LG Optimus Black and Optimus 2X coming to Straight Talk

**TypeO** · 01-17-2012, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by phoneguyjaymes

I believe it's dictated by both can't have one without the other

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Originally Posted by silentjudge

Your device has to support 4G and SIM too. But in the case of the 4G HSPA thats on AT&T or T-Mobile, its really the same network as 3G and I don't think you actually need a new SIM to get on the 4G HSPA. In the case of 4G LTE, your SIM does actually have to specifically have LTE provisioned in it.

Then my next question would be will the SIMs for this new phone be somehow 4G enabled?
Put that SIM in an iPhone 4s for 4G speed?

**lincolncent** · 01-17-2012, 10:39 PM

Spoke with a local Walmart stock manager today who informed me the 2x's were delivered today. She couldn't remember the release date though

**jcpwn2004** · 01-17-2012, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by lincolncent

Spoke with a local Walmart stock manager today who informed me the 2x's were delivered today. She couldn't remember the release date though

Yahhh!!! Probably by the end of the month.

Guys it says LTE right on the site, I'm pretty sure it's not just hspa but I guess it could just be false advertising. Either way I'm stoked, it's been nice Virgin Mobile.

**HoFoNewB** · 01-17-2012, 10:49 PM

I bought an unlocked Optimus 2X last week and did the HoFo E71 sim swap. I'm getting 3g in most areas and 4g in areas where it's available. The E71 sim is AT&T. As far as Tmobile is concerned, they are also offering 4g prepaid on their network http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/

I guess we'll just have to wait to see which one this phone will run on. I won't even guess on the price from Straight Talk but I had to shop to find mine unlocked for $350. I also heard there were some glitches when the phone was on froyo but mine runs super smooth so far on gingerbread. It's also be upgradeable to ICS. This phone has been out for a year or more and was actually the first dual core ever released. Love mine so far!

**silentjudge** · 01-17-2012, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by TypeO

Then my next question would be will the SIMs for this new phone be somehow 4G enabled?
Put that SIM in an iPhone 4s for 4G speed?

The current SIM swap trick (sticky thread) already gets you "4G" on the iPhone 4S. Like I said, its 4G HSPA+, which is an evolution of 3G. Its much closer to 3.5 or 3.75G, but marketing people decided it should be called 4G.

Real 4G is LTE, which the iPhone doesn't support.

**oofda** · 01-17-2012, 11:39 PM

Yo, check out this thread on XDA-devs...Some guy got a leaked ST "Optimus 2x" aka G2x from a ST employee (see first post).

He also said the ST employee told him this is going to run on T-mobile's network. See here.

**Antenna** · 01-17-2012, 11:42 PM

Of course its on T-Mobile. It will use HSPA+, "4G "

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**Yeswap** · 01-18-2012, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Antenna

Of course its on T-Mobile. It will use HSPA+, "4G "

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The reserve page ( http://reserve.straighttalkandroid.com/ ) says it's LTE. T-Mobile doesn't have an LTE network. AT&T does. So either the LTE bit is false advertising or the network is AT&T.

**silentjudge** · 01-18-2012, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Yeswap

The reserve page ( http://reserve.straighttalkandroid.com/ ) says it's LTE. T-Mobile doesn't have an LTE network. AT&T does. So either the LTE bit is false advertising or the network is AT&T.

Its not going to be on LTE. Read my reasons a few posts back, its soooo unlikely that any MVNO will get LTE right now. Those are the Premium Networks for AT&T and VZW, theres no reason for them to offer it to Prepaid.

Anyways, the screenshots, pictures, and info the guy on XDA posted basically prove this is not an LTE phone but rather a 4G HSPA phone on T-Mobile.

The FCC ID matches the P999 (BEJP999DW)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...9&postcount=12

Whats a LG P999? http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-phones/LG-P999.jsp

The FCC ID definitively proves theres no LTE. Because if there was an LTE varient, it would have a differing FCC ID from the G2x that was on T-Mobile due to the need for an additional LTE radio.

**avNY87** · 01-18-2012, 12:48 AM

I'm willing to bet that it is a mistake on their part.

**lil_tlc** · 01-18-2012, 12:54 AM

So I guess this mean it will be pretty much crappy coverage almost like sprint since there will not be any roaming onto AT&T towers, unlike the T-MO prepaid does for voice...

**silentjudge** · 01-18-2012, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by lil_tlc

So I guess this mean it will be pretty much crappy coverage almost like sprint since there will not be any roaming onto AT&T towers, unlike the T-MO prepaid does for voice...

Its better than Sprint, see here:

GSM-T is T-Mobile. CDMA-S is Sprint. Clearly more coverage on GSM-T. Of course, that doesn't mean your covered, but its still a heck of a lot better than Sprint.

**Antenna** · 01-18-2012, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by Yeswap

The reserve page ( http://reserve.straighttalkandroid.com/ ) says it's LTE. T-Mobile doesn't have an LTE network. AT&T does. So either the LTE bit is false advertising or the network is AT&T.

That's Straight Talk "engrish"

The optimus 2x never had a LTE radio. Period.

No straight talk phone is going to allow truly unlimited LTE data for $45

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**Tracfancier** · 01-18-2012, 03:00 AM

Lets look at what the phone discloses about itself by going through these two tutorials (second one is best):

http://tracfone.deviceanywhere.com/s...8&cid=14343771

http://tracfone.deviceanywhere.com/s...8&cid=14343805

**silentjudge** · 01-18-2012, 03:24 AM

Heres what Tracfancier is pointing out:
Attachment 77884

The image shows its on HSPA and shows the "4G" icon at the top in the status bar.

So please, stop beating the dead horse. Theres no LTE.