So is this required data plan a sure thing now? If it is, i'm sure Verizon will release these new smart phones after they implement the new requirement to make more money.

No one knows right now

Whether they implement it before or after, it's bad news for me. I want the choice to have it as an active feature on a monthly basis. Some months I'm travelling a lot and want it, some months I'm strapped inside at work the whole time and don't need it at all since we have wifi I can use at work.

its funny how people from the same message board talk about switching $800 unlocked phones like they are underwear, but if VZ charges $30 bucks a month for an unlimited data plan, its a deal breaker


can we go back to the omnia?

Its only going to be on phones in the future, not in the past. So if you have a i760 or Q etc, you won't be required, but phones like the Diamond and Voyager 2 if there is one will. The date this will begin is November 14.

Well the Voyager isn't a smartphone so it wouldn't require a data plan.

Amazing. Talk of higher plan costs, or mandatory data plan requirements, when the news is "Handset market stalls"?

"The world's top mobile phone makers fear further weakening demand after reporting third-quarter growth grinding to a standstill, with only Samsung Electronics gaining market share through price cuts."

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20081...andset_market_2

'Sure is lousy, living in the U.S., with U.S. wireless carriers and their service and phone offerings.

Don't get me wrong; I want the Omnia to be successful, because I think VZW needs a really top-notch phone with serious pocket PC capabilities. But, wow, do they have to hate their customers so much?

are you triying to interrupt the incoherent ramblings for WHAT! OH the subject of the form why do we have to graze through ten pages that have little or nothing to do with Omnia release date. no news I guess!
my I760 has screen shift hoping for this as replacement since its quarantined.

I have an LG3200...for the last 4.5 years with no text plan. I can't wait to get a nifty smart phone and go CrAzY texting and surfing the web and taking some pics and storing some data...and talking without hearing an echo, charging via a wall charger, not dropping calls from one quadrant to another and maybe taking a call INSIDE my house once in a while.

LG3200 = old and busted
Omnia / Storm / Touch Pro = very new definately hotter than what I got

I don't know if you read what I wrote earlier but VCast phones like the Dare and the Voyager, only in the future will require a VCast subscription just like smartphones will require a data plan.

I posted this in the touch pro thread to but though it would be good to post here to.
Here is a little training info for the Diamond and the Omnia. It at least lets you guys know its close.

woot, hopefully omnia release next month. Thanks again VZW-E

Since employee training for the Omnia starts on 11/15 and there doesn't appear to be online training for it yet (hence, no OLT marker)...

1 ) Does that mean all training will be issued on in-store/VZW networked computers and not online over the open internet?
2 ) Does that give us any inkling as to if the Omnia will be outed on 11/16?
3 ) Does that mean stores will have to have at least one Omnia by 11/15 for the training session?

KUDOS on the find!!!

thanks for that update VZW E!

does anyone know about the training process or how long it takes for them to release it once the training is over? thanks