I'm not a real fan of this and would prefer the RAZR maxx but there's no question that I'd choose it over the LG CU500.
Now the SYNC, that's a different ballgame.
Sheesh, looking at the CU500's pictures makes me want to throw up all over this keyboard. The V3xx design may be going on three years old but it's still one of the cleanest and most attractive out there.
Whatever floats your boat. I personally feel the design of the phone is fine, but it is the same design as the V3 with few changes, nice design. But everyone has the phone, nothing is there to differentiate this one from the V3, which my 12 year old neighbor has as well as their friends. That matchbox design on the front with "HI-SPEED" is laughable. Looks like it is definately designed for the masses. Nothing wrong with that if you like a phone that is geared toward this demographic, and if you are one of those people.
Now your 'make me want to throw up" over the LG Cu500 is fine too. At least it doesn't look the same as every other phone out there. Like the V3, V3i, and V3xx does, they look almost the same. I personally feel the LG Cu500 looks good and everyone that see's it does too. I personally think it looks better than the V3 and the V3xx, but like I said whatever floats your boat. To each their own. I know one thing, the LG Cu500 3D stereo speakers is about as good as it gets, and the Samsung A707 can't touch it. Not even close. Hopefully the V3xx has some nice speakers at least.
It looks like Moto is gearing their products with a cool design and with the least amount of features as possible with the least almount of overhead as possible. They are not as innovative as they used to be on the US Gsm side. The V3 was very innovative, since this phone came out, it seems like they geared their whole line up on thin designs and weak features to sell in mass. That is fine, to make money and I understand it, since I own a business of my own, but I often find when a company loses it's ability to create innovative products and innovate on their own, like Moto used to be, they are never the same company. Usually they are worse off in the long run, in the short run it's great. Every company has thin phones, this is nothing new, but Moto is treating it like it is. They put "HI-SPEED" on the front of the V3xx like no other phone has high speed data, give me a break.
They created the thin design, and have not had a innovative product since the original V3 on the GSM side within the US. The MAXX is a good phone with a good UI and features, so why isn't it here in the US on the GSM side of things? Because Moto is all about the bottom line. Period. Why would they put a Qualcomm chip with HSDPA in a new design like the MAXX when they don't have too, when the V3xx will sell just as well. Makes good business sense, but when you are always looking at the bottom line sometimes you lose what got you there in the first place. You cannot say the same for their competitors.
There is a interview with Ed Zander that the states when referring to the then Samsung Blade on sprint" I can do that tomorrow' when asked about the phone. He then states "but why should I put a Quallcomm ship in the phone and drive up my overhead when I can paint it a different color and sell for a higher profit margin and not hurt my bottom line". Now I don't have the interview, but that was the basic jist of it.
Note: List of so called innovations on the US GSM side of Moto:
1.) Black V3
2.) The V3 with I tunes Hence the "V3i" and slighty better camera, with
still no EDGE.
3.) Pink V3
4.) Blue V3
5.) Red V3
6.) Dolce and Cabanna designer V3.
7.) Slvr, no edge, weak camera. But thin.
8) Rokr, old model with I tunes added. no other features new.
9).KRZR, Nice phone, with just EDGE. No UMTS. Better than previous
models.
10.) Pink Slvr. Same as above, different color.
11.) Motorola V365, nice phone, weak camera, with EDGE.
This is the best that Cingular and Motorola have to offer? How is the above mentioned innovative in any way, shape or form? Quite simply there not. Period, end of story.
The V3 is the best selling phone ever. But Moto has run that into the ground. It is a sad day when my 14 year old nephew reconizes that the V3 is dated and old, and don't want it. I used to consider Moto at the cream of the crop in quality and features. Now I consider them with cheap and featureless. The old saying goes" innovate or die" is so true. Time will tell.
Last edited by iamthedudeman; 12-03-2006 at 01:27 AM.
Consultants have credibility because they are not dumb enough to work at your company.
Managers are like cats in a litter box. They instinctively shuffle things around to conceal what they've done.
If you give a man a fish he will eat for a day. But if you teach a man to fish he will buy an ugly hat. And if you talk about fish to a starving man then you are a consultant.
...it is definately designed for the masses. Nothing wrong with that if you like a phone that is geared toward this demographic, and if you are one of those people.
I wonder if you had a few more minutes to think about it, if you would have posted this. It might sound a little more snobby than you intended.
... Moto is gearing their products with a cool design and with the least amount of features as possible.
I understand your point of view, but if LG and Samsung want to take the market share away from Motorola then they need to realise that their newest offering still do not have as many features (that the typical user has need of) as the Motorola Razr.
Something that works very well on the recent Razr iterations is the voice commands/voice dialling. LG and Samsung have nothing like it, and to the typical commuter relegated to hands-free operation while driving in traffic, this puts the Motorola very far ahead of the game when picking a phone for everyday use.
User: Pushes headset button.
Phone: "Say a command."
User: "Name dial."
Phone: "Say the name."
User: "Miles Rapoport."
Phone: "Which number?"
User: "Mobile."
Phone: "Mobile. Calling."
Last edited by George Knighton; 12-03-2006 at 10:25 AM.
Reason: Added voice sequence
I wonder if you had a few more minutes to think about it, if you would have posted this. It might sound a little more snobby than you intended.
I understand your point of view, but if LG and Samsung want to take the market share away from Motorola then they need to realise that their newest offering still do not have as many features (that the typical user has need of) as the Motorola Razr.
Something that works very well on the recent Razr iterations is the voice commands/voice dialling. LG and Samsung have nothing like it, and to the typical commuter relegated to hands-free operation while driving in traffic, this puts the Motorola very far ahead of the game when picking a phone for everyday use.
User: Pushes headset button.
Phone: "Say a command."
User: "Name dial."
Phone: "Say the name."
User: "Miles Rapoport."
Phone: "Which number?"
User: "Mobile."
Phone: "Mobile. Calling."
Agreed. Now add the 2nd generation ObeyMoto to that (which the V3xx is going to have) and it's like this:
User: <pushes voice key button>
Phone: "Say a command."
User: "Call Jessica Mobile."
Phone: "Calling Jessica Mobile."
Or
User: <pushes voice key button>
Phone: "Say a command."
User: "Check Status."
Phone: "Battery 60 percent. Network 4 bars. Normal coverage."
Among other things you can have it bring up your text messaging box (to write a text), go to voicemail, go to camera, redial the last number called, send voice note, send email, PTT connect to a friend, etc.
Until a Samsung or LG can do that with the same feature set as the V3xx it's definitely superior especially when you include the xx's 3.6Mbps HSDPA. Motorola may lack in the tech. features compared to their phones but they seem to be making up for it in creature comforts that make their phones more useable.
They created the thin design, and have not had a innovative product since the original V3 on the GSM side within the US. The MAXX is a good phone with a good UI and features, so why isn't it here in the US on the GSM side of things? Because Moto is all about the bottom line. Period. Why would they put a Qualcomm chip with HSDPA in a new design like the MAXX when they don't have too, when the V3xx will sell just as well.
The RAZR maxx only needs a band or two and Cingular software. It already has UMTS 850 for Telstra's network in Australia. There is nothing major in the way of Cingular that could stop them from offering this handset (barring an exclusivity agreement with Verizon [see below]).
As for Motorola bringing it to America, they are in the form of the CDMA V6e for Verizon (Verizon to Get it's Own MOTORAZR maxx), which will obviously have a Qualcomm chipset.
Originally Posted by iamthedudeman
There is a interview with Ed Zander that the states when referring to the then Samsung Blade on sprint" I can do that tomorrow' when asked about the phone. He then states "but why should I put a Quallcomm ship in the phone and drive up my overhead when I can paint it a different color and sell for a higher profit margin and not hurt my bottom line"
That was Ron Garriques, the head of mobile devices at Motorola. He was obviously confused as Verizon's RAZR V3c had already been released with a Qualcomm chipset, upping the costs over the GSM V3. The RAZR V3m was close to release and the KRZR K1m/RAZR maxx V6e were headed for testing when he gave the interview. He's a pencil pusher who only knows about the phones when it's time to talk to investors. I wouldn't hold onto that as evidence of your conspiracy theory as Motorola already refuted Mr. Garriques' words.
I wonder if you had a few more minutes to think about it, if you would have posted this. It might sound a little more snobby than you intended.
I understand your point of view, but if LG and Samsung want to take the market share away from Motorola then they need to realise that their newest offering still do not have as many features (that the typical user has need of) as the Motorola Razr.
Something that works very well on the recent Razr iterations is the voice commands/voice dialling. LG and Samsung have nothing like it, and to the typical commuter relegated to hands-free operation while driving in traffic, this puts the Motorola very far ahead of the game when picking a phone for everyday use.
User: Pushes headset button.
Phone: "Say a command."
User: "Name dial."
Phone: "Say the name."
User: "Miles Rapoport."
Phone: "Which number?"
User: "Mobile."
Phone: "Mobile. Calling."
I know what it is, I had it on my MPX 220 almost three years ago! Like I said" innovative". LG and Samsung have 3g phones with HSDPA, QVGA screens, QVGA video recording, stereo speakers, micro SD, smartphones such as the HTC and Samsungs. Voice dialing is not on lists because no uses it. Really. I never used it on my MPX 220. Why if you have a bluetooth headset would you need it? It takes more time to try and voice dial than it takes to take your one hand and hit what, three buttons at the most. Let's see, menu, contacts, person you are calling. I think HSDPA and decent cameras and QVGA screens are more important. I think Samsung and LG see it that way. If they can put a guallcomm chipset that can do HSDPA and you don't think they can do voice dialing. Come man, you are really reaching here.
Agreed. Now add the 2nd generation ObeyMoto to that (which the V3xx is going to have) and it's like this:
User: <pushes voice key button>
Phone: "Say a command."
User: "Call Jessica Mobile."
Phone: "Calling Jessica Mobile."
Or
User: <pushes voice key button>
Phone: "Say a command."
User: "Check Status."
Phone: "Battery 60 percent. Network 4 bars. Normal coverage."
Among other things you can have it bring up your text messaging box (to write a text), go to voicemail, go to camera, redial the last number called, send voice note, send email, PTT connect to a friend, etc.
Until a Samsung or LG can do that with the same feature set as the V3xx it's definitely superior especially when you include the xx's 3.6Mbps HSDPA. Motorola may lack in the tech. features compared to their phones but they seem to be making up for it in creature comforts that make their phones more useable.
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It seems you missed the whole point of my post. I am not talking about the V3xx. It sounds like a good phone. It also seems Moto cut a few corners and delivered this phone instead of the MAXX. Probably just as nice as the Samsung A707 or the LG Cu500. The Samsung has a QVGA screen, and the LG Cu500 has 3d stereo speakers. The V3xx has 3.6 HSDPA and voice dialing. Each have their own strengths and weaknesses. To say that the V3xx since it has voice dialing is is a better phone is reaching, alot. The Samsung has a better camera also. The above mentioned are more important to most people than voice dialing. Alot of manufacters dont put that feature on their phones anymore because people don't use it or need it since bluetooth is such wide spread. Voice dialing is a old and outdated tech. My Siemens SL56 had it. Lol Like I said reaching.
The RAZR maxx only needs a band or two and Cingular software. It already has UMTS 850 for Telstra's network in Australia. There is nothing major in the way of Cingular that could stop them from offering this handset (barring an exclusivity agreement with Verizon [see below]).
As for Motorola bringing it to America, they are in the form of the CDMA V6e for Verizon (Verizon to Get it's Own MOTORAZR maxx), which will obviously have a Qualcomm chipset.
That was Ron Garriques, the head of mobile devices at Motorola. He was obviously confused as Verizon's RAZR V3c had already been released with a Qualcomm chipset, upping the costs over the GSM V3. The RAZR V3m was close to release and the KRZR K1m/RAZR maxx V6e were headed for testing when he gave the interview. He's a pencil pusher who only knows about the phones when it's time to talk to investors. I wouldn't hold onto that as evidence of your conspiracy theory as Motorola already refuted Mr. Garriques' words.
I am not talking about CDMA in the US for Moto. Since Qualcomm chipsets for CDMA is not expensive for Moto. That is why you see alot of new Motos on Sprint and Verizon. CDMA is not very cost prohibitive for Moto to do. Hence the disparity is technology in the GSM side as opposed to the CDMA side. Moto and Qualcomm just signed a pact to deliver WCDMA chipsets to Moto, just three weeks ago.
This is a new development. Right after this you see the V3xx. Happen by chance. I think not. Just look at the outdated phones in Cingulars line up. The only new Motos in Cingulars line on the GSM side is new colors for the RAZR. Blue RED, and a low end phone with VGA camera and just EDGE.
Read this interview and tell me what he says did not come to pass with GSM phones in the USA?
Quick: How many Moto's in cingulars lineup have both a megapixel camera and EDGE? NONE! Not only Cingulars line up but in any US GSM phone. Prove me wrong. Name one. Go ahead. How innovative and cutting is that not to have just one phone with a megapixel camera and EDGE in the same phone? Cutting EDGE technology at it's finest. Samsung and LG can't match that feature, no doubt about it.
Conspiracy theory, yeah right. You are delusional to think other wise, the proof is in their line up and any US carriers lineup for that matter. Right in front of you, plain as day. Goes right alone with what he is saying in this interview. Perfectly. Just a pencil pusher, the head of the Mobile division of Moto. Ha haa Lol. your funny. Looks like he was spot on in this interview as to Moto's game plan and future planning. Just look at cingulars lineup. The proof is in the lineup. Matches perfectly.
He isn't just a pencil pusher, he calls the shots in the mobile division of Moto. Nice try.
This article was Feb of 06. Almost a year ago. the Maxx and the Verizon V3c were not even close. Regardless I am talking about the GSM side in the USA. Not CDMA. And I never mentioned nothing about verizon or their phones. Quallcomm just made a deal with Moto, so I don't see how you come up with such stuff about Verizon. We are not talking about CDMA here, GSM. Read it again and then do me a favor and look at Cingulars lineup of Motos as well as T-mobiles.
Why if you have a bluetooth headset would you need it? It takes more time to try and voice dial than it takes to take your one hand and hit what, three buttons at the most.
Pardon my ignorance if I'm being ignorant, but how does Bluetooth help you keep from taking your eyes off the road to make a call? The only Bluetooth headsets I have ever used will go to the phone's menu system or to the speakder independent voice dial in the case of the newer Motorolas.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what am I missing?
I think HSDPA and decent cameras and QVGA screens are more important.... Come man, you are really reaching here.
De gustibus non est disputandem. I think that to me, right this moment, speaker independent voice is more important that the camera and HSPDA.
However, your thoughtful comments, together with the comments of another user in another thread who says that the battery life of this particular WCDMA/GSM hybrid is a lot better than I was led to believe, will probably cause me to take another look at the Sync instead of waiting for the new Motorola.
I dunno, we'll see how I feel when I have my hands on the phone in the store later in the week.
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply in such depth.
Pardon my ignorance if I'm being ignorant, but how does Bluetooth help you keep from taking your eyes off the road to make a call? The only Bluetooth headsets I have ever used will go to the phone's menu system or to the speakder independent voice dial in the case of the newer Motorolas.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what am I missing?
De gustibus non est disputandem. I think that to me, right this moment, speaker independent voice is more important that the camera and HSPDA.
However, your thoughtful comments, together with the comments of another user in another thread who says that the battery life of this particular WCDMA/GSM hybrid is a lot better than I was led to believe, will probably cause me to take another look at the Sync instead of waiting for the new Motorola.
I dunno, we'll see how I feel when I have my hands on the phone in the store later in the week.
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply in such depth.
Bluetooth doesn't. Never said it did. How hard is it to hit three buttons and use speaker phone? Are you going to be doing this while going 60 on the turn pike? come on man. Stop at a stop light and hit your three buttons and make your call. Use your bluetooth headset and your hands free. Answer a call hitting one button using your bluetooth headset and your hands free. Last time I used voice dial I don't remember it working that well while driving. It takes longer to try and say who you are trying to call than to hit three buttons. Also last time I recall it doesn't help you answer a call, does it? Voice dial is useless. There is a reason most phone manufactures don't add this feature anymore. You don't think they could not add this feature? Also Moto is not the only phone manufacturer to add this feature. Nokia has this on alot of their phones in the USA.
HSDPA is a much usefull feature. Data compared to voice dial is a no contest. I think I made my points very clear. There is no mistaking that Moto is severly lacking on the GSM side in the USA.
Oh yeah your welcome.
Last edited by iamthedudeman; 12-04-2006 at 10:30 AM.
I wonder if you had a few more minutes to think about it, if you would have posted this. It might sound a little more snobby than you intended.
I understand your point of view, but if LG and Samsung want to take the market share away from Motorola then they need to realise that their newest offering still do not have as many features (that the typical user has need of) as the Motorola Razr.
Something that works very well on the recent Razr iterations is the voice commands/voice dialling. LG and Samsung have nothing like it, and to the typical commuter relegated to hands-free operation while driving in traffic, this puts the Motorola very far ahead of the game when picking a phone for everyday use.
User: Pushes headset button.
Phone: "Say a command."
User: "Name dial."
Phone: "Say the name."
User: "Miles Rapoport."
Phone: "Which number?"
User: "Mobile."
Phone: "Mobile. Calling."
Yeah, sorry bud, but Samsung has had speaker-independent voice dialing in every single CDMA phone since 2002. They had the first phone with Speech-To-Text in North America (P207), and will also have the first with Voice Signal 3.0 next year. The Motorola suite is just Voice Signal, the same thing Samsung has been using before them. Why Samsung refuses to include it in their GSM handsets is beond me.
Originally Posted by iamthedudeman
Samsung has a QVGA screen, and the LG Cu500 has 3d stereo speakers. The V3xx has 3.6 HSDPA and voice dialing. Each have their own strengths and weaknesses. To say that the V3xx since it has voice dialing is is a better phone is reaching, alot. The Samsung has a better camera also. The above mentioned are more important to most people than voice dialing. Alot of manufacters dont put that feature on their phones anymore because people don't use it or need it since bluetooth is such wide spread. Voice dialing is a old and outdated tech. My Siemens SL56 had it. Lol Like I said reaching.
First of all, the Samsung A707 DOES have two stereo speakers, the sound comes out of the front flip side grills.
Second of all, voice dialing IS an important feature and has come a long way since the SL56 days. No training is required today (and has been since the SPH-A500 on the CDMA side).
dudeman, why do you insist on spreading these lies? I mean you say things that aren't REMOTELY true. I don't understand how your mind absorbs information and processes it in such a fashion.
Originally Posted by iamthedudeman
I am not talking about CDMA in the US for Moto. Since Qualcomm chipsets for CDMA is not expensive for Moto. That is why you see alot of new Motos on Sprint and Verizon. CDMA is not very cost prohibitive for Moto to do.
So you’re implying that it’s cheaper to produce CDMA handsets than GSM? How can this be when royalties are owed to Qualcomm for every CDMA handset sold? Do you realize the raging battle that’s gone on between handset manufacturers and Qualcomm over this issue for years now?
Originally Posted by iamthedudeman
Moto and Qualcomm just signed a pact to deliver WCDMA chipsets to Moto, just three weeks ago. ... This is a new development. Right after this you see the V3xx.
Right after? The V3xx and RAZR maxx were announced in July!! They’ve been in development since 2005 most likely. How do you connect the Qualcomm agreement to these handsets?
Originally Posted by iamthedudeman
Just look at the outdated phones in Cingulars line up.
Yes, the keyword being Cingular. Cingular decides what is offered on their network, not Motorola or Samsung or SE or Nokia.
Originally Posted by iamthedudeman
This article was Feb of 06. Almost a year ago. the Maxx and the Verizon V3c were not even close.
Verizon’s RAZR V3c was available on December 5th, 2005. Ron Garriques said he had no need to do what Samsung did when Motorola had already done it! The RAZR V3m, the V3c’s upgrade, was in the final stages of Verizon testing and on its way to release. The KRZR K1m was being tested, the RAZR maxx V6e was on its way to testing. All of this was taking place as Garriques said those words. All Qualcomm-inside, each product alone refuting his claims.
If that isn’t a testament to this guy being out of the loop then I don’t know what is. He’s a businessman, a top executive. He is not hands on getting his knees dirty in the labs. He put his foot in his mouth when the company had already refuted his claims just like I said before. So please stop passing this on as evidence of your conspiracy theory.
dudeman, why do you insist on spreading these lies? I mean you say things that aren't REMOTELY true. I don't understand how your mind absorbs information and processes it in such a fashion.
So you’re implying that it’s cheaper to produce CDMA handsets than GSM? How can this be when royalties are owed to Qualcomm for every CDMA handset sold? Do you realize the raging battle that’s gone on between handset manufacturers and Qualcomm over this issue for years now?
Right after? The V3xx and RAZR maxx were announced in July!! They’ve been in development since 2005 most likely. How do you connect the Qualcomm agreement to these handsets?
Yes, the keyword being Cingular. Cingular decides what is offered on their network, not Motorola or Samsung or SE or Nokia.
Verizon’s RAZR V3c was available on December 5th, 2005. Ron Garriques said he had no need to do what Samsung did when Motorola had already done it! The RAZR V3m, the V3c’s upgrade, was in the final stages of Verizon testing and on its way to release. The KRZR K1m was being tested, the RAZR maxx V6e was on its way to testing. All of this was taking place as Garriques said those words. All Qualcomm-inside, each product alone refuting his claims.
If that isn’t a testament to this guy being out of the loop then I don’t know what is. He’s a businessman, a top executive. He is not hands on getting his knees dirty in the labs. He put his foot in his mouth when the company had already refuted his claims just like I said before. So please stop passing this on as evidence of your conspiracy theory.
You are brainwashed my friend. Plain and simple. It is you who has no idea what is going on. Sorry but if you can't see what I put in front of you, you truely are clueless on this subject. Really. Let me try again.
What did I say that isn't true?
Please point it out to me. I would like to hear it. CDMA is cheaper than WCDMA. Yes. This is why you don't see any UMTS or HSDPA handsets from Moto. Let alone EDGE. Just happenstance, huh. I don't think so. Read and weep.
Quote:"Motorola handset chief Ron Garriques told Reuters on Monday he hesitated to use Qualcomm's WCDMA chips, although the U.S. firm often is the first out of the door with such products, because the chips and license fees are expensive and consumers are not willing to pay a premium."
Is it not true that Quallcomm just made a deal and a partnership to produce these chips for their upcomming phones. Almost on the same day as the new chip announcement. No it's not. You need to have a partner ship in place to manufacter phones and provide the needed chipsets from that said provider, such as quallcomm. You don't need that deal for development and for a few phones for development. Just because the Maxx or V3xx were announce does not mean that they have a cheap chipset or the new Quallcomm chipset. That has no bearing on how or when they are to release a phone. To produce a phone and to develop one are two different animals. They are two different beasts. Again, another example that you don't know how a business is run.
More importantly, you should learn to read the whole post and whole article before typing. The interview was taken place at 3Gsm world congress. It was in reference to WCDMA phones. So your whole CDMA being cheaper this and hat has no bearing on this discussion. Regardless CDMA is cheaper, than WCDMA. I think I made that plainly clear to you by now anyway. And, on who is lying, please show me when Moto ever refuted claims made by the head of the Mobile division of moto.
"He put his foot in his mouth when the company had already refuted his claims just like I said before. So please stop passing this on as evidence of your conspiracy theory.[/QUOTE]
That is your quote. I own my own business and know quite a good deal of what is going on in this industry. You don't. That is plain to see.
QUOTE" "Do I really want to launch a WCDMA (3G) phone with a Qualcomm chip that drives up my bill of materials by $40, but which I can't sell for a higher price, and give up my profit margin?" he said."
is it not true that most GSM phones in the USA by Moto are lacking, like not one phone with EDGE and a megapixel camera in the same phone in the USA or North America for that matter. How do you explain that. How many phones are GPRS? Not even EDGE. How do you explain what he said in the article the man you claim does not know his own division has come to pass. Almost exactly. What he said was going to happen has happened. How you cannot see this is beyond me. I personally think you are confused on the whole subject, really I do.
More colors, itunes etc. Weak cameras. He is a good business man, lower operating costs, while increaseing price by making thin phones in different colors and adding gimmicks like itunes. He basically said this himself in the article. And that is exactly what happened. Conspiracy theory. Ok whatever. Why don't you explain this to us, since I don't know what I am talking about and you do. go ahead. I will wait.
I stated my argument quite well in my last post. It is not my fault that I have to explain it to you again.
You state that he is just a pencil pusher. No. He is the head of the Mobile division of Motorola. He knows exactly what he is doing. You simply don't know how a business is run, that is plain to see. What he states in the article is exactly what is going on at Motorola with GSM in the USA.
You dont know what you are talking about plain and simple.
Last edited by iamthedudeman; 12-05-2006 at 04:36 AM.
Yeah, sorry bud, but Samsung has had speaker-independent voice dialing in every single CDMA phone since 2002. They had the first phone with Speech-To-Text in North America (P207), and will also have the first with Voice Signal 3.0 next year. The Motorola suite is just Voice Signal, the same thing Samsung has been using before them. Why Samsung refuses to include it in their GSM handsets is beond me.
First of all, the Samsung A707 DOES have two stereo speakers, the sound comes out of the front flip side grills.
Second of all, voice dialing IS an important feature and has come a long way since the SL56 days. No training is required today (and has been since the SPH-A500 on the CDMA side).
I owned the A707, no it does not have 3d stereo sound or stereo speakers.
Last edited by iamthedudeman; 12-05-2006 at 04:38 AM.
Bluetooth doesn't. Never said it did. How hard is it to hit three buttons and use speaker phone? Are you going to be doing this while going 60 on the turn pike? come on man. Stop at a stop light and hit your three buttons and make your call. Use your bluetooth headset and your hands free. Answer a call hitting one button using your bluetooth headset and your hands free. Last time I used voice dial I don't remember it working that well while driving. It takes longer to try and say who you are trying to call than to hit three buttons. Also last time I recall it doesn't help you answer a call, does it? Voice dial is useless. There is a reason most phone manufactures don't add this feature anymore. You don't think they could not add this feature? Also Moto is not the only phone manufacturer to add this feature. Nokia has this on alot of their phones in the USA.
HSDPA is a much usefull feature. Data compared to voice dial is a no contest. I think I made my points very clear. There is no mistaking that Moto is severly lacking on the GSM side in the USA.
Oh yeah your welcome.
voice dialing is useless? No one uses it? It makes more sense to have to wait till you stop so you can hit 3 keys to make a call? Can you share what you're smoking please?
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The old saying goes" innovate or die" is so true. Time will tell.
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