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    Now you're taking the topic somewhere else; to upload your ringtones to your V600, you can use Bluetooth with your PC, mobile Phone Tools (recommended), or WAP (requires you to store your file online for your phone to retreive it).
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    Well, I figure since I'll be buying a data cable anyway to start hacking my phone, I might as well save the data charges associated with WAP uploading and just get the software for it. We're talking about the $30 software Motorola provides on their site, right? I wanted to try to avoid buying that at all costs, but, I guess it must be done, and will end up being a good investment.

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    Oooh, I have another cute problem!

    When I try to encode a WAV file to be converted to an MP3 using the tutorial, I am told that the LAME file could not be found and "Please specify in the following options dialog the correct locatation of LAME"

    Am I missing something?

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    Nevermind, I got it working.

    Let's talk about lag. I cut and encoded 6 files or so that sound great to my liking and each one is about 200 kb and 25 seconds long. Is this going to lag on my phone when someone calls? If so, how much?

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    Not even a full second at worst.

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    if i use 48bit/44000khz & can still get my file size under 120, do you still think it's too much? b/c i CAN hear the difference, even on my phone.

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    You could, but it would have to depend on the overall length of the music. I'd say it would have to be like 15 seconds or less to secure that file size.

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    Originally posted by NineToez
    You could, but it would have to depend on the overall length of the music. I'd say it would have to be like 15 seconds or less to secure that file size.
    yeah, most of my ringtones are just under 20 seconds b/c my phone only rings for 20 before it forwards to voicemail.

    do you know any way to do the high-filter thing to get rid of bass through sony sound forge?

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    You could try my tutorial posted on my site. Hit the 'www' button on the bottom of this post to see it.

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    hi ninetoez, is there any possibility that you can post an indepth guide for new motorola models that features stereo speakers and better bass systems?
    the current guide is meant for phones with no or low bass sound system and phones with a mono speaker. I believe users with the new upcoming phones of motorola with stereo speakers will benefit from your new guide.
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    Not a bad idea weak_pig, however the only Motorola phone (anyone correct me if I'm wrong) that is capable of stereo playback is the E398 at the time I'm writing this. I'm sure this will change with time, however the only real differences in creating a tone for stereo phones would be :

    1. High Pass Filter can be skipped.
    2. You can reasonably encode your final mp3 up to 128 kbps and in joint stereo, however still use the 22.05 KHz sampling rate, which is the speaker max.
    3. File size isn't so critical thanks to the TF or any removable flash memory.

    I did make a note for E398 users at the very bottom of the guide, but the steps are still mostly the same.

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    NineToez, mobile phones with stereo speakers are E398, and the upcoming E680 (which i'm planning to get... lol; tats why i asked : P). There should be more of such phones coming out soon. Thanks for the additional info!

    In any case, may i ask why you mentioned in your guide to convert an mp3 into a wav, edit it, then convert it back to mp3?
    Because, based on my understanding, i think you can edit an mp3 as it is without converting to a wav... unless i'm wrong?

    Why do you need this extra step of converting to wav? is it to gain better compression rates? Will this converting to and fro of codecs cause 'lossy' sound quality? (like in pics, when i convert from bmp to jpeg.)

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    Originally posted by weak_pig
    Why do you need this extra step of converting to wav? is it to gain better compression rates? Will this converting to and fro of codecs cause 'lossy' sound quality? (like in pics, when i convert from bmp to jpeg.)
    Very good question, weak_pig, and my answer will be more of opinion vs. anything else. WAV is an uncompressed audio format that will give you the ability to compress it down to mp3 in any compression you want without losing too much total harmonic distortion (aka "lossy").

    If you know Photoshop, it's like working with hi-res images that you start off with huge, then resize down for to maintain image quality and aspect ratio. Now, if you took a low-res image and tried to "blow it up", it technically can be done, but with sacrifice to the final image quality.

    Since the Vxxx series has one little mono 22.05KHz speaker, most people want the audio quality, but will also wish to keep the file size down as much as possible without sacrificing audio quality. It's a matter taste really since many people have had arguements with me on kbps for file size. IMHO, an mp3 ringtone coded at 32 kbps doesn't sound much different vs. one coded at 64 kbps on the phone itself.

    Stereo phones will have the added bonus of having more room on them as well (thanks to removable memory media), so you could theoretically encode them to anything you want since phone memory won't be an issue.

    Thanks for the heads up on E680 as well, however I still have my sights set on an E398 personally.

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    i love threads like this one

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    Hi!

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    Very helpful guide! Thanks

    How about videos? Do you have a definitive guide for that? Hope so

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