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    another government increase on our bills

    Universal Service Fund (USF)

    again they increased it and of course the mother ship responded accordingly i did a quick calculation on my total state and federal taxes and all associated fees its about 19 pct. Yeah i know a couple of people on this site will probably state go to cricket but i have no desire. see the below link on the increments on the Universal Service Fund (USF) i guess i am venting i know its a couple of cents but look at the big picture a couple of cents multiplied by all the wireless subscribers in the USA that is a lot of cash to subsidize the USF... Goverment at its best spending our money in a reckless way...........

    https://www.fcc.gov/general/contribu...gement-support

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    Doesn't the USF pay for all those freebie Obama phones out there?

    If Sanders or Clinton become president it's only going to get worse.

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    Yeah I figure we can expect more and more of these types of fees as time goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billm261 View Post
    Doesn't the USF pay for all those freebie Obama phones out there?

    If Sanders or Clinton become president it's only going to get worse.



    They sure will go up and not by pennies but dollars..... i never got a free phone when i was laid off a couple of years ago

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    The Universal Service Fund from the FCC:

    The FCC established four programs within the Universal Service Fund to implement the statute. The four programs are:

    Connect America Fund (formally known as High-Cost Support) for rural areas
    Lifeline (for low-income consumers), including initiatives to expand phone service for residents of Tribal lands
    Schools and Libraries (E-rate)
    Rural Health Care

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ten Four View Post
    The Universal Service Fund from the FCC:
    Awesome, how do they justify the healthcare as part of it? I'm not against access to healthcare for all but the USF?

    Our government is out of control and the national debt that's been skyrocketing these past 8 years is proof of it.

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    There are a lot of rural areas that have very limited or no broadband available. You can imagine how good communications are important to healthcare. By the way, one-third of the people on the Lifeline program are disabled. Most of them make less than $15000 per year. From the FCC:

    Summary of Rural Health Care Program

    The Rural Health Care Program, which includes the new Healthcare Connect Fund, provides funding to eligible health care providers (HCPs) for telecommunications and broadband services necessary for the provision of health care. The goal of the program is to improve the quality of health care available to patients in rural communities by ensuring that eligible HCPs have access to telecommunications and broadband services. Funding for the Rural Health Care Program is capped at $400 million annually.

    The Rural Health Care Program is currently made up of three programs: the Healthcare Connect Fund, the Telecommunications Program, and the Rural Health Care Pilot Program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ten Four View Post
    There are a lot of rural areas that have very limited or no broadband available. You can imagine how good communications are important to healthcare. By the way, one-third of the people on the Lifeline program are disabled. Most of them make less than $15000 per year. From the FCC:
    It makes perfect sense for small rural health care facilities to be able to transmit patient information (be it a Cat Scan, X-Ray, etc) to a team that can quickly evaluate, diagnose and implement a treatment plan.

    However, does that mean we pay for the miles and miles of fiber or coax? I have some friends that live in an Island with nothing better than (slow, painfully inadequate) DSL service and the solution for them was satellite and it works pretty well. Why not just go that route?

    I'm all for helping a truly disabled person, I'm ok helping a worker who may not make enough to take care of their family and may need heating or food assistance. I'm not OK with those who choose handouts as a lifestyle with no desire to do better.

    What way too many people forget is that what the government gives to one, it takes from another. And what this government can't take from us, they borrow.

    Where is a sensible medium in all of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ten Four View Post
    There are a lot of rural areas that have very limited or no broadband available. You can imagine how good communications are important to healthcare. By the way, one-third of the people on the Lifeline program are disabled. Most of them make less than $15000 per year. From the FCC:
    My families income is north of 100k and the scam artists signing up people in Walmart for lifeline said they could still get us free phones

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    Quote Originally Posted by kneedragger32 View Post
    My families income is north of 100k and the scam artists signing up people in Walmart for lifeline said they could still get us free phones
    There are no shortage of scumbag hustlers out there. It's a well intended program that like most all government HANDOUTS has very little oversight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billm261 View Post
    and the national debt that's been skyrocketing these past 8 years is proof of it.
    I must disagree completely. The reason we have such a large national debt is the HUGE amount of Corporate Welfare amounting to many trillions handed out over the decades to the fraudulent big banks (and financial sector in general) and to the "defense" contractors and Big Oil. That's where all our money's been going down the hole: to the upper one-tenth of one percent. It's a wealth distribution machine to funnel wealth from the middle class to the upper class. That's what Reagain's "defense" build-up was about, for example, and Bush's out-of-control debt spending. Even Forbes Magazine wrote last decade that Bush was spending like a "drunken sailor" (Forbes quote).

    Economic studies have shown that 4 to 9 times as many jobs are created when government spends its taxes on the health industry, education, infrastructure, construction, etc., etc., than when government spends the same amount of tax dollars on the "defense" industry. The defense industry is a big black hole where dollars disappear, creating the fewest number of jobs of any industry--creating just a fraction of the number of jobs. Same for Big Oil and Finance--the 3 worst industries for job creation.

    We can spend one-tenth the amount on defense and remain secure as a nation. The rest of the 90 percent pecent is simply lard to the uber rich. Our nation spends as much on "defense" as the next 10 or 20 countries put together--something like that--I've forgotten the exact statistic. The American People have been getting robbed for decades by the Democrats and Repulblicans. Folks, please vote for the Green Party or the Libertarian Party rather than the corrupt Republicans and Democrats. Or vote for Bernie Sanders (his brother was a Green in Britain before retiring).

    Bernie Sanders cares more about the American People than Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, etc. Don't elect another Bribe-Taker-in-Chief.
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    Forgot to mention:

    By some counts, half the budget in the 1980s went to Reagan's massive "defense" build-up. Half the budget! !! 500-dollar hammers anyone? After 8 years of Raygun, our national debt had skyrocketed so much that the total debt accumulated in 8 years was actually greater than all the debt accumulated by ALL the presidents that had come before Raygun since 1776, the birth of our nation. I remember the 80s well. That's not all that skyrocketed. Because of Reagan's flaky economic theory called "Trickle Down" economics, we had wealth skyrocketting in reverse, moving from the lower and middle classes to the upper class--thanks to Reagain's massive "defense" spending. Ronald Reagan was Robin Hood in Reverse. Trickle Down should have been named Skyrocket Up. It was massive robbery on a huge scale.

    The super wealthy don't care about America. They're happy to rob their fellow Americans blind. We need to raise taxes on the super wealthy, and lower taxes for the rest of America. That's how our country gets out of our current economic / massive debt hole. Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who has the gumption and courage to do what is needed--the only honest cadidate. Bernie cares for America.

    In the 1950s during General Eisenhower's presidency, taxes on the super wealthy were 90 percent. We need to raise taxes on the super wealthy to at least 55 to 60 percent. As Bernie says, the Middle Class bailed out Wall Street last decade. Now it's time for Wall Street to help America--to pay back the Middle Class. That will jump-start the economy.
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    By the way, if people ever have the time to take a Peace Studies class at your local college or university, you'll learn new ideas and perspectives rarely seen on mainstream, corporately controlled media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roncomatic View Post
    By the way, if people ever have the time to take a Peace Studies class at your local college or university, you'll learn new ideas and perspectives rarely seen on mainstream, corporately controlled media.
    ....incidentally I'm all for capitalism. Capitalism is good. The problem is the Fortune 500 companies (the biggest, wealthiest companies in America) want socialism for themselves, and capitalism for everyone else, including small businesses. The biggest welfare mavens in the country are Big Oil, the Big Banks, and the "Defense" Industry. We need Senator Bernie Sanders to break up the Big Banks, as is his position. "Too big to fail" is too big to exist. It's not like the big banks grew naturally to their current size. I used to bank at Centerre Bank. Then Centerre Bank was bought by Boatmen's Bank. Then Boatmen's Bank was bought by NationsBank. Then NationsBank bought Bank of America, dropping the NationsBank name, preferring to keep the Bank of America name.

    Almost forgot that before the NationsBank buyout of Bank of America, Bank of America had already merged with FleetBoston, which itself was a conglomeration of Fleet Bank and Boston Bank.
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