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    Any buffet is not all you can eat at home.. it's all you can eat while you're here. Think of unlimited data as all you can use on the phone.. not tethered to your HTPC.
    Bye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by j'vai View Post
    I haven't seen one user on tmobile, or any mobile network, brag of using 1tb of data, & if that does exists, it may have happened once, *barely*.. I doubt the existence of any 2tb abusers..

    imagine 1024GiB of tethered mobile data, how is it consistently, possible?

    the *periscope* was thrown out there, for other reasons..
    My guess is that someone was using the connection as some kind of a server for constant uploading and downloading. It's certainly possible, especially in area's where T-Mobile's LTE can exceed 100Mbps, which is the speed of some of the fastest speeds that some cable companies offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet1000 View Post
    If you want to talk about AT&T and tethering, then go to the AT&T forum.

    This is about T-Mobile. You have zero evidence that T-Mobile will make any errors. This is just unfounded speculation on your part.



    T-Mobile doesn't offer unlimited tablet plans. Only unlimited phone plans. So if you're using a tablet on an unlimited plan, you deserve to be busted.

    And yes, T-mobile can tell the difference. If a phone is spending long hours downloading from a single site like Netflix, that traffic looks remarkably different than from someone who has hooked up a wireless router to an unbranded modem and has multiple computers using the same connection at the same time.

    It is your complete lack of understanding about this that leads you to make statements such as T-Mobile can't tell the difference when in fact they can.




    It can not handle unlimited hotspot or tethering nor has it ever said that they could. So T-Mobile has not lied about this contrary to your false accusations. They do not offer unlimited tablet plans or unlimited mifi broadband plans for that very reason. So stop accusing T-Mobile of lying about something that they did not say.
    They advertise unlimited data but placing any kind of limit on that data mean it is not unlimited that includes tethering because it uses your data. But their process of weeding out the people who violate this policy is going to get innocent people flagged At&t has done a similar approach and has caught innocent people in its net. It is time T Mobile ends unlimited data it is not sustainable and would end the nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idavenport90 View Post
    If T Mobile can handle the data than tell me why T Mobile is cracking the whip on their heavy data users or need to deprioritize people that they believe use too much data.
    Because 2TB goes way beyond excessive, and it breaks their terms and conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idavenport90 View Post
    They advertise unlimited data but placing any kind of limit on that data mean it is not unlimited that includes tethering because it uses your data. But their process of weeding out the people who violate this policy is going to get innocent people flagged At&t has done a similar approach and has caught innocent people in its net.
    Nope. You're completely wrong. Data used on the phone is not treated the same way as data usage while tethering. T-Mobile has been clear about this in many instances. There is a limit on high-speed tethering, although the data usage itself is still unlimited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idavenport90 View Post
    If T Mobile can handle the data than tell me why T Mobile is cracking the whip on their heavy data users or need to deprioritize people that they believe use too much data.
    Lets be clear here. By cracking the whip you mean: De-prioritizing data timing for users who have consumed more than 21GB in their billing cycle and (and this is important) are on a congested sector.

    This was done primarily to drive unlimited users to the new 10/20GB family plan that is out, but also had the benefit of keeping customers who use less data.

    T-Mobile is not going after people who skirt tethering restrictions only if they are on a congested sector. It doesn't matter if you've only got 10 subs on an entirely unloaded 10x10 pcs network covering some cows, or you are in a highrise in NYC running on a DAS, or in the suburbs. If you bypassed the tethering restrictions to use hundreds of GB of data, T-Mobile will contact you and offer you a different plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherMcG View Post
    Any buffet is not all you can eat at home.. it's all you can eat while you're here. Think of unlimited data as all you can use on the phone.. not tethered to your HTPC.
    It is the same data if you place any limitation it is not unlimited it is false adverting period. Straight Talk got in trouble for falsely advertising unlimited data. If T Mobile is not careful they maybe next.

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    This was done primarily to drive unlimited users to the new 10/20GB family plan that is out, but also had the benefit of keeping customers who use less data.
    how does this make sense?

    new family plan, max data you get is 20GB... how do you drive an unlimited user (21GB "softcap") to a 20GB plan (hardcap, throttled after), other than pricing (unlimited would typically be more expensive than the 20GB plan)

    Quote Originally Posted by idavenport90 View Post
    It is the same data if you place any limitation it is not unlimited it is false adverting period. Straight Talk got in trouble for falsely advertising unlimited data. If T Mobile is not careful they maybe next.


    T-mobile has been clear about smartphone=unlimited, tether=3/5/7GB

    straighttalk wasn't

    At issue is Straight Talk's fair-usage data policy, which is not explicitly advertised by the company but has been noted by TracFone representatives.
    http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/...aim/2013-08-08

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmplus View Post
    Lets be clear here. By cracking the whip you mean: De-prioritizing data timing for users who have consumed more than 21GB in their billing cycle and (and this is important) are on a congested sector.

    This was done primarily to drive unlimited users to the new 10/20GB family plan that is out, but also had the benefit of keeping customers who use less data.

    T-Mobile is not going after people who skirt tethering restrictions only if they are on a congested sector. It doesn't matter if you've only got 10 subs on an entirely unloaded 10x10 pcs network covering some cows, or you are in a highrise in NYC running on a DAS, or in the suburbs. If you bypassed the tethering restrictions to use hundreds of GB of data, T-Mobile will contact you and offer you a different plan.
    Thank you for proving my point it is not unlimited data. You get 21GB of High Speed data and then you are deprioritized instead of being throttled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idavenport90 View Post
    They advertise unlimited data but placing any kind of limit on that data mean it is not unlimited that includes tethering because it uses your data. But their process of weeding out the people who violate this policy is going to get innocent people flagged At&t has done a similar approach and has caught innocent people in its net. It is time T Mobile ends unlimited data it is not sustainable and would end the nonsense.
    Another fix:
    "They advertise unlimited smartphone data but placing any kind of limit .."

    Well, idavenport90, they dont place any kind of limit on their unlimited smartphone data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paperwastage View Post
    how does this make sense?

    .... other than pricing (unlimited would typically be more expensive than the 20GB plan)
    You got it. The majority of unlimited data users are under 10GB, 90% of them are under 20 GB. It saves them money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwagger View Post
    Dude, you really don't know what you are talking about. The fact that you say when your phone is "modified" or use an "app" is the tell. I am pretty sure you are just repeating what someone else told you. You think using foxfi will keep them from knowing you are tethering?
    Their network can not distinguish what is tethering or unlimited data if you bypass the built in tethering app that is how it separates the tethering data from your phone data and that is how they are getting around their cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnywlsh View Post
    My guess is that someone was using the connection as some kind of a server for constant uploading and downloading. It's certainly possible, especially in area's where T-Mobile's LTE can exceed 100Mbps, which is the speed of some of the fastest speeds that some cable companies offer.

    naaw, on a wireless mobile network?

    too volatile, for consistent I/o server throughput;

    signal lost, abrupt channel changes, connection resets..

    I think we're chasing , a ghost..
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    Quote Originally Posted by idavenport90 View Post
    Their network can not distinguish what is tethering or unlimited data if you bypass the built in tethering app that is how it separates the tethering data from your phone data and that is how they are getting around their cap.
    Incorrect again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idavenport90 View Post
    Thank you for proving my point it is not unlimited data. You get 21GB of High Speed data and then you are deprioritized instead of being throttled.
    This is still unlimited. You're still free to use as much data as you want.

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