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RM-314 Hits FCC N82 Shows US 3G?


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It talks about WCDMA 850 and 1900
But it was tested on GSM 850 and 1900

Dont get your hopes up
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Question N82 sibling: Mysterious RM-313

Folks,

But when I read the Test Reports, it suggests the otherwise...

The RM-313 with a dummy battery: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/...tive_or_pdf=pdf
The RM-313 with the working battery, charger:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/...tive_or_pdf=pdf

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The EUT is a 5-band (GSM850/900/1800/1900 and WCDMA Band I) mobile phone with GPRS, EGPRS and Bluetooth.


It is NOT what we hope for, i.e. WCDMA Band II (1900) and/or Band V (850). Then it turns to the worst...

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/...tive_or_pdf=pdf

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The EUT is a 4-band (GSM850/900/1800/1900) mobile phone with GPRS, EGPRS and Bluetooth.


No 3G at all
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https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=329024&fcc_id='QVVRM-314'

Third test report talks about WCDMA 850 and 1900. Does this mean a US N82 variant?


BlueNgu,

As Dr Tran mentioned, the reference to the limits for spurious radiated emissions measurements in WCDMA 850 / 1900 could be a typo because in 2.3 and 2.4, it specifically says GSM 850 and GSM 1900 test results.
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wow that does was WCDMA 850/1900. but its gotta be a typo.
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Does anyone know why this is another RM-### number? Is that something they always do with US market phones? It seems they already filed with the FCC with the RM-313.
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Folks,

But when I read the Test Reports, it suggests the otherwise...

The RM-313 with a dummy battery: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/...tive_or_pdf=pdf
The RM-313 with the working battery, charger:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/...tive_or_pdf=pdf



It is NOT what we hope for, i.e. WCDMA Band II (1900) and/or Band V (850). Then it turns to the worst...

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/...tive_or_pdf=pdf



No 3G at all


Did you see the section where they talk about WCDMA FILTERS

WCDMA II and WCDMA IV

I don't have great technical knowledge on this subject. I wonder if the filters are to enable use on those bands or maybe to filter out this freqs so they can do their testing?


Oh well you are probably right. They would have announced it if it was coming soon. I guess it is a typo.
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Does anyone know why this is another RM-### number? Is that something they always do with US market phones? It seems they already filed with the FCC with the RM-313.


BlueNgu,

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RM-??? is NOT a complete FCC ID of a particular certified / pending for certified terminal. Nokia used it internally as a product ID, e.g. RH-13 is a 6340i. You can check for that ID by *#0000# for most Nokia models. Then there are 3-letter code for the certification grantee.

For example, in this case, QVVRM-314...

QVV
is the Nokia office in Tokyo, Japan that filed for the certification
RM-314 is the N82 variant that is certified

Please note that a manufacturer may have different grantee codes like with Nokia, there are several codes for Finland offices (Salo, Oulu, Espoo, etc.), San Diego in the US, Germany, etc. I do not know the exact details but it may be different development teams around the world.
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Folks,

If the info at Nokia site is accurate, then it will dash our hope for a US 3G N82 completely

http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/N82

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The Nokia N82 is a GSM/WCDMA dual mode portable multimedia computer supporting EGSM 850/900/1800/1900/WCDMA 2100 HSDPA and WLAN or EGSM 850/900/1800/1900 for some regions.
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The current N82 is Euro 3G only. That said, remember it was demand for 3G that got us the N95-3. Maybe we'll get a 3G variant, or, even better, perhaps they can incorporate some of the N82's improvements (such as faster operation) through a firmware update for the N95-3, or into the upcoming touchscreen devices. It would be nice to have that xenon flash, though.
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Originally Posted by HC - NO "i"
Folks,

If the info at Nokia site is accurate, then it will dash our hope for a US 3G N82 completely

http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/N82


hmm, maybe US will get a cheaper version without the 3g chip?
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hmm, maybe US will get a cheaper version without the 3g chip?


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JohnInTheHouse,

*HUMOUR So I call it North American 3G minus T-Mobile USA
I hear you. But if we want to be absolutely precise, how about WCDMA Band II and Band V variant relatively more North American subscribers are looking for?
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that's exactly I wanted to do, as well as UMTS band IV
but once I pushed out this idea, the feedback was too horrible
that I'd use AWS instead of Band IV
to be precise, US 3G bands include 850, 1900, AWS

but there's a possibility T-Mobile may dump UMTS on AWS, and go directly to 4G on AWS
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