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    T-Mobile reports Q2 results

    http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030813/135744_1.html

    highlights:

    606K net adds. They specifically talk about reduced efforts to add customers in Q2 (to keep costs down), but say they will add at least 1.5M in the 2nd half.

    ARPU up $3 to $53. Largest increase among national carriers.

    Cah Flow Positive for first time. Operating Income over $100M

    Net loss down to $129M

    Capital costs of $400M exclusively on improving the network. The footprint did not change.

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    Re: T-Mobile reports Q2 results

    Originally posted by cheerioboy26
    http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030813/135744_1.html

    highlights:

    606K net adds. They specifically talk about reduced efforts to add customers in Q2 (to keep costs down), but say they will add at least 1.5M in the 2nd half.

    ARPU up $3 to $53. Largest increase among national carriers.

    Cah Flow Positive for first time. Operating Income over $100M

    Net loss down to $129M

    Capital costs of $400M exclusively on improving the network. The footprint did not change.
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    maybe that means more promotions for us!

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    cash flow positive is a good thing, net loss is not desireable but its been this way all along.

    Wonder what other carriers net loss figures are?

    Hell if they didnt put anything into the network last quarter they wouldnt have a loss either . Profit!
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    did anyone realize this now puts T-mobile only 200,000 suscribers less than Nextel?

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    I knew they were getting close!

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    Originally posted by Ludwig
    Wonder what other carriers net loss figures are?
    T-M Net ($129M)
    Sprint PCS ($119M)

    Profits:
    Cingular $410M
    Verizon $257M
    Nextel $309M
    AT&T $228M

    All figures for 2Q 2003.

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    Question

    for the non-biz people: how exactly is net-loss defined?

    Thanks

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    Originally posted by Caliphonia
    for the non-biz people: how exactly is net-loss defined?

    Thanks

    C.
    how much money the company uses each month. A net loss of 129million means that T-mo spent/lost 129million more dollars than the amount they earned

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    That's incorrect. What you're describing is somewhat close to operating income. Net income is influenced by non-cash items (such as depreciation and write-offs). Also, capital expenditures get capitalized, not expensed so they have no immediate effect on net income -- even if they didn't invest any money in their network, the net loss would have been pretty much the same. Cashflow would have been significantly more positive though. I hope that's helpful.

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    BTW, those are quarterly figures, not monthly. The net income/loss is the bottom line, after EVERYTHING is taken into account, as noted above. TM's Operating Income, is total revenues - total expenses. That's in the middle of this stuff below. This may not look good, but it hopefully won't be too messy:

    Code:
                       Three Months   Six Months
                                                   Ended         Ended
                                               June 30, 2003 June 30, 2003
                                               ------------- -------------
    Revenues:
     Post pay revenues                           $1,556,465    $2,914,038
     Prepaid revenues                               139,010       274,887
     Roaming and other service revenues              76,187       142,656
     Equipment sales                                206,956       416,456
     Affiliate and other revenues                    21,669        38,976
                                               ------------- -------------
          Total revenues                          2,000,287     3,787,013
                                               ------------- -------------
    Operating expenses:
     Network costs (excludes depreciation
      expense included below of $230,349 and
      $439,626, respectively)                       346,668       673,237
     Cost of equipment sales                        313,090       642,599
     General and administrative                     377,632       722,095
     Customer acquisition                           461,681       940,551
     Depreciation and amortization                  362,359       693,420
                                               ------------- -------------
          Total operating expenses                1,861,450     3,671,902
                                               ------------- -------------
    Operating income                                138,837       115,111
                                               ------------- -------------
    Other income (expense):
     Interest expense                              (167,339)     (320,121)
     Equity in net losses of unconsolidated
      affiliates                                    (20,789)      (39,973)
     Interest income and other, net                 (50,742)      (43,012)
                                               ------------- -------------
          Total other income (expense)             (238,870)     (403,106)
                                               ------------- -------------
    Net loss before income taxes                   (100,033)     (287,995)
    Deferred income tax expense                     (29,890)      (58,090)
                                               ------------- -------------
    Net loss                                      $(129,923)    $(346,085)
                                               ============= =============

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