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    smartphones on inpulse

    now I have seen some rather anti smartphones on prepay verizon...but look at it this way..what if, someone has bad credit and cant afford the 1000 fee to loan them for a the service as they said "intrest approval collection"...I was just wondering could I get any smarthpone or pocket pc and dial *22888 or w/e and have it work like that...

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    Sorry you did not get an answer sooner, but you absolutely can. I have an XV6700 on Inpulse and it is a TREAT. .99 a day for EVDO Data, only charged on the days I use it. No charge for Voice, except the days I use (which in my case is never, I only use for DATA.)
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    Some Additional Info On Smartphones on Inpulse

    Some good news I would say. I have had some issues with the XV6700 I procurred off Ebay. After two trips to UT Starcom for replacement screen (White Screen) and then it came back and the digitizer went, back to UT, then got it back on Friday to have the Digitizer go bad on Sunday (Great Story so far huh?) I went to a Verizon store on Sunday afternoon and they swapped me out with a new XV6700. (BEfore you ask, Social Engineering is a great skill to have is all I have to say)

    OK the point is, I have had to 2 ESN changes through InPulse Customer service. NO PROBLEMS at all. I've had both CSRs and TEch Support people change this phone without a word. And they knew what it was. CSR: "OK Sir, I see we have a XV6700 we are changing correct?" ME: "Uh Yeah...?"

    So , while I may have been lucky twice in a row, I have certainnly become more relaxed on what is going on. I even had an issue where I had changed my Plan from the Standard .99 A Day whther you Voice Call or Not, to the NEw Plan thats .99 Only if you Talk. But come find out after a week it had not taken. So my $free $10 was eaten up. I called up and they were great, told me my ESN had not taken the Plan change and they would switch it, and credit me the $10 back. But, they could not get the ESN to switch the Plan. So paranoid I said leave it alone for now. Well come find out, I was not being charged ythe.99 a day for DATA use (I have used everyday, Phone Online, Push Email, SlingMobile Player, Teathering my Samsung Q1b and SONY UMPC's) so I figured heck, if I get the .99 a day for Voice taken, and never be chrhged for DATA, it works for me. Well when I clled back to get the $10 credit applied (decided to wait till phone came back from UT) they got the ESN and Plan changed squared away. Still, I have never bveen charged for DATA. Just checked this morning. Ive had acct for 3 weeks.

    So long story yes, but I hope you guys can extract some info to guide you in your InPulse/Smartphone Setups. So far, Knock on Plastic, THIS IS SWEET!!

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    1) VZ never say something like "INPulse cannot allow Smart/PDA phones". Only some posts here gave the unofficial claims. What VZ might have said is: smart/pda phones are not supported on INPulse, that's because these phones cannot use Mobile Web.

    2) VZ says it clearly: .99/24hrs for "Mobile Web". It never say anything about data charges. I.e., if you don't use MW, you won't be charged.

    Why the greedy VZ is so generous on this? Don't forget, you're paying at least $15/mon, not free, even though it sounds incredible compared to the insanely expensive postpaid deals. The catch is: VZ may close this door anytime it wants, because data, other than the useless MW, is never advertised for INPulse. Enjoy it while it lasts.

    If you don't have to have EV-DO speed, PP is even much better - free data and the lowest voice rates without any daily fee.
    Last edited by Fixup; 10-29-2007 at 03:14 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixup
    Enjoy it while it lasts.
    Yep you never know what might happen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixup
    1) . The catch is: VZ may close this door anytime it wants, because data, other than the useless MW, is never advertised for INPulse. Enjoy it while it lasts.

    If you don't have to have EV-DO speed, PP is even much better - free data and the lowest voice rates without any daily fee.
    I have noticed you have this same position on a number of posts / threads regarding this particular matter. Your position seems to be that people doing this are making some mistake or shouldnt be doing it because there is some downside or "catch" as you call it. A catch, to me, would be something will occur that can cause me detriment or harm should this situation end. To me this nothing more then say someone finds that there is a restaurant is allowing me to come to their smorgasbord everynite and eat for FREE. And I continue to do so. If I can eat for free for 2 days, 2 months or two years, I am perfectly happy. Where is this "catch" you speak of? One day II walk in and the Owner says sorry Wireless, No More Free Food". I will then sit down, look at the menu and decide what I want to eat, at what price and order. Or I may decide I dont really like what is on the menu and since I have to now pay for it, I will go down the street and eat elsewhere. But there is no "catch". I was eating for FREE for all that time.

    At the present I could not be happier with current Inpulse program as it works. Where I would rather it last for years, if it doesnt I have lost NOTHING. I incur no damage, no loss, nothing. Except saved a ton of money, and that is certainly no catch.

    I will also add, as to your comment about the Mobile Web being charged, but nothing has ever been stated about just connecting and using EVDO, very smart. That appears to be the exact situation. I just "assumed" that they would bill the .99 a day for DATA useage. So, so far, I have been on Inpulse for 3-4 weeks, using EVDO Data connection for everything from streaming my Slingbox to my 6700, teathering my UMPCs and regular EMAIL checking and WEB Surfing on my XV6700. I am violating no published TOC / TOS that I have seen, or that anyone has mentioned. My costs are nothing more then making sure I update the required minimum top off which by the way brings up another interesting point. Even though I must make a required refill/ top off of $15 every 30 Days, this money is doing nothing but rolling over in my acct as I am not using it ever for voice, and am not being charged for DATA. So should this plan ever cease to function as it does now, I would just sell the acct off on Ebay with the included money/airtime and, of course, lose maybe 10-15%. (Remember, another little bonus, NO CONTRACT)

    So in closing, I see no "catch", no "downside", just one great opportunity that I am enjoying and thankful to the guys that figured this out. And hopefully, by the time this does stop, my Primary carrier, which is TMOBILE, will have 3G firmly in place and active and I will not have a need for this anyway.

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    I never meant that people should not doing this. My posts can be summarized as these: 1) This is not a free service, VZ is guaranteed to get $15 every month, even if you might get it for free if you can sell the minutes later. 2) It is incredible, especially from super-greedy VZ. 3) VZ might close this door anytime because it is not an advertised feature.

    So enjoy it (I do), just don't feel grateful to VZ and be prepared with a back up plan.

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    I have a palm treo that was used my cosuin gave it to me. He bought it straight up, and he didnt want it anymore he deactivated it by verizon and i want to activate it on pay as you go(inpulse) but it says the esn isnt clear or something but it wont let me activate it i never called verizon(i dont like talking to them). PLEASE HELP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixup
    I never meant that people should not doing this. My posts can be summarized as these: 1) This is not a free service, VZ is guaranteed to get $15 every month, even if you might get it for free if you can sell the minutes later. 2) It is incredible, especially from super-greedy VZ. 3) VZ might close this door anytime because it is not an advertised feature.

    So enjoy it (I do), just don't feel grateful to VZ and be prepared with a back up plan.
    No no FIXUP you made this clear to all.. please note DOOR CLOSED.
    and thank you FIXUP for the heads up on this and other items you have told us about.

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    Thatb is correct, the party is over. One of our original discovers of this little "deal" had a discussion with a Verizon higher up regarding get an ESN change done and the facts are definiteky in. VERIZON has implemented in their activation system that any Smartphone / PDA Phone will not be activated or have its ESN changed over to, on IN Pulse. It seems that those that were lucky enough to get one activated are OK for now, but if you were to need to do an ESN change to another Smartphone Device you would be SOL. I can only hope my 6700 continues to run well.

    Be advised, I still think that a EVDO capable phone will still be able to reap some benefits. The ability to use the system, FOR NOW, to teather does not appear to be crippled. So any phone that can be teathered is what you need to be looking for, PROVIDED it is NOT a Smartphone.

    Also, one last thing. I am able to Teather using QNC on my NOKIA 6235 without any problem. So if QNC speeds of around 14.4 kbps works for you, there ya go.

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    Looks like the whole ride has been ruined now.

    In the future we need to come up with some kind of secret code to discuss such matters, and not spread the word in the forums too widely. It seems that various idiots end up calling Verizon and telling them WAY TOO MUCH info that gets them to thinking they need to shut down various services.

    Welp. I guess it's over.

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    VZ closed the door because they saw me saying that it was very easy to use a smartphone to get EVDO DUN.

    With some smartphones, such as the new 6800, you can change its ESN, so you can still get it activated on INPulse. The most popular Q, unfortunately, cannot change ESN.

    The thing VZ cares the most, is EVDO tethering, that's why they put a 5GB cap for postpaid users. For prepaid users, they don't have such control. So, it is not that they don't want smartphones on INPulse, they do, actually, that's why the door was open, they hope you'd buy stuff on the phone. Smartphones do not use much bandwidth. What they don't want is EVDO DUN, which is so easy to do on smartphones by PDANet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cellphone-guy
    Looks like the whole ride has been ruined now.

    In the future we need to come up with some kind of secret code to discuss such matters, and not spread the word in the forums too widely. It seems that various idiots end up calling Verizon and telling them WAY TOO MUCH info that gets them to thinking they need to shut down various services.

    Welp. I guess it's over.

    CG
    Do you really think that their only way of monitoring their network usage is based upon reading something on a message board, or listening to random phone calls?

    I guarantee they've known that you could activate smart phones and tether on Prepay for a long while, the lost revenue just didn't warrant the effort to block it until recently.

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    No they don't lose any revenue but get more. When they did not block it, at least they get $15 or more from me. Now they block it, they get nothing from me, because I never ever pay $60 (data) + $40 (voice) + $15 (DUN) to the super greedy Verizon.

    Network service is not like gas or water that do cost more if you use them more. As long as the bandwidth is enough, more or less use of network does not make any difference.

    As I said, the only concern is if too many users use DUN to stream audio/video, then the network will get trouble to hit the bandwidth limit. As long as DUN can be prevented, Verizon loves to get some extra $15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixup
    No they don't lose any revenue but get more. When they did not block it, at least they get $15 or more from me. Now they block it, they get nothing from me, because I never ever pay $60 (data) + $40 (voice) + $15 (DUN) to the super greedy Verizon.

    Network service is not like gas or water that do cost more if you use them more. As long as the bandwidth is enough, more or less use of network does not make any difference.

    As I said, the only concern is if too many users use DUN to stream audio/video, then the network will get trouble to hit the bandwidth limit. As long as DUN can be prevented, Verizon loves to get some extra $15.
    Actually there is a cost to the carrier associated with usage. That usage figures into their network planning, and necessitates more bandwidth. Same thing with TXT, minutes, data whatever. Using data at $15/month is not a money making proposition for the carrier, and i guarantee that cost, including support costs, are greater than $15/month.

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