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    Quote Originally Posted by HansCT View Post
    Go back and look at the smear campaign aimed at Snowden in the early days before the PTB figured out how many people realized he's a hero... you really think Sweden would have been pursuing Julian Assange without WikiLeaks? Do a little research on how Chelsea Manning has been tortured, all supposedly legal as if hundreds of days of solitary confinement isn't cruel and unusual punishment...
    I was happy to see Democratic Presidential candidate Lincoln Chafee praise Edward Snowden during the Democratic Debate Wednesday night. In my mind too, Snowden, Assange, and Manning are helpful whistleblowers. I think I heard on TV a year or two ago by some pundit or newzcaster that in Hawaii where Snowden lived, Snowden's girlfriend was an exotic dancer at a strip club. Do you know if that's true or just part of the smear campaign? Lol. True or not, Snowden is a heroic whistleblower.

    Did Snowden break the law ? Possibly, but a U.S. Court recently ruled that the government was breaking the law big-time through the warrantless mass-collection of data, and I don't see anybody going to jail for that. I don't see any banksters going to jail either. President Bush engaged in torture (euphemistically called "enhanced interrogation"--rather Orwellian name. But we never saw Bush tried in a U.S. Court of Law for torture, starting a war under false pretenses ("weapons of mass destruction"--the big lie). Check out the incredible movie by Terry Gilliam called "Brazil."

    By the way, I just want the N.S.A. to know I believe in peaceful, non-violent change through the voting booth. That's why I'm asking everybody to vote for the Green Party, or if you're on the political right, vote for the Libertarians. The Democrats and Republicans have completely failed the country, and don't deserve to win another election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roncomatic View Post
    I think I heard on TV a year or two ago by some pundit or newzcaster that in Hawaii where Snowden lived, Snowden's girlfriend was an exotic dancer at a strip club.
    Part of the smear campaign, even if it is true, nothing wrong with that is there? Even if she's an escort, we're talking about crimes against obsolete religion based repressive morality, not actual evil criminality on a world scale like those perpetrated by our governments in the name of securing markets for their corporate overlords.

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    I wouldn't be at all surprised if Julian Assange was smeared by the Swedish prosecutors' allegations.
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    Again, far more stringent standards regarding consent will be require for anyone who is that kind of a target. I am 100% positive the whole thing would not have come up at all if he were an ordinary member of the public cowed by the constant intimidation.

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    You're going to love Terry Gilliam's movie "Brazil." You can rent it on Roku ;-)

    For those without a Roku, the movie can be rented through the postal mail via NetFlix.

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    Seen it many times, love all his stuff. But pay money for media? Not me...

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    Other than late fees at my local library, at least that's going to a good cause...

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    Of course there are plenty of good guys in Boston, New York, Dallas, and Houston too. They're not all banksters in N.Y. and Boston OR all Oil criminals in Dallas and Houston. For example, Texas technology company CEO Ross Perot was a good guy who helped prevent his fellow Texan Papa Bush from winning a second Presidential term in 1992. The elder Bush, an oil stooge, was held to just one term.

    Ross Perot and the CEOs of other technology companies like Compaq and Texas Instruments, had a vested interest in defeating their fellow Texan George Bush because U.S. technology companies' revenues decline dramatically when the Dallas and Houston Oil barons start wars. Foreign governments and foreign corporations reduce their business purchases from American companies dramatically when the Oil criminals like Lyndon Johnson in 1965 and the two Bushes years later start oil wars. Remember our own silly campaign to rename "French Fries" to "Freedom Fries" after the French opposed our invasion of Iraq in the 2000s... Americans were boycotting some French products then too.

    Everybody around the world does a whole lot less business with American companies when we start wars, and that hurts the bottom lines of U.S. technology companies and lots of other U.S. industrial companies too, except for the oil companies and of course the defense contractors who both benefit enormously from the wars. Just making the point that there's plenty of good guys in the Financial Center cities and Oil Center cities too. But the political power of the banksters and oil criminals needs to be reigned in because they usually hold the most political power in their respective cities. So vote Green or Libertarian, because the Demolition and ReBublican parties are full of candidates who are oil and bankster puppets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HansCT View Post
    Other than late fees at my local library, at least that's going to a good cause...
    Yeah, I'd love to rent every movie for free from the library, but sometimes there's a one-month or longer delay from when a movie is released to when the library and NetFlix get it. For example, last week some new movies became available for streaming through Roku (via Amazon, Google, Vudu, M-Go, and CinemaNow's Roku service) that are still not available on NetFlix Postal or NetFlix Streaming. Netflix Postal's release of the movie will be a month later than Roku Amazon, Roku Google, Roku Vudu, etc. So if you don't want to wait a month to get it through NetFlix Postal, you can pay $5 to watch it on Roku via Google streaming, Amazon streaming, Vudu streaming, etc.

    I actually prefer watching movies on Roku than at the theater because, for $4 or $5, the Roku services let you rent the movie and watch it as many times as you want during the 24-hour or 48-hour window the $5 rental fee is good for. For some movies, the rental window may even be 5 or 7 days, not just 24 to 48 hours. And Roku lets you rewind scenes if you missed something--you can't do that at the theater. Another thing you can't do at the theater is turn on captioning so you can read the dialogue if you can't understand what was said. Roku is great! And the Roku 4 is being released this month! Just from reading about the Roku 4's features, it seems to blow away the Apple, Chromecast, and Nexus streamers. No, I don't work for Roku. LOL. Just love my Roku!!
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    Yes I love my Roku too, but I only use it for free content, actually only bought it as miracast receiver from my and my kids' smaller screens. I have no need to see films quickly when they are released.

    In fact right now, I'm working my way through the Hitchcock filmography with my kids, last month we finished Charlie Chaplin's...

    I haven't paid a cent for any media for maybe a decade now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HansCT View Post
    In fact right now, I'm working my way through the Hitchcock filmography with my kids, last month we finished Charlie Chaplin's...
    I really enjoyed Hitchcock's "Vertigo," "Rear Window," and "Psycho." Never did get into "The Birds." Can't recall if "Double Indemnity" is a Hitch film but enjoyed that. I haven't seen all of Hitchcock though. Are there any of his films you liked better than those?

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    Well I won't say better than, psycho and vertigo certainly right up there, Strangers on a train, North by northwest, notorious...

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    Just understand this the news networks answer to a higher hierarchy those that control what you see have a specific agenda ... And I could tell you it's not to good for us or the whole world for that matter.��

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    Quote Originally Posted by stargazer View Post
    Just understand this the news networks answer to a higher hierarchy those that control what you see have a specific agenda ... And I could tell you it's not to good for us or the whole world for that matter.
    Yep, SkyNet's in control. Heh. (Allusion to the Terminator movies).

    Check out the three "Loose Change 9/11" documentaries on YouTube:

    1. Loose Change 9/11 - First Edition

    2. Loose Change 9/11 - Second Edition

    3. Loose Change 9/11 - Final Cut

    Some information is repeated in all 3 films, but each film has lots of information unique to itself that the other two films don't have.

    I don't know whether I believe the "Loose Change" films or not, but the films certainly make you think, and the theories in the "Loose Change" films are certainly plausible, as shown in James Bamford's book "Body of Secrets" about Project Northwoods, etc.

    Another good documentary availabe on Hulu and YouTube is "Dark Legacy," about George Bush Senior's possible involvement in John Kennedy's assassination. The elder Bush may have been one among many conspirators. Bush was director of the C.I.A. for a short time around 1974 by the way. There's an interesting memorandum written by F.B.I. Director J. Edgar Hoover about Bush in regards to Kennedy's assassination. Lots of fascinating stuff in this film. Might I also recommend Jim Garrison's book "A Heritage of Stone."

    I just saw these 4 films this past week on Roku's YouTube channel. Watching YouTube is a lot better on a TV than on a computer screen. Love Roku.

    The "Loose Change 9/11" documentaries are the grand-daddy of 9/11 conspiracy films, viewed over 10 million times.

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    Forgot to mention the hour-long interview of former National Security Council member John Stockwell called "The Dirty Secrets of George Bush," also available on YouTube. Stockwell is the highest ranking member of the National Security Council to ever leave the N.S.C. and the C.I.A. out of good conscience. I saw Stockwell speak years ago at Webster University, and I saw Philip Agee speak at MU, two great men of conscience who make the Bush's look like moral pygmies.
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    Project Northwoods mentioned in my earlier post was a crazy plan thunk up by the Pentagon to invade Cuba in the 1960s by staging "false flag" terrorist attacks on American soil and blaming it on Cuba and Castro, thus gaining the American public's support to invade Cuba. Kennedy fired the general who supported the plan. The general fired was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff--I've forgotten his name (it's been a while since I read James Bamford's revealing book "Body of Secrets," available on Amazon and at the library).

    Project Northwoods is no longer a secret; I don't recall if it was Senator Frank Church's committe in the Congress in the 1970s that revealed the crazy scheme. Incidentally, being much more honest than the C.I.A., the F.B.I. has stated that there is no hard evidence implicating Bin Laden in the attack on our Twin Towers. Check out the three "Loose Change 9/11" films; it's mentioned in one of the 3 films; I've forgotten which. And Bamford's book is chilling. It's not like this stuff hasn't happened before. It happens time and again. "Remember the Maine!" was the rallying cry in an earlier period. And of course, it's now been shown in declassified documents that Lyndon Johnson's "Gulf of Tonkin" resolution in the Congress that gave Johnson the authority to attack Vietnam was based on a lie; the Vietnamese never fired on our 2 ships in the Gulf of Tonkin. A lot of oil is thought to exist in Vietnam's Mekong Delta, much like there's a lot of oil in neighboring Indonesia, a major oil producer.

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    The official name of Senator Church's committee in the 1970s was the "United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities." A lot of crazy dirty tricks were uncovered that you'd think would never occur in a democracy. Of course, we don't really have a democracy. Like HansCT said, the president is chosen by the Electoral College, not directly by the people. Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000 but lost in the Electoral College. Gore received more votes than Bush nationwide, but still lost.

    The so-called "National Security Council" along with a more powerful, roguish secret group of tyrants operating behind the scenes really control our foreign policy, not the American people. (President Franklin Roosevelt referred to them as "corporate royalists" and President Eisenhower called them the "Military-Industrial Complex"--basically a super wealthy junta of just hundreds or thousands of loosely associated persons whose goals sometimes conflict even with each other's. The late investigative reporter Jack Anderson spoke about them. You saw how powerful they are when some of them killed John Kennedy. Remember my post "A Sad Tale of Four Cities.") Vote for the Green Party if you're on the left or the Libertarian Party if you're on the right if you want us to move towards a democracy, and disband the Electoral College and all of the non-democratic secret governmental operations that bankrupt our economy and make us bullies around the world, responsible for millions of lost innocent lives globally. In Vietnam alone, for example, it's estimated between 3 and 6 million Vietnamese lost their lives during the war. Lyndon Johnson's Defense Secretary Robert McNamara said at one point he was worried our government could be held liable for genocidal war crimes against humanity, which meant McNamara could be held liable.

    And let's not forget all the innocent lives lost in Central America by all the dictators we propped up over the decades in Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, etc. (Have you noticed that the Los Angeles spin-off of "The Walking Dead" zombie series on AMC called "Fear the Walking Dead" involves actor Reuben Blades playing a former El Salvador military officer who was a torturer in the 1980s? That's some really good writing on "Fear the Walking Dead," better than the first series called "The Walking Dead.")

    Ronald Reagan and Oliver North militarily supported the rebel Contra army in Nicaragua in direct violation of the U.S. Congress's law forbidding American support of the Contras because the Contras were a terrorist group purposefully destroying Nicaraguan schools, hospitals, and terrorizing Nicaraguan villages. That didn't bother Reagan and North though, just as millions of dead Vietnamese didn't bother Johnson. Remember the Iran-Contra scandal where Ollie North, John Poindexter, and a host of other rogues had to testify in front of the Congress?

    Vote for the Green Party or the Libertarian Party, and throw the immoral, unethical bums out of office. The Democrats and Republicans have bankrupted our great country and have hurled shame upon us through ceaseless wars waged decade after decade. There will be Green and Libertarian candidates on your state ballot and your federal ballot, even though all the large news media companies are not giving them any news coverage at all. Zilch. Zero coverage. How can journalists not cover legitimate candidates that will appear on your ballot? Because they're not journalists so much as gate-keepers.

    Greens and Libertarians have been on our state, local, and federal ballots for many election cycles now, and a few have won local seats. And that's what worries the shameful Democrats and Republicans.
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