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    Targeting 325 Million People Covered with LTE in 2018

    “The Internet wasn’t meant to be metered in bits and bytes, so it’s insane that wireless companies are still making you buy it this way. The rate plan is dead — it’s a fossil from a time when wireless was metered by every call or text.” John Legere 1/5/2017

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    Jolly good show, but wouldn't it be better if there were more phones with 600 MHz capability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Who? View Post
    Jolly good show, but wouldn't it be better if there were more phones with 600 MHz capability?
    You know, just after the 600 auction, I bet everyone here that T-Mobile would have at least one phone and one 600 MHz site by E.O.Y. '18. They beat me by a full year. I think they're doing pretty darned good. Yes, they need to get those mid-range band-71 phones available PDQ but I'm still astounded at just how fast they moved on 600.
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    Honestly, I could care less about POPs. I want square miles. Areas on T-Mobile’s coverage map that show “fair” for miles and miles shouldn’t be counted, as many of these areas are no service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BentleyBeard View Post
    Honestly, I could care less about POPs. I want square miles. Areas on T-Mobile’s coverage map that show “fair” for miles and miles shouldn’t be counted, as many of these areas are no service.
    I do because I spend 99% of my time in areas where people live, work and play.

    I agree that carrier maps can be overoptimistic but there is no denying the huge strides in coverage T-Mobile has made over the past 4 years. I'm not even sure AT&T covers this many Americans (US Only not Mexico) with LTE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    I do because I spend 99% of my time in areas where people live, work and play.

    I agree that carrier maps can be overoptimistic but there is no denying the huge strides in coverage T-Mobile has made over the past 4 years. I'm not even sure AT&T covers this many Americans (US Only not Mexico) with LTE?
    Square miles are important. This 325M POPs claim is just hilarious. The largest LTE Carrier in the US only covers 322M POPs. I do not believe that T-Mobile will surpass Verizon in coverage within the next year - if at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BentleyBeard View Post
    Square miles are important. This 325M POPs claim is just hilarious. The largest LTE Carrier in the US only covers 322M POPs. I do not believe that T-Mobile will surpass Verizon in coverage within the next year - if at all.
    They are indeed but all major US carriers use the POPS measurement. AT&T does too.

    Going from 322 million to 325 million Americans does cover quite a bit of rural ground; it has to; the last few million always do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    Going from 322 million to 325 million Americans does cover quite a bit of rural ground; it has to; the last few million always do.
    Claiming coverage of that 3 million and covering them well are two distinctly different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    I do because I spend 99% of my time in areas where people live, work and play.

    I agree that carrier maps can be overoptimistic but there is no denying the huge strides in coverage T-Mobile has made over the past 4 years. I'm not even sure AT&T covers this many Americans (US Only not Mexico) with LTE?
    Well, to be honest, those wanting the still large coverage gap closed DO want it to work wherever people live, work, and play Covering 325 million only in their homes is a good start...

    (I'm expecting that the 600 mhz coverage expansion will be done and good by about 2020. If it is not, and the T-Mobile network is still, say. only 75% as good as Verizon's, THEN I will grouse. And along with this timeline, I will look for a Pixel 3 with Band 71 at the end of the year, and hopefully it is a Pixel 3 without an LG screen in it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotABiot View Post
    Well, to be honest, those wanting the still large coverage gap closed DO want it to work wherever people live, work, and play Covering 325 million only in their homes is a good start...

    (I'm expecting that the 600 mhz coverage expansion will be done and good by about 2020. If it is not, and the T-Mobile network is still, say. only 75% as good as Verizon's, THEN I will grouse. And along with this timeline, I will look for a Pixel 3 with Band 71 at the end of the year, and hopefully it is a Pixel 3 without an LG screen in it)
    Yes it's a huge start! Those last 3 million people covered are spread out over a large rural geographic area. I can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    Yes it's a huge start! Those last 3 million people covered are spread out over a large rural geographic area. I can't wait.
    The thing is, a huge proportion of the "325 million" do indeed travel. So it is not just 3 million. So I tend to think that the more meaningful measurement is "covering ALL Americans, where they go in America". So yes, it's ALL the American millions going everywhere, including the 25% or so of the territory that they are catching up on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BentleyBeard View Post
    Honestly, I could care less about POPs. I want square miles. Areas on T-Mobile’s coverage map that show “fair” for miles and miles shouldn’t be counted, as many of these areas are no service.
    I agree 100%. Many areas that are Fair are just No Service. I've hit this in SoCal, Vermont, New Hampshire and Michigan. Even areas tagged as Verified 4g LTE are No Service areas

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    Targeting 325 Million People Covered with LTE in 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by formercanuck View Post
    I agree 100%. Many areas that are Fair are just No Service. I've hit this in SoCal, Vermont, New Hampshire and Michigan. Even areas tagged as Verified 4g LTE are No Service areas

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    There’s an area just to the west of my house, which is not far outside the Oklahoma City area that shows “Verified,” but is actually no service. I have also seen these areas in Kansas and Texas. T-Mobile has a lot of work to do. I hope they are up for the task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BentleyBeard View Post
    There’s an area just to the west of my house, which is not far outside the Oklahoma City area that shows “Verified,” but is actually no service. I have also seen these areas in Kansas and Texas. T-Mobile has a lot of work to do. I hope they are up for the task.
    Here's my deal with this statement though. As a former AT&T user I can tell you that some of that orange map in California, Colorado, Utah, Arizona and Nevada are "no service," too. Just do a drive down the 10, 40, 15, 25 etc and drive off the beaten path.

    Overstating maps is not a T-Mobile only thing. They all do it.

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    Wonder why T-Mobile won't cover the Southern Center part of Vermont. That area is basiclly where all the ski resorts are.

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