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pitpim will not recognize my 8500 via bluetooth

I'm using the Zonet ZUB6201C dongle which uses the Widcomm drivers. I have XPSP2 native drivers disabled.

I have the phone and PC paired.

I set the phone to be

When I run bitpim and click the 'Find Phone' icon, I receive an error message saying

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No phone detected/recognized. Run settings?


when I click 'yes', I set my phone to the 8300. For COM port, I've tried COM 4 AND 5 as well as auto. After clicking ok and closing window, I get no messages (success or failour) but clicking 'Find Phone' results in the same thing again.

Any ideas for troubleshooting?
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First... forget using BitPim's FIND PHONE... it wont work since the VX-8500 isn't supported yet...

So you'll have to manually config...

Now, for me to get it to work with mine (widcomm v5 drivers)... I changed the Bluetooth Name on the phone from the default to "LGPHONE1"

When I paired the phone, my PC saw 3 usable services on the phone, so I picked each... "LGPHONE1 OBEX Object Push", "LGPHONE1 Bluetooth Modem" and "LGPHONE1 BT DIAG"

Prior to using BitPim, I must go into "My Bluetooth Places" on the pc... right click on LGPHONE1 BT DIAG and from the pop-up click on CONNECT... the system tray icon will turn green...

Start BitPim and manually configure it... Do this by clicking Settings from the Edit pull down menu. Use the Phone Type Box to select VX8300... Even if you know the "com port" DO NOT manually set it. Instead, click the Browse button to the right of the Com Port. A window will pop-up and scan ports. It will have 3 "sections" listing Available Ports, Ports Not Available, and Inoperable Ports. Select "BLUETOOTH COMMUNICATIONS PORT (COM X)" from the listing of Available Ports and Click OK.


Now, I have 2 listings of BT Com Port... one on com4 the other com5... To tell which one... either try one at a time in BitPim... OR... right click the Bluetooth icon in the system tray... from the pop-up go to Bluetooth Configuration (or Advanced Configuration)... See what is listed for Bluetooth Serial Port on the Client Applications tab...

I did that... and BitPim worked via Bluetooth for Contacts, Ring Tones, Pictures and the File System tab... (that is all I tried )
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thanks 4 the response.

I could not find where I can change the device name on the phone so in My Bluetooth Places\Find Bluetooth Devices on my PC, LG VX8500 is what is found. Clicking on that gives me 4 icons:

- Bluetooth modem on LG VX8500
- BT Diag on LG VX8500
- OBEX Object Push on LG VX8500
- Voice gateway on LG VX8500

I did as you said and connected to the BT diag. It tells me that I am now all set to use applications configured for use with COM4. And the system tray icon turns green.

By the time I fire up BitPim, the connection status changes to "not connected". As near as I can tell, this has nothing to do with BitPim - the connection consistently dies after about 45 seconds regardless.


I know way too little about the Bluetooth protocol to troubleshoot this from the PC end.

Any ideas?
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Same thing here, just right click and say Connect, then immediately go to BitPim and
do whatever it was that you were doing - transferring an MP3, image, etc...

It'll stay connected while it's transferring and then it drops the bluetooth connection
pretty quickly after it finishes. Right-click and reconnect again if you need to do
something else... if not, just close BitPim.
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Same thing here, just right click and say Connect, then immediately go to BitPim and
do whatever it was that you were doing - transferring an MP3, image, etc...

It'll stay connected while it's transferring and then it drops the bluetooth connection
pretty quickly after it finishes. Right-click and reconnect again if you need to do
something else... if not, just close BitPim.



I can't even get BitPim to recognize my phone... so reconnecting after the connection dies doesn't help me at this point.
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interesting... mine stays connected... no problems...

I've copied files (Video .3gp's...) as well as phone book... no problem... it stays connected until I exit BitPim...
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interesting... mine stays connected... no problems...

I've copied files (Video .3gp's...) as well as phone book... no problem... it stays connected until I exit BitPim...



I have a feeling I bought a crappy BT adapter - their tech support just told me they have had some incidents with defective units....

I hate playing the buy and return game over and again. What are you using?
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I have a feeling I bought a crappy BT adapter - their tech support just told me they have had some incidents with defective units....

I hate playing the buy and return game over and again. What are you using?
The PC I tried it with is a Thinkpad T41 that upgraded the Modem card to be an IBM Modem/Bluetooth combo card.. it uses a Generic CSR bluetooth chipset.. and "hacked" Widcomm v5.1.0.1100 drivers...
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The PC I tried it with is a Thinkpad T41 that upgraded the Modem card to be an IBM Modem/Bluetooth combo card.. it uses a Generic CSR bluetooth chipset.. and "hacked" Widcomm v5.1.0.1100 drivers...


Obviously this won't work for me...

How/why have you hacked the Widcomm drivers?

Anyone have any suggestions for a "working" BT adapter?
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Obviously this won't work for me...

How/why have you hacked the Widcomm drivers?

Anyone have any suggestions for a "working" BT adapter?

I used My Bluetooth Places to find what comm port I was using. That's all I used it for - I don't have to connect BT Diag service to use BitPim.

But I do have to follow the other steps - which is manually configuring the com port in BitPim:

"Start BitPim and manually configure it... Do this by clicking Settings from the Edit pull down menu. Use the Phone Type Box to select VX8300... Even if you know the "com port" DO NOT manually set it. Instead, click the Browse button to the right of the Com Port. A window will pop-up and scan ports. It will have 3 "sections" listing Available Ports, Ports Not Available, and Inoperable Ports. Select "BLUETOOTH COMMUNICATIONS PORT (COM X)" from the listing of Available Ports and Click OK.

Just select the correct Bluetooth Com Port from the window after you click the Browse button. The little icon on the lower left of the status bar should then turn from Red to Green (and it'll show the com port you manually selected in the lower left).

I haven't done much with BitPim and the 8500 yet - mostly just messing with my contacts. But it seems a bit flaky to me.

BTW, my BT icon doesn't trun green when I use BitPim via BT with my 8500.
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Obviously this won't work for me...

How/why have you hacked the Widcomm drivers?

Anyone have any suggestions for a "working" BT adapter?

The Ambicom BT2000C-USB dongle I first got, uses a CSR chipset... the 2nd one I got uses a Broadcom chip. Now this IBM laptop has a CSR chipset...

But since first getting bluetooth... using it to synch my iPAQ... I've always had steady connections... Using any of the 3 bluetooth "dongles" I have... file transfers with my Moto E815 or iPAQ 2215 have been rock solid... I've only used the Chocolate with this laptop so far (having only got the chocolate yesterday at work, around 11:20am??)...

Hacking of the widcomm drivers is/was because the Widcomm drivers have a "license check" built in them... limiting you to the drivers released by your hardware maker only (no, you can't use the Ambicom supplied Widcomm 1.4.34 drivers with my IBM bluetooth... nor can you use the IBM supplied Widcomm 1.4.34 drivers with the ambicom dongles.. etc.. )... Pain in the rear... so, rather than having to remember which is which... hack the licnese check out, and use one driver set...

Btw, Zonet dongles are known to work well!! so make sure you have the latest drivers they supply, and if they have suspected "bad lots" of dongles, get them to replace it under warranty... Their web site has the 4.0.1.2101 drivers, which are supposed to be "stable"...

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Prior to using BitPim, I must go into "My Bluetooth Places" on the pc... right click on LGPHONE1 BT DIAG and from the pop-up click on CONNECT... the system tray icon will turn green...

Looks like this was a one time thing...

Right now, I just started BitPim without doing that, and clicked "get phone data" and the bluetooth connection started (system tray icon went blule/green), and it pulled the data..

With bitpim still open, the system tray icon stays green, and I can keep working in bitpim... doing what ever I need... exit bitpim, and the system tray icon eventually goes back to blue/white...

Btw, it works the same when using my desktop PC with ambicom BT2000C-USB dongle (newest serial number range, uses Broadcom BCM2035 bluetooth radio)...

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Looks like this was a one time thing...

Right now, I just started BitPim without doing that, and clicked "get phone data" and the bluetooth connection started (system tray icon went blule/green), and it pulled the data..

With bitpim still open, the system tray icon stays green, and I can keep working in bitpim... doing what ever I need... exit bitpim, and the system tray icon eventually goes back to blue/white...

Btw, it works the same when using my desktop PC with ambicom BT2000C-USB dongle (newest serial number range, uses Broadcom BCM2035 bluetooth radio)...

I thought my icon was not turning blue/green - I'll have to double check. I noticed once that it was blue/green, but I thought that was because I had just hit my Bluetooth mouse when reaching for my coffee.

BTW, I too connected the BT Diag up initially - and then never had to again.
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Having the same problem

I am having the same problem. I am also alittle confused. Do you have to load the MEK drivers (from the MEK cd, which I have) to my laptop to use bitpim with bluetooth only (laptop has bluetooth dongle with widcom)? I was wanting to only use bluetooth and not use the USB cable. I have the latest bitpim v9.15 (which has the vx8500 selection) and v4 firmware on the phone. I have not loaded the MEK drivers to my laptop. I was hoping I did not have to load the drivers and just load and use bitpim. Any help would be great. Thx.
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Problem update

I am able to pair with the vx8500, and then connect to the BT diag. But when I try to detect phone in bitpim, I get the do not recognize/detect window and the BT diag connection drops out. More information is I am using a Kensington BT dongle with v4 widcomm on a IBM thinkpad. I still have not loaded the MEK drivers, tho.

Also, when I do a browse under bitpim settings in the comm port line. The comm port identified when I connect the the BT diag (comm 6) is not even in the list browse list.

thanks in advance

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