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  1. Thread: 5g

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    I agree. N71/B71 is not spread out to every site...

    I agree. N71/B71 is not spread out to every site (e.g. 4 out of 30 sites in my area). Similarly, phones are expensive. Until they have more bands of 5G and more coverage in general... This is more...
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    Old school below the line billing sucks. ...

    Old school below the line billing sucks.

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    This is true. In much of the UP, TMobile exists...

    This is true. In much of the UP, TMobile exists primarily on the highway and a site in towns. At&t and Verizon typically are and have been relied on for quite a while and have enough coverage to...
  4. This is true, and why in general services are...

    This is true, and why in general services are deployed in places like NYC/LA/SF. Vast majority of TMobile customers are in the city.

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    Also funny claiming 2 to 4x faster than LTE...

    Also funny claiming 2 to 4x faster than LTE peaking at 227Mbps. The author must be in an area with little LTE spectrum. I've hit more that on 2 carrier LTE.

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  6. Uber and many tech businesses in general are a...

    Uber and many tech businesses in general are a loss leader style of business, which is based on getting it out there to attract more business and investors so that it can become sustainable. Amtrak...
  7. Best I've hit on Tmobile is 275Mbps on LTE. Can...

    Best I've hit on Tmobile is 275Mbps on LTE. Can typically in that area hit 240. Best I've hit on AT&T is 296Mbps

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  8. Yup. T-Mobile's rural is weak. National parks...

    Yup. T-Mobile's rural is weak. National parks in CA in general are or have been typically Verizon here due to their old 850MHz build. Building in federal park land is very difficult and expensive....
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    It will help those that seek '5G' (many urban...

    It will help those that seek '5G' (many urban elites) wish to jump on the 5G bandwagon will have their chance and hit the 5G unused spectrum. Won't take too much before it maxes, but until there are...
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    Yup - these were also the original 'few' sites...

    Yup - these were also the original 'few' sites that have/had PCS some have a decent amount of AWS. Many areas didn't get any deployment until B12/B71 with VoLTE. Spacing was too far/poor for...
  11. This is correct. Much of the use for 5G is not...

    This is correct. Much of the use for 5G is not so much in the handset market, but IoT devices. These will effectively be the newer standard from anything such as kiosks to driverless vehicles and...
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    You're right... Looks like they only bumped my...

    You're right... Looks like they only bumped my download from 110 to 220. Upload didn't increase. Spectrum over provisions. Typically hit closer to 230 on download and 12 on upload.
    Sent from my...
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    Mostly western UP counties have mid Band. ...

    Mostly western UP counties have mid Band. There's a couple of other locations... But that's it until they pull in Sprint.

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    Personally.. I could really care less about 5G. ...

    Personally.. I could really care less about 5G. I prefer keeping decent service at a good cost.

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    Reminds me of 3G to 4G. Interestingly enough, my...

    Reminds me of 3G to 4G. Interestingly enough, my work AT&T phone shiws 5ge now at home. It gives my 27Mbps down, 1Mbps up. Best speeds on At&t here match TMobile.. However At&t has fewer sites,...
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    Look at the 5G coverage map. Almost all of the...

    Look at the 5G coverage map. Almost all of the U.P. is 4G LTE ONLY and is B12/B71. There are a few locations that have PCS/AWS as 5X5MHz in the UP along i75 and a couple other locations. The...
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    In my area (most of the US is similar) TMobile is...

    In my area (most of the US is similar) TMobile is B2, B4, B12 and B71. Some areas have B66 / AWS3.
    This was today on B12 5x5 only. 164643

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    Typically doesn't do much in my area. B12/B71 is...

    Typically doesn't do much in my area. B12/B71 is hardly used, even with carrier aggregation.
    Phones (at least my LG G7) camps on B4 or B2 and typically aggregates with B2 or B4. When I do force...
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    In general, if I follow the logic of using an LTE...

    In general, if I follow the logic of using an LTE 'base band' for service... then my range will be ~1/10 of what is shown, 'unless' I force LTE to B71. This is because there are ~30 LTE sites in my...
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    Much of the UP is 'dark' as it is B12/B71 only.

    Much of the UP is 'dark' as it is B12/B71 only.
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    Similar to T-Mobile's traditional LTE coverage...

    Similar to T-Mobile's traditional LTE coverage map... this one is also over exaggerated.
    B71 doesn't reach my neighborhood, yet it is covered as 5G... many others are similar.
    What I find really...
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    When I did use this... I was hitting 120-150Mbps...

    When I did use this... I was hitting 120-150Mbps down and 30-50Mbps up at my house. When I 'took it on the road', was 260Mbps down, 57Mbps up. Spectrum offers 1Gbps down service here , but I don't...
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    I agree. As I've mentioned... this is primarily...

    I agree. As I've mentioned... this is primarily a sell of 'me first', even though it doesn't really mean much. From a 'user' perspective, it would be much better if they pushed B71 with all of...
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    I don't really see T-Mobile pushing the fact that...

    I don't really see T-Mobile pushing the fact that they have a 'lot' of 600MHz spectrum... just the fact that it travels further than 700/PCS/AWS. In my area, they have AWS, PCS, 700 and 600. ...
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    In general... 5G with ~10MHz of spectrum is more...

    In general... 5G with ~10MHz of spectrum is more for marketing/bragging rights than it is for anything else.
    Until 5G NR71 is paired with spectrum from Sprint ... (mostly dense urban areas) it will...
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