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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWDude49120 View Post
    Yeah, those 54 sites are pretty well spread around with only a few locations where they are clustered together (more than one 2G-only site). Those are mostly in the western half of the UP. That's why it is hard to pick them out in a coverage map. Also, many of them are short wooden poles carried over from the Dobson buy out, so their footprint is pretty small.


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    Speaking of sites still on E, I was wonder if that new site on Drummond Island is up and running? 3G?

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    New site on Drummond Island?


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    Quote Originally Posted by formercanuck View Post
    New site on Drummond Island?


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    Yes. AT&T was supposed to construct a brand new site on the island to replace the existing one. Whether or not it is online, or even built yet, I don't know. It was mentioned here on this thread at the top of page 9 about a year ago.

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    Not according to the latest coverage map

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    Quote Originally Posted by formercanuck View Post
    Not according to the latest coverage map
    The coverage map is showing Edge on the Drummond Island site. That 3G coverage that's covering part of the Island is from the tower in De Tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm View Post
    The coverage map is showing Edge on the Drummond Island site. That 3G coverage that's covering part of the Island is from the tower in De Tour.
    Construction for the new Drummond Village AT&T site is now completed as of June 23, 2014 by Northern Tower. Construction started around April 16th of 2014. It is 199' in total height with the antenna mast at 195'. No LTE support. While 1900Mhz is supported, it currently is not in use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWX View Post
    Construction for the new Drummond Village AT&T site is now completed as of June 23, 2014 by Northern Tower. Construction started around April 16th of 2014. It is 199' in total height with the antenna mast at 195'. No LTE support. While 1900Mhz is supported, it currently is not in use.

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    Wow that's nuts. I realize that backhaul is probably an issue on that site but they have spectrum licenses for 10x10 700 MHz (B17) and 10x10 AWS in Chippewa County. If that new tower was just completed and they didn't install equipment to support all spectrum bands, then the entity that is in charge of the build out is stupid. I guess it is more efficient to have crews come back 2 or 3 times and do upgrades. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm View Post
    Wow that's nuts. I realize that backhaul is probably an issue on that site but they have spectrum licenses for 10x10 700 MHz (B17) and 10x10 AWS in Chippewa County. If that new tower was just completed and they didn't install equipment to support all spectrum bands, then the entity that is in charge of the build out is stupid. I guess it is more efficient to have crews come back 2 or 3 times and do upgrades. Lol
    I question the accuracy of that frequency info. There are Sprint frequencies listed there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWDude49120 View Post
    I question the accuracy of that frequency info. There are Sprint frequencies listed there.


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    AT&T has license for all of the frequencies listed in the table I posted above, both cellular and PCS holdings.

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    It shows a 60 x 60 MHz chunck of PCS spectrum which actually covers AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon, and a few others. What confuses me is that it shows AT&T as having 1850-1865/1930-1945. The Spectrum Dashboard shows AT&T and T-Mobile as both having those same set of frequencies. ?????

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    Northern Michigan?

    Quote Originally Posted by 10mm View Post
    It shows a 60 x 60 MHz chunck of PCS spectrum which actually covers AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon, and a few others. What confuses me is that it shows AT&T as having 1850-1865/1930-1945. The Spectrum Dashboard shows AT&T and T-Mobile as both having those same set of frequencies. ?????
    One has the A side, one has the B side since it's an MTA service area. And they can have sub markets within the same license.
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    Northern Michigan?

    Quote Originally Posted by TWX View Post
    AT&T has license for all of the frequencies listed in the table I posted above, both cellular and PCS holdings.

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    That freq list shows 851MHz - 866MHz. Those are the old Nextel iDen frequencies that are now owned by Sprint. They are sandwiched in between the cellular TX and RX bands.


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    Hopefully that site, along with many others will be on Fiber/Microwave backhaul with at least true HSPA+. H+ is SO much better than UMTS on T-1's

    I was up in Marlette yesterday evening and "4G" speeds between there and Imlay City were blazing fast. I was actually getting consistent 2-3 Mbps uploads. Those were the speeds I was getting south of Almont just before they fired up LTE.

    Things should start breaking loose here again soon! Hopefully!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWDude49120 View Post
    That freq list shows 851MHz - 866MHz. Those are the old Nextel iDen frequencies that are now owned by Sprint. They are sandwiched in between the cellular TX and RX bands.


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    Sprint doesn't and Nextel never had any of the iDen licenses in the U.P. Sprint only has PCS there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWX View Post
    Sprint doesn't and Nextel never had any of the iDen licenses in the U.P. Sprint only has PCS there.
    Interesting. However, that doesn't change the fact that AT&T doesn't use those frequencies. If Sprint doesn't own them, it's possible they are being used for Public Safety or some other purpose. AT&T doesn't use them, so someone must. That's valuable 850 spectrum, after all.


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