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    How long before sprint copies or tries to 1-up tmobiles uncarrier X?

    We all know sprint likes to copy tmobiles uncarrier offerings. John mentioned it today and it was actually funny. Sprint will try to spin tmobiles new plans into something sprint can counter.

    I say by tomorrow sprint will try to offer similar plans
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    I think they'll come up with a family plan that offers more (shared) data than a comparably priced T-Mobile plan by using bait and switch tactics... such as waiving the $20/line access fees for X amount of months, but only if you trade in your old smartphone and lease or finance a new device from them. Then they'll hope you'll hit data overages.

    In my experience they already optimize mobile video, and offering free video streaming would just put more load on the network and hurt their chances of charging overages. They're still trying to become profitable as it is.
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    Why is this in a Sprint forum instead of in the T-Mobile forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Wireless View Post
    Why is this in a Sprint forum instead of in the T-Mobile forum?
    Because sprint always directly competes with tmobile

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    Why Sprint wants to copy something that wants to F the Internet anyways

    http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/10/9...em-john-legere

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    How long before sprint copies or tries to 1-up tmobiles uncarrier X?

    I don't see how any carrier can turn their head to this. The Verge was right, T-Mobile has too much power now. The biggest reason people have unlimited data has just been "whitelisted" and doesn't count against their data! With North American Roaming, Music Freedom, VoLTE, VoWifi and the benefit to seamlessly transfer from wifi to LTE, Video Binge, Buy out ETFs, No access fees, and competing data plans T-Mobile is far ahead the other three. If you live in a T-Mobile area then I don't see how you can't go with them. Personal I'm staying right here with Sprint, with my cheap iPhone Plan for $50 and my iPhone for $22 and calling it a day. T-Mobile couldn't beat that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYC_33 View Post
    Why Sprint wants to copy something that wants to F the Internet anyways

    http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/10/9...em-john-legere
    That Verge article and it's title just shows how poor quality the Verge have become. Very low media quality.

    Besides that, what TMO did was to encourage people not to use high bandwidth video. That is the main item that most people are missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJoe View Post
    That Verge article and it's title just shows how poor quality the Verge have become. Very low media quality.

    Besides that, what TMO did was to encourage people not to use high bandwidth video. That is the main item that most people are missing.

    the verge made an excellent point:


    tmobile zero rate is bs..


    what if many of my vids are from TED? - https://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_on_vulnerability

    or my music is streamed from somaFM? - https://somafm.com/groovesalad/

    or wtop? - http://wtop.com/listen-live/



    i'd rather an unmolested full rate lte connection that let's me pick & choose for myself, what i stream, no matter from where, & it doesn't alter my rate plan, it'll be all the same..
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    I think people will wait to see if this adversely effects the network. I also think Uncarrier just "Jumped the Shark".
    I don't feel like a thread-killer...

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    I am not touting the verge as quality media, but I 100% for sure agree with this article. Of course it is wonderful for t-mobile subscribers and the company, people love something for nothing.
    However the principle of net neutrality is critical to the future of the Internet and zero rating poisons the well. There should be *no* discrimination positive or negative based on the *source* of the data stream.

    If the mechanism uses deep packet inspection and does zero rating based on the type of media being streamed, then fair enough that is fine - my FLAC or MKV collection streaming on my commute to my phone from my home nas or private cloud server should get exactly the same treatment as Apple or some brand new entrant into the competitive industry.

    That is the only style of zero rating that would preserve the principles of net neutrality.

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    I like that TMO gives you the option and is telling you that the video speeds are reduced.
    Sprint re-encodes the videos and images, reduces their quality and I have no control of this, other than using a vpn.
    Cricket is at least re-encoding and reducing image quality, not sure about video. But their proxy increases the latency on all web actions.

    With Sprint/Cricket changing the data and not telling people very clearly, are they guilty too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HansCT View Post
    the principle of net neutrality is critical to the future of the Internet and zero rating poisons the well.
    https://reason.com/archives/2015/04/08/nothing-but-net

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    What I mentioned in the T-Mobile forums is that I really think that this is Magenta's way of traffic shaping. They have lots of UDP users and because the Binge-On feature is turned ON by default T-Mobile gets to offer video but at a reduced network load. As a T-Mobile user you will actually have to turn the feature OFF if you want to stream at higher quality and the only way UDP users get a free movie rental as promised it to leave the feature ON.

    Supposedly there is no application prioritization or any money changing hands.

    I do watch video on my mobile from time to time but it's always in fits and starts. You'll never catch me watching a 2.5 hour movie on my iPhone.

    We'll have to see how this turns out from a network load and whether Sprint, AT&T or Verizon will follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volaris View Post
    I think they'll come up with a family plan that offers more (shared) data than a comparably priced T-Mobile plan by using bait and switch tactics... such as waiving the $20/line access fees for X amount of months, but only if you trade in your old smartphone and lease or finance a new device from them. Then they'll hope you'll hit data overages.

    In my experience they already optimize mobile video, and offering free video streaming would just put more load on the network and hurt their chances of charging overages. They're still trying to become profitable as it is.
    But their new plans don't have overages: https://www.sprint.com/shop/plan-wal...lan=individual
    Thrill me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HansCT View Post
    my FLAC or MKV collection streaming on my commute to my phone from my home nas or private cloud server should get exactly the same treatment as Apple or some brand new entrant into the competitive industry.

    That is the only style of zero rating that would preserve the principles of net neutrality.
    Maybe your FLAC and MKV connection will get the same treatment one day soon. Whose to say they won't open it up. You may have to convert your content to 2.65 or another codec but who knows.

    The only issue I can see with T-Mobile opening this up for individual use is they can't be comlpicit in the streaming of illegal content. I imagine all the streaming sites guarantee they have the rights to what they play. If your personal NAS can allow you and others to login and access your content through their tools could they be held liable if something doesn't add up?


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