View Poll Results: Does Your "#" Key ALSO Function as the Pencil-Key (Cut/Copy/Paste) in the SMS App?

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  • Yes! ONE button does TWO things!

    25 73.53%
  • No! I have to manually go into "Options" to activate Cut/Copy/Paste Mode!

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Thread: N82 #-key / Pencil Key / Copy/Paste Issues?

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    Exclamation N82 #-key / Pencil Key / Copy/Paste Issues?

    hey everyone - i just wanted to put up a quick poll to see if anyone was having any issues with the "#" button on their n82 - not so much the physical button itself, but the way in which it functions

    it seems like a lot of us are having issues when drafting new sms/mms/emails - hitting the "#" key seems to initiate upper case letters in predictive text AND activate the copy/paste mode simultaneously (this is what poses the problem)

    others are having issues in other applications (hitting the "#" button acts as the pencil key changing the way the d-pad functions - specifically, the center button of the d-pad - see this thread for more details)

    as a quick test - would you mind trying the following?

    - open up a new sms (making sure youre in t9 predictive text mode)
    - enter in the phrase: "Hello Marksky" (case sensitive) - but instead of spelling out "Marksky" and adding it to the words in your dictionary, just add the "sky" to the end of "Mark" (i hope this isnt confusing)
    - basically, you want to add some letters to an existing word in which the first letter is capitalized and the word is in the middle of a sentence (i do this when im sms'ins silly things like "Thats so Keithish" - words i want to put in the message, but dont necessarilly want in my t9 dictionary)

    the usual method for this is to do the following:
    - type "Hello"
    - hit the space key
    - hit the # key to get the upper case "M"
    - type "Mark"
    - hit the right d-pad
    - type "sky"

    BUT - seeing as there is no pencil-key - it appears as though some n82 owners (including myself) are having to do something different to get the words we want

    when we hit the "#" key after the initial "Hello" is typed - it not only activates the upper-case letter, it ALSO activates the cut/copy/paste feature! so basically:
    - you type "Hello"
    - hit the space key
    - hit the "#" key to get the upper case "M"
    - type "Mark"
    - hit the right d-pad
    - "Mark" disappears (oh no!) because that "#" press ALSO activated the cut/copy/paste feature!
    - in this case, after we type "Mark", we have to hit the space key (so that Mark is no longer underlined), then delete the space so we can add more characters to the end of his name)

    i know there is at least one person for whom this is not the case - i was wondering if we could parse out whose phone does NOT function like this and which product region they have

    so, if your phone's # key does NOT function as the copy/paste button (pencil key), please let us know what region firmware youre using (and, id also like to ask whether your shutter sound goes off when the phone is in silent - because if it doesnt - i think ill change my firmware to your region )

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    Just to chime in here. I have Emerging Markets version and I do not have cut/paste from the "pencil" key.

    While I do not have the # cut/paste function I do not have the "bug" relating to the "pencil" key disabling the D pad.
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    I'm Taiwan FW I have this issue. Basically the # acts as a caps-lock or something so in my case I noticed I couldn't hit the center select, but effectively all buttons that are assigned to something with the # button are effectively neutered. Ugh.

    The worst of all of this is I went with TW firmware so I could get:
    a) taiwanese keypad
    b) silent shutter

    but now it seems I *may* have to jump ship to HK firmware... although the benefit is I get pinyin input.

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    Mine works fine because I can switch between text entry and Copy/paste function. The only issue I have if I activated Copy/Paste function and then disabled it, d-pad selection key would not work in the menu. (workaround: switch to another app or standby and back)

    Short click: switch between T9 and ABC, abc etc...
    Long click: Enable Copy/Paste function
    Short click from Copy/Paste function disables the function

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    Quote Originally Posted by klas

    Short click: switch between T9 and ABC, abc etc...
    Long click: Enable Copy/Paste function
    Short click from Copy/Paste function disables the function
    I have Euro3 working fine also but Short/Long click are different then in your's:

    Short click: switch between T9 and ABC, abc etc...
    Hold #: Enable Copy/Paste function, while holding left/right D-PAD to select text and then softkeys (also while holding the #) to copy/paste
    When I release the # key the functions return to normal operations.

    PS I also had the same problems with the E51 I had before, a full format or flashing with the same firmware and then full format again helped solve the problem.

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    I just tried it and mine works without a problem.

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    i'll flash it when the new firmware is out, doesn't bug me too much

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    i think im gonna try reflashing when i get home - it annoys the heck out of me (heavy texter)

    watch i end up frying my phone over this

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    Same problem here. Short press on "#" activates copy/paste function, and only way to turn it off again is to go to standby and back.

    Furthermore, might be related, might not: In Nokia Maps, if I press "#" once, it keeps zooming out until I hit "*". It being my first phone with Nokia Maps, I do not know if this is the expected behavior.

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    Kricket

    What product code and firmware are you running?

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    ^ im using the euro3 product code right now (although it did it euro1 as well and with the original malaysian firmware the phone came with)

    i only changed the product code - i believe there is only one firmware version - 10.0.046

    but dmo brought up an interesting observation - both of us have garmin xt installed and both of us have the problem - i also noticed in the other thread that domlee0 has the issue and his profile says he has garmin xt

    so id like to ask (for both those of you with and those of you without the problem) - do you have garmin xt installed on your phone?

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    I have Garmin XT installed aswell.

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    No Garmin software for me and mine is working normal.

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    here's how it worked on mine...

    type word... if you press the # key a few times the softkeys disappear.. you can then scroll to a word and it will allow you to copy it... and then you can also paste it....

    when you are done press and hold the * key (STAR KEY) it'll open up the symbols and also exit out of copy and paste mode...

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    well, I hope reflashing works for you Kricket. I'll try it myself is there instructions how to do that?

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