• Freedom Fires Back with Free Phones (that you might actually want)



    Freedom Mobile is running a new promotion to counter The Big Three's move to eliminate data caps: for as little as $70/month, they'll also give you unlimited/throttled data, but will throw in a free phone as well.

    The icing on the cake here is that of the free devices on offer there are at least two that you might actually want:

    Apple iPhone XR - 64 GB - requires $75/month plan
    Samsung Galaxy S9 - 64 GB - requires $70/month plan

    The catch? You'll have to commit to 2 years of service; Not sure what happens to your device if you cancel before then. And in case you were wondering, $75 currently gets you a monthly data bucket of 15 GB, with a bonus of 3 GB for 24 months. $70 gets you 12 GB with the same 3 GB bonus until you "pay off" your free phone.

    Source: Freedom Mobile via Mobile Syrup

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    Andrew Currie has been blogging about mobile phones since 2001, smartphones (depending on how you define them) since 2002 and smartwatches since 2014.
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    Comments 12 Comments
    1. Samshares's Avatar
      Samshares -
      too bad those of us that are on the $50 EveryWhere plan, can't take advantage of the phones at a decent price.

      Now the question is, what is the cost of the device if you leave before 2 years....what is the buy out...if its great, then it may be worth opening and closing the line to get the discount one should be able to normally without having to jump loops.
    1. hfta's Avatar
      hfta -
      From what a store agent told me and thereafter confirmed by Freedom customer service, Freedom only offers the AB$0LUTE phones on the Big Gig/Text+Talk $60, $70 & $75 plan. They will not offer $0 phones on the $90 or $115 plan. I said this was silly as the consumer is paying more money. The response was these higher ($90/$115 plan) give great value already, therefore, no $0 phone and if a phone is needed, you are required to set up a tab or pay full cost.

      Focusing on the $115 plan, the price point is still too high not for the value, but for the coverage. It's $120 less $5 for auto-pay so $115. This gives you 30GB of data, 3 bonus GB's which expire after 24 months (confirmed) and you get a 5GB data bucket to use when outside of the Freedom network for both Canada & the USA.

      You can use your unlimited voice portion of the plan on both sides of the border but lets not forget, if in the USA or a partner network within Canada, data is limited to 5GB and thereafter, confirmed by the Freedom customer service agent will be throttled between 128 - 256Kb/s.

      As for the voice portion, coverage is still paltry in Canada and if you could truly roam on a partner network, many could live with this but there's still fringe areas which the device/sim will try to maintain a Freedom signal, it's not strong enough so the device is useless.

      Using Bell as an example, they offer a 20GB all-inclusive plan for $125 BYOD and have some $0 phone options as well, nothing required to be paid upfront. It's a 2 year term and the plan is shareable where you can add additional lines (for a minimal fee) which share the unlimited minutes/data both in Canada/USA (no 5GB cap - like Freedom). Great if you have multiple lines in your household. This plan allows you to go over your data and it's billed at $10.00 per 100MB, up to 500MB ($50 charge) and thereafter, you pay $0.12 per MB ($120 per GB). Expensive but the option is there for multiple line sharing so in the end, dependent on the number of lines, even if you go over, there's a significant savings.

      Alternatively, you can opt for the 20GB plan which doesn't charge overage and you're paying $125 for Canada/USA all-inclusive calling/data bucket and if you exceed, you're not paying extra but unfortunately, you can not add additional "share" devices.

      These plans do offer subsidy and $0 phones like Freedom.

      Freedom is heading in the right direction but the coverage is the "key" factor here, not the plan offerings. When speaking with Ahmed in customer service, he was saying that Shaw plans within the next 24 months to introduce Shaw Mobile and it will be the parent brand with Freedom Mobile being the sub-brand. Similar to Rogers/Fido. So I think they want to gain a large subscriber base and potentially provide future offerings for migration.

      In the end, great value but limited coverage - if you can't use it, you're paying for nothing.

      As for phone costs, I hear they tab the full cost of phone which for the XR is $1,029 and the S9 is $849. This is pre-tax and goes does in 24 equal payments. Should you leave, you pay the remaining device balance + applicable taxes.

      In the end, you have 3 main carriers in Canada - Bell, Telus & Rogers. They have their affiliated sub brands and will not allow a established or transitioning entrant to mess with their business. If Freedom comes out with a WOW factor plan or turns on coverage in other areas of Canada which they are currently doing, the consumers win but the major companies will price match to ensure it's a streamlined cost across the board and as a consumer, it's all about cost/coverage and usability.
    1. ma678's Avatar
      ma678 -
      It seems Freedom Mobile disable online hardware upgrade self service.

      Sent from my ONEPLUS 6T using Tapatalk
    1. Mr.Peppermint's Avatar
      Mr.Peppermint -
      Quote Originally Posted by acurrie View Post
      Attachment 163448

      Freedom Mobile is running a new promotion to counter The Big Three's move to eliminate data caps: for as little as $70/month, they'll also give you unlimited/throttled data, but will throw in a free phone as well.

      Apple iPhone XR - 64 GB - requires $75/month plan
      Samsung Galaxy S9 - 64 GB - requires $70/month plan
      Prices listed above are wrong
      Apple iPhone XR requires an $80 per month plan ($75 is after digital discount)
      Samsung Galaxy S9 requires a $75 per month plan ($70 after discount)
    1. Boz1's Avatar
      Boz1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by hfta View Post
      Using Bell as an example, they offer a 20GB all-inclusive plan for $125 BYOD and have some $0 phone options as well, nothing required to be paid upfront. It's a 2 year term and the plan is shareable where you can add additional lines (for a minimal fee) which share the unlimited minutes/data both in Canada/USA (no 5GB cap - like Freedom). Great if you have multiple lines in your household. This plan allows you to go over your data and it's billed at $10.00 per 100MB, up to 500MB ($50 charge) and thereafter, you pay $0.12 per MB ($120 per GB). Expensive but the option is there for multiple line sharing so in the end, dependent on the number of lines, even if you go over, there's a significant savings.
      Regarding sharing the Bell plan you mentioned above, how do you add a second line. See the chat below where I was asking about it. For clarification, I was asking about what is shown at https://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Cell_ph...ns/Share_plans

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      Jessica: Hi! Im a Bell Mobility sales specialist. How can I help you today?

      You: How much to add an additional line to the "Bring your own device - Canada & U.S. calling + 20 GB of shareable data $125.00/mo." plan?

      Jessica: Hi

      You: Hi

      Jessica: Sounds Awesome! You are in the right place. I will help you with the best deals.

      Jessica: Before we proceed could you please confirm the province you would like to get the service for?

      You: Ontario
      You: If I switch to Bell on that plan, how much extra to add a 2nd line?

      Jessica: Thank you.

      Jessica: Let me help you with the plan cost

      Jessica: The plan cost will be $105 + $105 = $210+taxes with 10GB data on each line

      Jessica: You will have US/Canadawide calling for both the lines.

      You: Why did you give me the price for a plan I didn't ask about? And if it's sharable, how is the plan cost double for having 2 lines? Is there a supervisor you can transfer me to?

      Jessica: May I know why you need supervisor?

      Jessica: I have given you the plan cost available for two lines

      Jessica: We don't have share plans anymore

      You: Read my question and look at the answer you gave. Show that to a supervisor.

      Jessica: The plan cost for two lines will be the same

      Jessica: The plan cost have been revised and share plans won't be same as before

      Jessica: For two lines you will be getting same plan with data for each line

      Jessica: You have asked for 20GB data and Us/Calling

      Jessica: I have offered you the same

      You: How is that possible. Why is it called "Sharable"?

      Jessica: 10GB data on each line will be 20GB data and US/Canadawide calling for both the lines.

      You: Transfer me to someone else that can help.

      Jessica: Not to worry. I can redirect you to the correct team who can help you. Please contact 1-800-667-0123. They are open from 8:00am to 9:00pm EST, Monday to Friday and 9:00am to 6:00pm EST, Saturday and Sunday. I am sure they will help you.

      You: No. I don't want to call. I used chat for a reason!

      Jessica: I would like to inform you the term sharable is only to share your data plan. You can share this 20GB data between 2 lines.

      Jessica: However the plan cost will be same as the Bell plans have changed.

      Jessica: You can check this change in the Bell website

      Jessica: https://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Cell_ph...ns/Share_plans

      Jessica: As second line discount you can get $10 OFF on second line.

      Jessica: The plan cost for 2 lines will be $200+taxes
    1. Boz1's Avatar
      Boz1 -
      I tried again, but got a similar result:

      Michael: Hi! Im a Bell Mobility sales specialist. How can I help you today?

      Michael: Hi, Good day!

      You: How much per month is it to add an additional phone line to the "Bring your own device - Canada & U.S. calling + 20 GB of shareable data $125.00/mo" plan shown at https://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Cell_ph...s/Share_plans?

      Michael: Welcome to Bell.

      You: Thanks.

      Michael: Sounds Awesome! You are in the right place. I will help you with the best deals. Before we proceed could you please confirm the province you would like to get the service for?

      You: Ontario

      Michael: Could you please confirm if you have any services (TV/home phone/home internet/cell phone) with Bell now?

      You: No.

      Michael: Heartfelt welcome to Bell!

      Michael: Are you looking for a new number/

      You: Yes

      Michael: Great!

      Michael: Would you like to bring 2 lines to Bell?

      You: Yes, but using the plan I mentioned above.

      Michael: Sure.

      Michael: Let me get you the plan details.

      Michael: The plan includes,
      Unlimited anytime Canada-wide minutes
      Unlimited Canada-wide text, picture and video messages
      Call Display, Message Centre, Conference Calling and Call Waiting
      Unlimited access to Canada's largest Wi-Fi network, including participating McDonald's, Tim Hortons, Indigo and Chapters locations
      20 GB Data

      Michael: 20GB data for each line.

      Michael: Canada US calling and texting.

      Michael: This package is offered at just $125+$125= $250+ taxes per month.

      Michael: I would also like to inform you that there will be a onetime activation fee of $40 on your first month bill

      Michael: How does the plan sounds?

      You: Not good. What does "sharable" mean? I thought there would just be a small charge for a 2nd line, sharing the same data.

      Michael: We have a plan with Canada US calling with 10GB and unlimited data for each line and you can share between both.

      Michael: Overall you would get 20Gb in your plan.

      Michael: Can we go with that?

      You: But what about the specific "Bring your own device - Canada & U.S. calling + 20 GB of shareable data $125.00/mo" plan I asked about?

      Michael: That plan would have 20Gb of data for each line.

      You: Then answer my previous question that you ignored. What does "sharable" mean?

      Michael: It means you can share the data within 2 lines in your account.

      You: So then why are two full lines of service required? This plan is under "Family Plans". Doesn't that mean that to share the included data, only a small additional charge is required for an additional line?

      Michael: This plan has 20GB of data for each line, if you want 40GB you can get this plan, If one of the person is large user of data it would be sufficient and would be the best value for your money, let's say if one wants more data like 30GB and the other uses 10GB this would be the best plan.

      Michael: You can share this way.

      Michael: If you both share equal amount of data or you both need just 20Gb of data you can use the 10GB data plan.

      Michael: You would get 10GB data for each line.

      You: That won't work for me. Bye.
    1. gameon123's Avatar
      gameon123 -
      Unfortunately not unbelievable, Boz. Yeah it's $125/mo. Yes it's shareable. Sure add a tablet to share = $10/mo. Add a 2nd phone/line =$85/mo. Thus $125 + $85 = $210. And there's your $105/mo x 2. (Disclaimer: I may not have unearthed all the T&C's buried there)
      And where'd they dig up those pathetic scripts - King Tut's tomb?
    1. Boz1's Avatar
      Boz1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by gameon123 View Post
      Unfortunately not unbelievable, Boz. Yeah it's $125/mo. Yes it's shareable. Sure add a tablet to share = $10/mo. Add a 2nd phone/line =$85/mo. Thus $125 + $85 = $210. And there's your $105/mo x 2. (Disclaimer: I may not have unearthed all the T&C's buried there)
      And where'd they dig up those pathetic scripts - King Tut's tomb?
      Okay. Thanks for verifying.
    1. hfta's Avatar
      hfta -
      I stand corrected. They changed their terms & conditions about 2 hours after releasing the new plans. I was able to secure a 20GB Canada/USA plan and add a secondary phone for $25 to this plan making it a total of $150. Received notification (30 days) the other day stating the lines need to be:

      - Separated onto their own accounts within 30 days ($125 each) - 20GB each + Canada/USA calling
      - Kept as a "family plan" add a line at $85 so - $210 total - 20GB sharable + Canada/USA Calling
      - Cancelled under 15 day buyer remorse (no minutes) due to change in terms by Bell

      Decided to cancel as price was too high and no real savings. Usual tactics by the BIG 3 goblins LOL!
    1. MattOnDemand's Avatar
      MattOnDemand -
      Quote Originally Posted by hfta View Post
      Decided to cancel as price was too high and no real savings. Usual tactics by the BIG 3 goblins LOL!
      Does this mean we will see you back at Freedom soon??



      Sent from my iPhone using HoFo
    1. Boz1's Avatar
      Boz1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by hfta View Post
      I stand corrected. They changed their terms & conditions about 2 hours after releasing the new plans. I was able to secure a 20GB Canada/USA plan and add a secondary phone for $25 to this plan making it a total of $150. Received notification (30 days) the other day stating the lines need to be:

      - Separated onto their own accounts within 30 days ($125 each) - 20GB each + Canada/USA calling
      - Kept as a "family plan" add a line at $85 so - $210 total - 20GB sharable + Canada/USA Calling
      - Cancelled under 15 day buyer remorse (no minutes) due to change in terms by Bell

      Decided to cancel as price was too high and no real savings. Usual tactics by the BIG 3 goblins LOL!
      Wow! Thanks for the follow-up. I'm sure sorry that happened to you!

      My goal in asking these questions is to try to find a "reasonable" plan for my daughter and her boyfriend, who live in Canada, but visit the US two to three times monthly. I gave her a FreedomPop phone with no monthly cost that she's been using and has fit her US usage needs well for a while now, but that free plan is finally ending, and we'll have to start paying for her to have service when she visits the US.

      They are both currently on the Bell 10GB plan from around Christmas, 2017, which they like, but it's too expensive to use in the US. It started out at $60/mo (~$68 total), but has gone up to $65/mo (~$73 total).

      I thought maybe if there was a cheap way to add a 2nd line to the Bell "Bring your own device - Canada & U.S. calling + 20 GB of shareable data $125.00/mo" plan, it might not be too much more expensive than what they are currently paying. But despite how it looked on the Bell website, that's not how it works!

      So now I'm thinking about proposing the Public Mobile $60 plan that includes 8.5 GB (@ 3G Speed) Canada Data + 2 GB (Additional) US Data + Unlimited Talk & Text Canada/US. The big advantage would be having just one phone to keep track of, which is much nicer than the FreedomPop phone, that has service that will work in both Canada and the US, including 2GB of US data. The disadvantage would be having only 8.5 GB of LTE to use in Canada (vs 10GB on the Bell plan), and not only that, but throttled to 3 Mbps.

      Oh, well. We'll see.
    1. Mr.Peppermint's Avatar
      Mr.Peppermint -
      Quote Originally Posted by hfta View Post
      I stand corrected. They changed their terms & conditions about 2 hours after releasing the new plans. I was able to secure a 20GB Canada/USA plan and add a secondary phone for $25 to this plan making it a total of $150. Received notification (30 days) the other day stating the lines need to be:

      - Separated onto their own accounts within 30 days ($125 each) - 20GB each + Canada/USA calling
      - Kept as a "family plan" add a line at $85 so - $210 total - 20GB sharable + Canada/USA Calling
      - Cancelled under 15 day buyer remorse (no minutes) due to change in terms by Bell

      Decided to cancel as price was too high and no real savings. Usual tactics by the BIG 3 goblins LOL!
      Isn't changing terms like that a major violation of wireless code?
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