Motorola v3xx - UMTS/HSDPA RAZR (released)

[Ddask137]

The folks @ Motorola can dress up the casing all they want... the UI is STILL the same as it's ALWAYS been. When can we expect to see improvements in that?!

[Maverick05]

You know, i really don't mind the xx vs the maxx... i'd be happy with either. The only thing i don't like about the xx is that the keypad is like the v3 instead of like the v3i or the maxx. I like how the buttons are larger on the v3i, makes for easier texting.

Does anyone know if the guts are the same? I'm primarily referring to processor speed.

[Quatre]

why is this thread still called the iraz? isn't it the izar/v3xx. release date in my sig was originally just stated as late nov/early dec. but recently updated with an actual date of dec. 9th?

[Quatre]

It's stupid how they didn't choose the MAXX!?!? It's so unique compared to the same old worn out V3 design. I guess that's what the KRZR is for, though Verizon has a KRZR and a MAXX Gosh, Verizon wins again. No matter, I hate Moto anyways.

It would be cool if the xx had the dragon design on it, though I doubt it, as it doesn't appeal to many .

The A707 is a much better option, considering; 1. It's (somewhat) available 2. It has a nice black design rather than gray 3. 2 megapixel camera 3. Not a Moto 4. Has Cingular Music support

The only thing is the xx has 3.6 Mbps HSDPA rather than 1.8 on the SYNC. But you watch Moto exclude that feature for some pointless reason.

yah its so frustrating, vzw totally winning/killing it with motos

i'll never forget how there was a quad band v3i out so long ago and all cingular had to do was brand it and beat vzw to the punch.

somehow vzw gets a cdma version of the v3i in the v3m made from scratch and released way before cing can even just get around to putting their name on the v3i. that is sad and no exuse.

i was laughing when vzw release the razr v3c (their version of orig rzr v3) like over a year after cing but since then they beat cing everytime

vzw already release their second color k1m (grey and white, not to mention white lg chocolate) before cing even releases their first color k1 (and they may only get the blue one and no other color cus i dont know of any other color gsm k1)

then we all hear about the gsm maxx and it came out awhile ago for other countries and online merchants have it, yeah you can import it and use it just for voice on cing or tmob but you can't make use of the 3g capability and it doesnt have 850 so even voice could be not as good.

out of nowhwere news and pics emerge about a cdma maxx for vzw. i'm like wtf, again

now ppl are saying cing may jus get the v3xx/izar/iraz whatever instead and not the maxx

as someone said the v3xx looks just like a reg razr but with hsdpa. i wans't even going to bother with it and just wait for the maxx with new looks/styling/lighting.

i think vzw had paid moto off big time to do this.

if cing only gets the rzr look alike v3xx while vzw gets the maxx and cing never gets the maxx not even late, then its a real problem and vzw must have some deal with moto.

i like moto phones but luckily not the only thing i like. if you do i guess you wnat to be with vzw if y9u can stomach them but you cant switch phones easily either cus its not gsm with sim cards

luckily i like smart/ppc phones more then moto and now that cing has 3g i'll try sticking with that but damn, tempting to keep vzw just for voice/free in calling/ cool moto phone. now that i'm switching data to cing and dropping data on vzw. was currently using cing just for voice.

can't use vzw as main voice cus i'm not porting my main voice # on cing to vzw so cing would be data and majority of voice and vzw would be just free in calling with fam etc. bleh thats not worth it really, though whole reason i added on wifes vzw account in frist place was way back when for the moto v710 cus it was first bluetooth , wanted a nice moto flip and liked the phone. class action lawsuit on it got me a free Q and steroe bt moto headphones.

but still once i started using vzw for 3g evdo data in addition to free in calling, and cing just for voice it made more sense.

unless i keep vzw for data figuring that cings 3g might not be as wide spread but that will be dumb to have data on both carrier ugh

i just hate vzw and now how they get the best moto phones exclusively or at least first. i think i'd rather just stop liking moto phones then give in to vzw.

[Prevailing Wind]

I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread, but Telstra has the V6 already.

http://www.telstra.com.au/nextgnetwo...hones_id=36927

If a comparatively small carrier like Telstra can get a RAZR MAXX then Cingular could easily get it if they wanted it.

[Quatre]

of course they can but they aren't at least not as lf yet. instead we are getting the crappy v3xx which looks just like the v3 and v3i while vzw gets a version of the maxx.

I think there is more to this. I don't think cing is just dumb and sucks that bad. I think vzw just has a deal with moto and cing is banned from getting thse phones during vzws exclusive.

is telstra gsm? if so that's crazy and if its gsm in america then I'm sure we can just get that version for use on cing.

point is right now cing is only due to get the v3xx while vzw gets the superior v6e/maxx

[Quatre]

oh .au

so that's prob the euro gsm version that doesn't have 850 and won't work on cings hsdpa. wasthe same thing with the vex and ppl still imported that but I don't see the point.

point of that small cafrier getting it is they prob didn't have to change the phone at all.

cing would have to have moto add the neccesary bands. which isn't as hard as what vzw has moto do in building them a completely new cdma vesrsion.

good luck thinking cus some small au carrier got it that cing will have moto make them one with the needed freqs.

cing couldn't even brand the already quadband v3i and release it before vzw had a cdma version with 3g made and released well before cing released the v3i which is no diff then the one that was a ailable for import for over a year before cing finally released it ans well after vzws superior version (besides their gui but by superior I mean 3g)

so I'm not hoping for the maxx. in fact I wouldn t be surprised if vzw has an exclusive on it and cing never gets or as usual gets it so late its outdated and no longer in demand.

[Prevailing Wind]

is telstra gsm? if so that's crazy and if its gsm in america then I'm sure we can just get that version for use on cing.

Telstra has both CDMA and GSM and UMTS and HSDPA. They run CDMA on 850, and UMTS on 2100, and HSDPA is replacing their CDMA network on 850.

oh .au

so that's prob the euro gsm version that doesn't have 850 and won't work on cings hsdpa. wasthe same thing with the vex and ppl still imported that but I don't see the point.

point of that small cafrier getting it is they prob didn't have to change the phone at all.

cing would have to have moto add the neccesary bands. which isn't as hard as what vzw has moto do in building them a completely new cdma vesrsion.

good luck thinking cus some small au carrier got it that cing will have moto make them one with the needed freqs.

cing couldn't even brand the already quadband v3i and release it before vzw had a cdma version with 3g made and released well before cing released the v3i which is no diff then the one that was a ailable for import for over a year before cing finally released it ans well after vzws superior version (besides their gui but by superior I mean 3g)

so I'm not hoping for the maxx. in fact I wouldn t be surprised if vzw has an exclusive on it and cing never gets or as usual gets it so late its outdated and no longer in demand.

Actually the Maxx uses 850 and has HSDPA on 850. That's part of the specs. Furthermore, Telstra uses the 850 band for HSDPA (to replace their existing CDMA 850 network).

In fact, Telstra's HSDPA lineup is nearly identical to Cingular's. Check it out: http://www.telstra.com.au/nextgnetwork/mobiles.cfm

There's the imate jasjam, the LG TU500 (identical to the CU500), the Motorola RAZR MAXX V6, the Samsung A501 (identical to the ZX20), the Samsung A701 (identical to the A707), and the Telstra 850.

Basically, Telstra's "NextG" lineup should be a very good indicator of what's coming to Cingular, and Rogers in Canada, which is getting the Samsung A706 (same as the A701/A707) and the TU500.

Provided there are unlocked versions of the Telstra Maxx or just in general, they should work with Cingular.

[Gtx1]

i have the cu500 but wen this comes out is there anyway i can upgrade to this phone? How much will i have to pay if so? Also any prices yet? thanks

[Maverick05]

Boy Genius has posted rebates for cingular for this year, this phoen is not on it. Does this mean the december 9 date thrown out in here is not gonna come true?

[CoreyTheGent]

That or there won't be any rebates.

[Quatre]

Telstra has both CDMA and GSM and UMTS and HSDPA. They run CDMA on 850, and UMTS on 2100, and HSDPA is replacing their CDMA network on 850.



Actually the Maxx uses 850 and has HSDPA on 850. That's part of the specs. Furthermore, Telstra uses the 850 band for HSDPA (to replace their existing CDMA 850 network).

In fact, Telstra's HSDPA lineup is nearly identical to Cingular's. Check it out: http://www.telstra.com.au/nextgnetwork/mobiles.cfm

There's the imate jasjam, the LG TU500 (identical to the CU500), the Motorola RAZR MAXX V6, the Samsung A501 (identical to the ZX20), the Samsung A701 (identical to the A707), and the Telstra 850.

Basically, Telstra's "NextG" lineup should be a very good indicator of what's coming to Cingular, and Rogers in Canada, which is getting the Samsung A706 (same as the A701/A707) and the TU500.

Provided there are unlocked versions of the Telstra Maxx or just in general, they should work with Cingular.

i thought the gsm maxx wasnt' quad band. you need gsm 850 for voice right and then umts/hsdpa 850 and 1900 for 3g data. so the maxx has all 3 of these? i thought i heard the opposite.

if so that is great news and it will be available unlocked soon i would imagine. but i dont think this is the case and that it is not fully compatible for cing especially not on hsdpa 3g data.

[George Knighton]

It'll probably take something like the V3x to break Cingular's 3G market open, not these dull pieces of crap from Samsung and LG.

The LG CU500 got my attention, and then the Samsung a707 after that, but neither of them has an important feature that works very well for me on my V3i.

Voice dialing.

[troyboy30]

The LG CU500 got my attention, and then the Samsung a707 after that, but neither of them has an important feature that works very well for me on my V3i.

Voice dialing.

agreed..I miss it greatly!

[Prevailing Wind]

i thought the gsm maxx wasnt' quad band. you need gsm 850 for voice right and then umts/hsdpa 850 and 1900 for 3g data. so the maxx has all 3 of these? i thought i heard the opposite.

if so that is great news and it will be available unlocked soon i would imagine. but i dont think this is the case and that it is not fully compatible for cing especially not on hsdpa 3g data.

The Telstra Motorola V6 RAZR MAXX most definitely has UMTS/HSDPA 850, because it's being offered on their "NextG" network, which is HSDPA and replacing their CDMA 850. Whether it also has HSDPA on 1900 or 2100 is speculative. And whether it has GSM 850 or not is also unclear.