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    AT&T: LTE speeds will double thanks to FirstNet

    https://www.fiercewireless.com/wirel...ks-to-firstnet


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    Hopefully this means AT&T will finally deploy every available LTE band on every cell site they operate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VVivian View Post
    Hopefully this means AT&T will finally deploy every available LTE band on every cell site they operate.
    While a great idea— it’s quite expensive. Running 2/4/5/12/14/29/30/66 on every single cell site (or at least 6 of those bands) is quite expensive and not as easy as it is for T-Mobile/Verizon/Sprint to do... each of those carriers runs 3-4 LTE carriers at most. Having separate RRU’s for that many bands costs a lot of money. I think the assumption AT&T is running on for FirstNet is that every site has 2/12/30 or 2/5/30 available before hand though, or at least will after the build.


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    Dual band RRUs are actually becoming a thing now. I'm not sure how efficient they are compared to two separate RRUs but if there's limitations on space or structural capacity there's a solution.

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    Are "double the speeds," due to the result of adding Band 14?
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    I believe it'll be the result of adding multiple bands.
    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    Are "double the speeds," due to the result of adding Band 14?
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    There's some suburban/exurban areas where they really don't need every band live all the time. Very rural areas where people are using LTE for home internet, and urban areas need full band deployment (minus 30, since that's FWI).

    Good to hear that they are expanding the network and adding capacity though. Hopefully we'll see more native coverage/ more total coverage as well.
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    It's about time. They've been sitting on spectrum for some time in colorado. I am impressed with 4x carrier aggregation and new bands running here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @TheRealDanny View Post
    Are "double the speeds," due to the result of adding Band 14?
    Doubtful. It's sort of a misleading title/claim but essentially they're just doing additional carrier adds and updating equipment (like the Nokia BBUs) so it's a combination of different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimMcGraff View Post
    Doubtful. It's sort of a misleading title/claim but essentially they're just doing additional carrier adds and updating equipment (like the Nokia BBUs) so it's a combination of different things.
    They’re also building C-RAN nodes and just signed a macro deal with crown castle.


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    Double from what to what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fyrfyter View Post
    Double from what to what?
    According to PCMag's testing, AT&T's average is over 30mbps. What matters is not top speeds, but rather consistency and reliability, as well as latency. The challenge is that with increasing data consumption as apps and websites have become more and more bloated is that even HSPA+ often get overwhelmed, so they need to finish upgrading to LTE, and adding capacity. Even though my phone would run 100% fine if I had my own 3.6mbps 3G tower with a single T1 for backhaul, from a capacity perspective, if the speeds are below 2-5mbps, things really start to bog down, latency goes way up, and stuff starts to not work properly.

    Last summer, I was on one of the few remaining 3G (not Faux G, actual "3G") sites on the AT&T network, on Beaver Island, MI, and it was OK, but it bogged down a bit, causing inconsistency in stuff loading. That area has since been upgraded to LTE.

    On the other end of the spectrum, while they aren't at Verizon's level, I think they've finally dug themselves out of the hole in NYC, which is good. It took a while, since they have no B4 there, and didn't have B2 phones at first, but now they've put lots more B2, some B5, B29, B30, and are now working on B14 and B66 AFAIK to improve capacity there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VVivian View Post
    Hopefully this means AT&T will finally deploy every available LTE band on every cell site they operate.
    Don't hold your breath, as that is not likely to ever happen.
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    I wanted to see what AT&T is doing in Vermont, so I went to the Vermont Public Utility Commission's website and loaded up a proposal for a tower modification near my house.

    It looks like AT&T is planning on upgrading the site which currently has UTMS, and Bands 2, 5, and 30 with additional hardware supporting B14 and B66. When it is all said and done, the tower will have UTMS, and LTE Bands 2/5/14/30/66.

    If anyone is interested in specifics, go to here:

    https://epsb.vermont.gov/?q=node/64/131825

    Select Prefiled Testimony, create a free account, and you can download the site plan and equipment specifications. This is just one example of an open permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeuten View Post
    They’re also building C-RAN nodes and just signed a macro deal with crown castle.


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    AT&T and Verizon are the only two carriers I see going crazy with C-RAN so it'll be interesting to see how the infrastructure grows with them. My dealings with Verizon C-RAN shows them going in places no other carriers are but their network philosophy seems to be a bit different than the others.

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