as soon as I move my cursor to go click on the sub-menu it disappears!)

TIPS:
1) Handsets are optional, you can bring your own, just make sure that your handset is supported (they have a supported list).
2) A copy of the manual is online, check it out on their website and see if you understand it before you buy it.

FINAL THOUGHTS:
This package is good for someone doing the "pan-european" trip (or something similar) where you are going to be in Germany for 2 days, 1 day in France, 2 in Italy and 4 in Spain. It is worth it to have one number all throughout Europe to be able to make and receive phone-calls and sending/receiving SMS messages without going though a local telecom and activating roaming on your french or german or other prepaid account and getting charged up the wazoo and having difficulty recharging your account when not in the country of origin of the SIM card. For general usage I think this is a bit expensive for both you and the person(s) calling you because the number that you get is a Liechtenstein number, meaning that your friends and colleagues need to dial an international number in order to reach you.

[Telekom]

Originally posted by AdmiralAK
[B]Quick Facts]

In the details for cingular KIC prepaid it does not address where this prepaid account will work. I'm not sure what the situation is now, but previously at least for the GSM networks the account would only work in specific cingular areas e.g. the prepaid would work in the CA/NV/WA area and a separate system was in place for NC/SC so if you got a prepaid account in either place it would only work on one system. Is the system all unified now so if you have the correct equipment (850/1900) you can use it throughout any cingular system or can you use the prepaid in only certain areas and not in other cingular areas.

T-Mobile had this problem before they unified their system in that you could only use prepaid in the market where it was activated and could not be used in other T-Mobile areas as they were a different system. Now you can use T-Mobile prepaid anywhere in their system.

[Telekom]

Originally posted by AdmiralAK

The Bad:
Looking at the list of covered countries it is hard to find south american countries. Also in Asia, I do not see China, arguably the biggest country in the continent. The thing that I do not like about their coverage disclosure is that you do not get a list of carriers that you roam onto and therefore you cannot assess how coverage is in any given country.

LFB: That's odd. I'm on the site right now and among the countries listed are Brazil, Colombia, Bolivia and Chile.

And China is most certainly listed.

[AdmiralAK]

Originally posted by littlefuzzbear
In the details for cingular KIC prepaid it does not address where this prepaid account will work. I'm not sure what the situation is now, but previously at least for the GSM networks the account would only work in specific cingular areas e.g. the prepaid would work in the CA/NV/WA area and a separate system was in place for NC/SC so if you got a prepaid account in either place it would only work on one system. Is the system all unified now so if you have the correct equipment (850/1900) you can use it throughout any cingular system or can you use the prepaid in only certain areas and not in other cingular areas.

I was looking at online dealers and apparently you can activate any cingular SIM no matter where you are in the USA so long as they have GSM KIC.

[AdmiralAK]

Originally posted by littlefuzzbear

I did not say they were not there, I said they weren't easy to find My mistake for the miscommunication.

On another level, I still do not see china listed in the roaming page, it is listed in the charges page, and in addition to that their roaming listing is not aphabetical (at least in the way that I have seen most sites do aphabetical --> top to bottom and left to right)