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    Quote Originally Posted by B0000rt
    Property taxes here in New Jersey are astronomical compared to what there is in Toronto.
    You haven't been to CT yet? I amazed at how high they are, but I guess that is what we get for electing Democrats all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRC72
    You haven't been to CT yet? I amazed at how high they are, but I guess that is what we get for electing Democrats all the time.
    How are they in CT? They approach 3% or so here in Jersey depending on your township etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by B0000rt
    How are they in CT? They approach 3% or so here in Jersey depending on your township etc..
    Property taxes are unreal here. A 1200 sq ft house can run you on average about $5000. They were talking about instituting a 3% cap here, but nothing has been done yet. To many municipal leaders were complaining that it would hurt the towns. Nobody likes to cut spending around here.

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    Down here in sunny Florida, property taxes on my 1280 square foot home are $1200 per year.

    The rest of the state's coffers is financed by hotel taxes and other tourism-related industries. Thanks for the low taxes, Canadian tourists!
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    I'm a Canadian, and I voted on the poll before I saw the "no Canadians" note...sorry guys

    And I'm sure it will come as no surprise which way I voted. I am a left-leaning socialist, hippie liberal after all...just like all my fellow Canadians...

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    Quote Originally Posted by frail
    Being a Governor and a Mayor (almost 8 years [when combined] of relevant executive experience) is more directly related to the Presidency than being a Senator with nowhere near the charge of a state Governor (or town Mayor, for that matter) with only 140 actual working days in Congress. In fact, Palin's time as Governor alone gives her more relevant experience than Obama's 140 days of committee work.

    The Obama camp attacking Palin's perceived lack of executive experience will only shine the spotlight even more so on Obama's actual lack of executive experience.
    My Republican local newspaper did a story on Palin and even said she has less experience. The ONLY people I've heard say she has just as much or more are blind Republicans who just wanna argue. I'm done proving people wrong on that issue. She has been exposed as having less experience. Her experience will be an attack point for the Dems. Not because of her experience, but because McCain is a hypocrite for getting a VP he met only once, and for picking someone with less experience than Obama after attacking Obama on experience his whole campaign since being the presumptive nominee. It's truly pathetic. Just because I'm a Dem doesn't mean I can't admit when I'm wrong. If she was a good choice, I'd admit so. If she had more experience, I'd admit it. If Romney or someone else was picked I wouldn't have anything to say about it.

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    It would be unwise for Democrats to attack her for her lack of experience. They should actually downplay the entire thing and focus on only McCain. VPs don't change Presidential outcomes, but if you keep talking about it then it may.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B0000rt
    I just love your "If you're not with us, you're against us" mentality.
    Exactly. The thing is I'm not against the Republicans in here. I am voting for Obama because I like him, his message, and the direction he wants to take us. If you disagree, then alright, you are free to do so. What I don't like is when you prove something to someone and because they are loyal to their party they want to spin stuff six ways from Sunday.

    My current problem is this. Republicans claim McCain made an amazing choice by picking Palin for VP. If it's such a great choice, why hasn't anyone heard of her before yesterday? She wasn't on the short list and no one suspected her of being picked (why would they, she doesn't have the experience McCain talks about). If shes so perfect for the job, why did McCain only meet her once in his life before his scrambling decision to pick her as VP? If McCain is the man of experience and judgment like he says he is, why did he pick someone that he doesn't know for VP? Why did he pick someone with less overall experience than the person he has been attacking?

    No Republican can answer those questions. They only spin it by saying she has executive experience, which is a hollow excuse. The Republicans now look stupid and cannot use the experience card any longer, bad choice on their part. They just lost their main argument against Obama. Also, many women are already reporting that this is a pathetic attempt at using a gimmick to win the White House. CNN got FLOODED yesterday with emails, bashing McCain's choice. I read a lot of the posts, they were pretty hilarious. It's obvious to everyone that the reason McCain picked Palin is not because she is some seasoned vet like Biden, or that she has some revolutionary new vision, it's simply because shes a women, and the Republicans know us Democrats are gonna show up in record numbers come November and they need to try and steal as many votes away from the Hillary crowd as possible. I personally hope that people are not that stupid to buy into this gimmick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huskyfan23
    It would be unwise for Democrats to attack her for her lack of experience. They should actually downplay the entire thing and focus on only McCain. VPs don't change Presidential outcomes, but if you keep talking about it then it may.
    That's another risk he took that we have discussed. VP choices have little to no effect on the outcome. I guess he's willing to risk it and take a chance that it will work.

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    obama man i have so many reason not to vote for him... he hasnt stood on the same issue... he changes his responses depending on who hes talking to. He cant form a simple sentence when his TelePrompTer is off(also digs himself deep). He is for HIGHER TAXES AND BIGGER GOVERNMENT! hes against drilling, he uses the word change but never says what it means (his slogan should be "change my mind") he is scary, has a ton of radical associations, extreme leftist, only popular cuz the media worships him, hes a basher, he has writers for everything, he cant even use the toilet unless his writers tell him how. As a guy i like him but he has to slim of a resume to be PRESS.... i could go on for hours. hes the american idol choice thats the only thing that has kept him into if... american never look deep into the guy just what the media tell him

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    Quote Originally Posted by huskyfan23
    It would be unwise for Democrats to attack her for her lack of experience. They should actually downplay the entire thing and focus on only McCain. VPs don't change Presidential outcomes, but if you keep talking about it then it may.


    The top dems may not hit her hard but the 'kool-aid drinkers' will.


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    i love how they say the reason that mccains vp pick shouldnt be there is her low experience but obama has just as small? haha... but fine you elect this guy, but you will see the most radical decisions in your life... the true BHO will come out... it will be total horribleness as we watch our nation move to communism all because this guy looks COOL and his writer are good yay

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRC72
    Property taxes are unreal here. A 1200 sq ft house can run you on average about $5000. They were talking about instituting a 3% cap here, but nothing has been done yet. To many municipal leaders were complaining that it would hurt the towns. Nobody likes to cut spending around here.
    So whats this Americans whining about some of you not wanting to pay high taxes like Canadians, British and Australians? YOU ALREADY DO!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by B0000rt
    So whats this Americans whining about some of you not wanting to pay high taxes like Canadians, British and Australians? YOU ALREADY DO!!
    Were one of the highest taxed state's in the union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huskyfan23
    Did I not already do that?

    Techie people, who seem to lean left, are likely white collar individuals. White collar individuals typically have a college degree.

    College professors educate future white collar workers. Colleges tend to lean left. College professors are highly educated. If highly educated people lean left, isn't it safe to say that being a leftie is the right way to lean?
    wow i cant begin to count the amount of reasoning errors (regardless if you're half joking) in what you just wrote. assumptions assumptions assumptions. you should take a critical thinking class..thats if you're old enough to be enrolled in college that is.

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