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    AWS iPhone for T-Mobile close?


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    Sweet! I'll switch to Wind in a heartbeat if they are making an AWS iPhone

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    I really hope they will. Since AT&T and T-Mobile are merging, it makes sense that they will make the next iPhone compatible with AWS, which means I can use it with Wind. I should probably get a cheap phone right now with Wind to secure the plan they have at the moment with unlimited everything for $35, then cancel Rogers when this launches

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    Quote Originally Posted by casperr View Post
    I really hope they will. Since AT&T and T-Mobile are merging, it makes sense that they will make the next iPhone compatible with AWS, which means I can use it with Wind. I should probably get a cheap phone right now with Wind to secure the plan they have at the moment with unlimited everything for $35, then cancel Rogers when this launches
    If and when AT&T and TMoble merge, AWS will not be used for 3G. AWS will be for LTE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mandrsn1 View Post
    If and when AT&T and TMoble merge, AWS will not be used for 3G. AWS will be for LTE.
    Hopefully they release it now, since the merger will take some time to complete.

    As another Canadian, I am glad if they do go forward with this, as it will allow many of us that want to move to the new carriers to do so. Right now, if you want an iPhone in Canada you need to go with one of the main telcos. The new players have great plans but use AWS so no iPhone usage, even at full price. The lack of a compatible iPhone is keeping a lot of people off of these networks, so I really hope Apple releases a compatible iPhone.
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    Apple iPhone 5 to support T-Mobile and all five 3G bands in addition to CDMA?

    Zowee!
    This isn’t based on anything more than a loose tip and some speculation on my part, but it should would make sense, especially in the eyes of Apple and its quest to ship fewer SKUs. It has been widely rumored that the next iPhone will support CDMA and GSM frequencies, thus eliminating the need for Apple to ship different models to CDMA and GSM carriers. We exclusively reported that Apple is testing an iPhone for T-Mobile USA, but what if this was taken one step further? What if the iPhone 5 not only supported both CDMA and GSM networks, but also supported all five 3G bands in use today? This would open up T-Mobile USA’s 33 million subscribers to Apple’s iconic handset, while also some smaller carriers like WIND in Canada and others. Additionally, if AT&T’s T-Mobile USA acquisition is approved, great — T-Mobile USA’s “4G” network would be immediately available to help lighten the load on AT&T’s current network. If the merger isn’t approved, then Apple has immediate access to another large carrier with its iPhone 5 instead of having to work on another model separately. One phone to rule them all, right?
    http://www.bgr.com/2011/04/25/apple-...ition-to-cdma/

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    Hope so. A factory unlocked iPhone that is truly a world phone and can work for almost any carrier would retain huge resale value.

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    This is what I have heard from friends for the last few months. The chipset in the VZW phone already can do UMTS and CDMA, so it wouldn't take much to throw in a SIM slot, larger screen and A5 chip.
    Last edited by mandrsn1; 04-25-2011 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandrsn1 View Post
    This is what I have heard from friends for the last few months. The VZW phone already can do UMTS and CDMA, so it wouldn't take much to throw in a SIM slot, larger screen and A5 chip.
    Technically, the VZW iPhone cannot do UMTS. The baseband/radio chip used in the VZW iPhone can do UMTS, but not the VZW iPhone as it is today (due to other missing components).

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    Quote Originally Posted by XFF View Post
    Technically, the VZW iPhone cannot do UMTS. The baseband/radio chip used in the VZW iPhone can do UMTS, but not the VZW iPhone as it is today (due to other missing components).
    I omitted the word 'chipset'. Edited post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandrsn1 View Post
    If and when AT&T and TMoble merge, AWS will not be used for 3G. AWS will be for LTE.
    exactly... AWS sadly doesn't have much to offer outside of large cities (at least here in the US on T-Mo... go out in the sticks with a T-mo phone and you're rocking EDGE... )... and IF the AT&T merger happens... buh-bye AWS 3G altogether here in the US...

    it's stupid that the 1700 band is needed in the first place... but T-Mo (and DT) is so lame and poor they couldn't buy any 850 or 1900 spectrum, so here we are with some lame band... aka AWS.... and trust me, I've on T-Mo and loved them, but their 3G coverage sucks outside of large cities and metro areas...

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    I would expect to see an T-Mobile iPhone long before there is one from AT&T that would work on T-Mobiles network.

    But like the lottery "hey you never know"

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    An AWS-capable iPhone may not be driven by T-Mobile at all.

    Consider that the AWS (band IV) downlink (2110-2155 MHz) is a subset of the IMT (band I) downlink (2110-2170 MHz), which is already supported in all current iPhone/iPad models.

    However, the AWS (band IV) uplink (1710-1755 MHz) is a subset of the DCS (band III) uplink (1710-1785 MHz), which is not supported at this time.

    Also DCS is not currently being used for UMTS/HSPA, but European providers are looking at rebanding the DCS band for UMTS/HSPA, just like they've done with the GSM band (band VIII). In order to support UMTS/HSPA over DCS, a 5th PA/duplexer module would have to be added. At that time, both the AWS downlink (which overlaps with the IMT band) and the AWS uplink (which overlaps with the DCS band) would be covered, so AWS support would pretty much be a byproduct of adding support for the DCS band.

    I would not be surprised at all if the next generation iPhone includes UMTS/HSPA support for the DCS band, and thus incidentally also supports AWS, which could be used on T-Mobile until the AT&T acquisition is consummated and the 3G service is migrated from AWS to PCS.
    Last edited by XFF; 04-29-2011 at 08:52 PM.

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    ballerrrrrrrrrrrr

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    That would definitely be a good thing.

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