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    Band 2 is live in Carlsbad, CA.
    Glad to see Band 2 make it is way down to So Cal.


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    Was in south Florida over the last few days. AT&T is running LTE on 1700 Band 4, 700 Band 17, and even 1900 Band 2. Needless to say, speeds were pretty awesome!

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    AT&T LTE in PCS by the end of 2013!

    Quote Originally Posted by digiblur View Post
    Nice work! I've compiled data as well, but with the tools I use everything is in HEX to make it easier to read. I usually use SignalCheck Pro for site logging (viewing the SQL table later) along with a 4G detector logging app that maps the LTE GCI with points as you travel to a CSV file. Viewing it in a Google fusion map later makes it very easy to figure out and log sites. I've created maps for my area and have all the sites around my metro area in my SignalCheck database so I can see which site I'm connected to at all times. I've never gotten into the cellmapper thing, I might have to check that out.





    Here's some info I've posted before if you haven't seen it (convert my HEX LTE sector IDs and you'll see the match with yours):

    310-410 AT&T - 1c = 1 carrier(channel), 2c = 2 carrier, etc.

    HSPA Pattern

    CID 11961 belongs to site 1196. The 1 is the sector/carrier designation.

    The sector and carriers are as follows for the first 3 subset of HSPA channels.

    1=1c, 4=2c, 7=3c of the Alpha sector
    2=1c, 5=2c, 8=3c of the Beta sector
    3=1c, 6=2c, 9=3c of the Gamma sector

    2nd subset of HSPA

    In most cases 4000 is added to the site number, in rare cases I've seen 4600 added. 1196 would become 5196.

    The sector and carriers are as follows for the second subset of HSPA channels.
    (sectors 4-6 seemed to be skipped)
    1=4c, 7=5c of the Alpha sector
    2=4c, 8=5c of the Beta sector
    3=4c, 9=5c of the Gamma sector

    In summary, 11965 would be Site 1196 Beta C2 and 51969 would be Site 1196 Gamma 5c.

    LTE Pattern

    Last two digits of GCI to determine the band

    0F, 10, 11 - B17
    16, 17, 19 - B4
    08, 09, 0A - B2
    01, 02, 03 - B5
    84, 85, 86 - B17 indoor DAS
    64, 65, 66 - B17 wide area DAS (French Quarter DAS poles)

    Example GCI - 02C3CC0F - Remove the sector ID and convert to DEC - 02C3CC becomes 181196. The first two digits are the market/region ID. 1196 again is the site ID and matches to the HSPA side of the site. Occasionaly some sites will use the 4c,5c HSPA site IDs with the 4000 added to the number. I've seen this on older Band 4 upgrades with RRUS11 B4. I've seen them going back to the original site IDs(non-4000 incremented) when they've been converting them to B17/B4/B2 sites with the AIR21 B4A/B12P antennas with RRUS12 B12 with the A2 B2 backpack.

    EDIT: I recently found the LTE GCI of 02C4AD8E which 8E is 142 in decimal. Looks like it falls in after one of your ranges. I was unable to catch what band it was but it was the LSU stadium DAS.
    Impressive that you were able to figure all of this out!

    Please note, however, that HSPA information is specific to your market and may not apply to all AT&T markets across the country. There is not a single standard across the country for HSPA naming/labeling, but LTE should be pretty close to standard nationwide.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWDude49120 View Post
    Impressive that you were able to figure all of this out!

    Please note, however, that HSPA information is specific to your market and may not apply to all AT&T markets across the country. There is not a single standard across the country for HSPA naming/labeling, but LTE should be pretty close to standard nationwide.


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    I've found it to hold true in several markets even with different equipment vendors. Make sense to keep it standard across the board.

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    Well, AT&T has got band 2 LTE in Laurel, MD. I'll report back if I find it in more places around Baltimore or DC.
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    Here is the speed I got at LIRRs Jamaica Station last night at a little after 10:30pm on Band 2 (1900Mhz). LTE was hardly usable at this hour, so obviously it is totally unusable during daytime hours. What can AT&T do in a case like this? There simply isn't enough spectrum to go around here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees368 View Post
    Here is the speed I got at LIRRs Jamaica Station last night at a little after 10:30pm on Band 2 (1900Mhz). LTE was hardly usable at this hour, so obviously it is totally unusable during daytime hours. What can AT&T do in a case like this? There simply isn't enough spectrum to go around here.

    they can increase tower density. did that here and speeds went from 3 down 1 up to 20 down 5 up (on 5x5 B17)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees368 View Post
    Here is the speed I got at LIRRs Jamaica Station last night at a little after 10:30pm on Band 2 (1900Mhz). LTE was hardly usable at this hour, so obviously it is totally unusable during daytime hours. What can AT&T do in a case like this? There simply isn't enough spectrum to go around here.

    They might be testing CA on that site. That's similar to the speeds I would see a few days to a week before CA was activated. A week later and I'm getting 60-70+ on bands 2+17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees368 View Post
    Here is the speed I got at LIRRs Jamaica Station last night at a little after 10:30pm on Band 2 (1900Mhz). LTE was hardly usable at this hour, so obviously it is totally unusable during daytime hours. What can AT&T do in a case like this? There simply isn't enough spectrum to go around here.

    More cell sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeuten View Post
    they can increase tower density. did that here and speeds went from 3 down 1 up to 20 down 5 up (on 5x5 B17)
    Tower density is already about as dense as it can get in this area. Hopefully they are just testing Band 2 in that area, but I think this really may just be the way things are for the immediate future.

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    Likely already posted but it was my first time being on Band 2! Downtown Detroit.



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    Quote Originally Posted by zephxiii View Post
    Likely already posted but it was my first time being on Band 2! Downtown Detroit.



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    Cool. Several sites in Flint are running B2 along with B17. Believe it or not, the fairly rural sites in Imlay City and one near Armada are also running the two LTE carriers. Lol

    Edit: AT&T LTE B2 is now live in Port Huron MI, in addition to B17.
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    Band 2 is live up in St. Albans, VT and Burlington, VT.
    Finally AT&T decided to augment their Band 5 LTE network with an additional 5 MHz FDD for their PCS Band.

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    I was picking up band 2 in Northhampton, Mass and it was 10x10. Looks like AT&T is increasing the LTE bandwidth in its PCS holdings.


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    AT&T LTE in PCS by the end of 2013!

    Yup. In Dallas and Houston, 10x10 700 and PCS LTE are essentially everywhere. Glad to see it ramping up elsewhere too. In Dallas, I'm seeing 5x5 850 LTE more and more in the suburbs, but have only seen one sighting in the city itself.
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