The Monster USCC Off-Topic Thread

[tritium man]

What do you mean?

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[tearsonurcheek]

So...my 14-year-old was complaining that the video game my wife was playing (Wheelman) had classical music. So, I played this for him and let him know it was popular when I was a teen. And that I used to have it on vinyl (that's the big black circles that won't fit in your CD player that your parents sometimes pull out for music, you kids).

[tearsonurcheek]

From Maiden's Facebook page, starting in October, they'll be releasing picture disc re-releases (2 per month, through January) of the above 80's classics. Win! I soooooooooooo can't wait for Live After Death - the best live album, ever!

Scream for me, Long Beach!!!!!

[ilvla2]

So I got Madden 2013 for the PS3, AWESOME game!

[tearsonurcheek]

Bwahahahahahaha

[tearsonurcheek]

Holy smokes! The NFL needs more players like Chris Kluwe. People who not only espouse tolerance, but aren't afraid to use logic and facts to denounce hate. Awesome!

[BigE]

Holy smokes! The NFL needs more players like Chris Kluwe. People who not only espouse tolerance, but aren't afraid to use logic and facts to denounce hate. Awesome!

If you like that, you'll love this.

http://www.deadspin.com/5941348/they-wont-magically-turn-you-into-a-lustful-cockmonster-chris-kluwe-explains-gay-marriage-to-the-politician-who-is-offended-by-an-nfl-player-supporting-it

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[ilvla2]

Those who don't agree with gay marriage are not always intolerant, my family and I are against it and we're some of the most loving, kind people you'll meet, we love everyone and would do anything for our fellow brothers and sisters. Lance, I am saddened to see you taken in by the "if you don't support the gay lifestyle and gay marriage, you are an evil, hateful person" junk, I really expected better of you. I'm not sure when the world got the idea that in order to love someone you have to drop everything you believe in and agree with someone, that's like saying parents who disagree with their kids, and what parents don't at some point don't love their kids. Disagree with you if you must, but to say I'm hateful is wrong and hurtful/

Now, we're all Mormon in my family, and all Democrat, to blow the "all Mormon's are Repubs" myth out of the water. I'll just end with my church's statement on the whole mess-

"Those who favor homosexual marriage contend that “tolerance” demands that they be given the same right to marry as heterosexual couples. But this appeal for “tolerance” advocates a very different meaning and outcome than that word has meant throughout most of American history and a different meaning than is found in the gospel of Jesus Christ. The Savior taught a much higher concept, that of love. “Love thy neighbor,” He admonished. Jesus loved the sinner even while decrying the sin, as evidenced in the case of the woman taken in adultery: treating her kindly, but exhorting her to “sin no more.” Tolerance as a gospel principle means love and forgiveness of one another, not “tolerating” transgression. In today’s secular world, the idea of tolerance has come to mean something entirely different. Instead of love, it has come to mean condone – acceptance of wrongful behavior as the price of friendship. Jesus taught that we love and care for one another without condoning transgression. But today’s politically palatable definition insists that unless one accepts the sin he does not tolerate the sinner.

As Elder Dallin H. Oaks has explained,
Tolerance obviously requires a non-contentious manner of relating toward one another’s differences. But tolerance does not require abandoning one’s standards or one’s opinions on political or public policy choices. Tolerance is a way of reacting to diversity, not a command to insulate it from examination.
The Church does not condone abusive treatment of others and encourages its members to treat all people with respect. However, speaking out against practices with which the Church disagrees on moral grounds – including same-sex marriage – does not constitute abuse or the frequently misused term “hate speech.” We can express genuine love and friendship for the homosexual family member or friend without accepting the practice of homosexuality or any re-definition of marriage. "


http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/articl...on-of-marriage

I love everyone, and I hold no ill will towards you or anyone else out there, it's sad that a few though have branded us bigots and hateful, when the exact opposite is true. I wasn't going to say anything, since this forum has been pretty mellow and easy going for the most part, but I have to stand up this time and speak, my conscious demands it.

[tearsonurcheek]

I never said that you, or anyone specific, for that matter, was hateful. However, to say that a lot of anti-gay rhetoric isn't hateful is to overlook it's intent. Most public arguments against gay marriage tend toward hate or circular logic. You'll note that, in his blog, he does not engage in a lot of generalities, but directs his argument to the specific topic at hand. I do agree that tolerance doesn't require agreement. The arguments he rails against aren't of the "I believe this action is wrong, but I accept your right to your views" variety. They are more of the "You're wrong, and your beliefs impair mine", which is patently false.

Please note, though, that my point was not to start a political argument about gay marriage, as that is just a flamewar waiting to happen. I was merely trying to point out an NFL player that, rather than being "me, me, me", actually espouses tolerance, and isn't afraid to use his fame as a platform to share that message. If you read some of his other blogs from that source, you'll see he isn't afraid to call out his colleagues, the owners, even his friends for their intolerance. He doesn't respond in kind, he merely uses logic and facts to debunk the fallacies. He even points out that, even if the target isn't receptive, he does it to sway his readers who might be on the fence. We need more of that.

[tearsonurcheek]

After an amazing comeback from 6 runs down in game 5 of the NLDS, the Redbirds are in the NLCS for the 7th time since 2000, and the second year in a row!

'12 in '12!

P.S. Was listening to the Ben Mather show on Fox Sports Radio after the game. Normally I like him, but last night he was a classless jerk for suggesting that the Nat's owner "deserved" to lose to the Cards for benching Strasburg. The Nat's didn't "deserve" anything. They earned the best record in baseball, then came up against a team with more post-season experience, who wouldn't give up. That game could have easily gone the other way, and I fully expect the Nats to be contenders every year going forward.

P.P.S. Having said that, I'm ecstatic that it *didn't* go the other way.

[hawaiisun21]

Lance, I thought of you when I saw that the Giants won the World Series. I'm very sorry for your loss.

[tearsonurcheek]

Yeah, we were just one win away from the Series. Not bad for a rookie manager and a team that squeaked into the 2nd wild card on the next-to-last day of the season. Sad thing is, in all three games they were getting on base. In fact, several times they had runners on 2nd and 3rd. They just couldn't get 'em across the plate. Outscored 19-1 in those 3 games. And after what they did to the Nats in game 5 of the NLDS, coming back from a 6-0 deficit. Of course, it didn't sting so bad after I saw what they did to the Tigers - the same Tigers who swept the Yankees. Just unreal.

[hawaiisun21]

At least your team was winning games...I'm stuck supporting a team that has only won two games this season. The worst part is that they ended the first half of most of their lost games ahead. It's like they go in the locker room and forget to come back out It's driving me gonzo.

[droobie]

Don't suppose someone could look up a Subsidy code for an old Motorola M800 bag phone for me? If you can, PM me. I bought it from a USCC dealer a few years ago in WI and it appears it was a 15 day return and it received the lock, probably during a PRL update.

Thanks in advance.

--Droo, @Network

[tearsonurcheek]

If you haven't seen it (yeah, right), your local ABC affiliate is playing the Charlie Brown Thanksgiving special tonight at 8 pm EST/7 pm CST.