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*YES*. It gives that lovely garbled voice quality--and Cingular uses it *all* the time on 380 (blue), not just when the network is especially busy. They seem to be doing it because the 380 network does not have enough capacity in So Cal (it may be different where you live), so they compress all the bandwidth to fit everyone on. Result is garbled calls, bad handoffs and one way conversations. The 170 network does not use it all the time. I used to notice it on that one on Sundays, when the network was very busy. I had a phone at the time where I couldnt disable it--and I could hear the quality degradation. But now, no more AMR!
Im having a problem with cingular i get "called failed" "network busy" all the time today it was fine yesterday. I need to be able to recieve and make calls without problems but today im having that problem. I have friends in East Bay and they said its fine over there but here in San jose,CA we are getting call failed anyone else having this problem? i saw once there was a page on cingular.com to report a network problem.
Definitely something going on locally. I am here in Los Gatos, near San Jose, and getting network busy on Blue. Orange network is fine. Switch to it if your phone allows.
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Originally Posted by CoRupT
Im having a problem with cingular i get "called failed" "network busy" all the time today it was fine yesterday. I need to be able to recieve and make calls without problems but today im having that problem. I have friends in East Bay and they said its fine over there but here in San jose,CA we are getting call failed anyone else having this problem? i saw once there was a page on cingular.com to report a network problem.
Im having a problem with cingular i get "called failed" "network busy" all the time today it was fine yesterday. I need to be able to recieve and make calls without problems but today im having that problem. I have friends in East Bay and they said its fine over there but here in San jose,CA we are getting call failed anyone else having this problem? i saw once there was a page on cingular.com to report a network problem.
I thought that Cingular's network in San Fran was supposed to be so awesomely stupendously wonderful?
I guess... its not.
That sounds like typical blue network behavior here in So Cal.
cingular standards are 92 trunks with amr-fr and about 1,000 or so with amr-hr.
setting your phone for amr-fr will cause congestion if there are a lot of calls using full rate. that is why i suggest making sure you are set to amr-hr to see if its congestion on the ater.
I dont care if I cause congestion. Its up to Cingular to provide enough bandwidth to deliver quality calls. They use AMR-HR *all* the time in So Cal, because the network isnt able to serve everyone using FR. So calls are garbled and drop handoffs and all that delightful stuff--while using HR.
Without it, calls are clear. Cingular needs to step up to the plate and provide enough network resources without using HR all the time. T-Mobile can do it, why cant Cingular?
how do you know tmobile does it? a good quality phone you can barely barely tell the difference between half rate and full rate. try a nokia 6230b. i use half rate all the time and its no issue.
I could hear it on TMobile on Sundays, like clockwork. This was on a Samsung X427m.
It might be true you can barely tell the difference in a strong signal area, but where I live usually gets over -100db on 380. That is weak enough for AMR-HR to garble badly.
The signal is stronger on 170 (-75 or so) but I could hear occassional metallic sounding glitches, so I could tell AMR-HR had kicked in.
I dont hear it anymore on my new EFR enabled Razr--not any day of the week. I dont even hear the garbling on 380, despite its weak signal.
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending how you look at it), that's what caused me to change to T-mo. Tried 30 times to call 9-1-1 after my car accident when I needed to, and 30 times it displayed "Network Busy" or "Call Failed"! Called Cingular afterwards, and the CSR had the nerve to ask, "Yo sho you dialin' 911 right? Yo push 9-1-1, den Send. Yo must be doin' sumpin' wrong, cuz it works fo me! Nothin's wrong with da network! Don't even say dat!")
No problems like that after switching (regarding both Network and CSR issues)!
wow.....nothing like quoting ebonics and sounding like a racist POS.
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Originally Posted by HappyBunny
*YES*. It gives that lovely garbled voice quality--and Cingular uses it *all* the time on 380 (blue), not just when the network is especially busy. They seem to be doing it because the 380 network does not have enough capacity in So Cal (it may be different where you live), so they compress all the bandwidth to fit everyone on. Result is garbled calls, bad handoffs and one way conversations. The 170 network does not use it all the time. I used to notice it on that one on Sundays, when the network was very busy. I had a phone at the time where I couldnt disable it--and I could hear the quality degradation. But now, no more AMR!
Don't get me wrong I am a big fan of moto BUT notice the majority of people complaining have moto's. Now, people with moto's HONESTLY tell me you experience the same thing with different phone models???
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Originally Posted by Isriam
how do you know tmobile does it? a good quality phone you can barely barely tell the difference between half rate and full rate. try a nokia 6230b. i use half rate all the time and its no issue.
06-26-2006, 15:07
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