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    Regarding the original question, my original suggestion of using a lower cost MVNO, such as RP for example, and donating the savings directly to the organization/charity of your choice, seems like the best solution.

    For example, https://www.ebay.com/itm/132310276900 is $20.75/30 days, paid $249/360 days at the regular price. It would have been $16.60/30 days, paid $199.20/360 days if it would have been purchased with the 20% off eBay coupon a few days ago, or if you wait for the next 20% off eBay coupon.

    That would allow ~$20+/- savings over the $40/mo for the same UT&T+2GB plan at https://www.patriotmobile.com/plans!

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    Do you know how many you can buy at a time? How do you know when there is a coupon? It sounds good just thinking of how I am come up that kind of money upfront for two phone lines possibly 3.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StormTracker45 View Post
    Do you know how many you can buy at a time? How do you know when there is a coupon? It sounds good just thinking of how I am come up that kind of money upfront for two phone lines possibly 3.
    I don't know if there's a limit on how many you can buy, and I haven't seen any discussion about that.

    I have read that the eBay app notifies you if there is a coupon available. But I just watch HoFo and/or SlickDeals for posts announcing the coupons.

    https://www.howardforums.com/showthr...upon-is-204-00 is one thread where people have been posting about eBay coupons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormTracker45 View Post
    Anyone use Faith Wireless based out of North Carolina? They use sprint and Verizon towers. Another one I’m looking into is Charity Wireless they use Verizon towers as well. I was considering Patriot Mobile but they use strictly Sprint. I’m looking for a Christian Conservative run cell company and was wondering if anyone here had any experience with them.

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    Here too looking for the Chick-fil-a or Hobby Lobby of cell phone companies, as looking to switch carriers also, both for coverage issues and great also if company supports Christian causes. Charity Mobile https://www.charitymobile.com/ does use Verizon, at least from seeing from phones on their website are Verizon Wireless. They were founded by Catholics and support pro-life and pro-family causes. Patriot Mobile supports both conservative and Christian causes such as American Family Association and 2ndVote. Their CEO posted in their blog https://www.patriotmobile.com/blog/c...elebrate-life/ last December (I thought wow); however, as you say, they use Sprint, as also their coverage map is also indicative of that. Patriot also supports conservative gun rights which some may or may not support. Both companies' customer service are closed on Sundays per their FAQ contact info. For Faith Wireless, website says very Christian and kingdom based and may also use the Verizon Wireless network, am slightly concerned if bring your own phone, they only use the older CDMA network with Sprint phones per https://phones.faithwireless.com/Fai...-BYOP-Kit.html which unless they change, you will lose at least some coverage when that network is scheduled to be taken down in the future (see next paragraph). Faith Wireless's coverage map to zero in on an address is also down at this time, plus if important to you either way, it does not say on their website what their customer service hours are, whether they are closed or open on Sundays. From their contact info on the website, it appears Faith Wireless is associated with Quality One Wireless which has mixed user reviews on the Internet. Regardless which company above, if its a coverage issue, check https://www.cellmapper.net to see cell towers for any carrier i.e. Verizon Wireless, Sprint in your area or places you visit often, updated frequently, and for 4G towers can see down to the street level where the signal is pointing.

    As I am finding, there is not a perfect solution to support a fully Christian faith based cell phone company and for some to have quality coverage, like where I need it at home as have an 80 something year old mom with health issues living a few miles away from me, and she needs to reach me reliably. As for coverage, Verizon's service is degrading in my area, though have a combo 1x-CDMA and 4G LTE smartphone using for internet/apps/data which CDMA works fine for calls, Verizon has announced they are taking the older reliable network for calls down 12/31/2019 https://www.verizonwireless.com/supp...e-base-218813/ , whereas 4G LTE with HD voice (must have a compatible phone to work with it) where voice and data are shared in a weaker signal area such as mine incoming calls do not always ring through (and their signal boosting alternatives do not work for all apartment dwellers at least security wise if can be implemented at all). Sprint's not as far reaching network btw is planning to shut down their older CDMA networks in 2021-2022
    https://www.multitech.com/documents/...rriers_PDF.pdf. Btw, as an aside, if you have an older CDMA only flip phone, you will have to replace it before these CDMA network shutdowns (you can use the search tool at https://www.phonescoop.com to check if your phone is affected). Cellmapper link above shows Sprint just as weak as Verizon in my area, and though AT&T has better coverage here, its not a carrier that these conservative Christian or faith based companies partner with.

    Due to other life circumstances, I may end up moving locally/regionally in the next year to a better Verizon 4G LTE and Sprint coverage area and either support Charity Mobile, Catholic is to some extent like Christian or Patriot Mobile, Sprint coverage is alright locally if not travel too far, and discounting Faith Wireless. After Googling, not finding other Christian or close to Christian based cell phone companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurkcell View Post
    Here too looking for the Chick-fil-a or Hobby Lobby of cell phone companies, as looking to switch carriers also, both for coverage issues and great also if company supports Christian causes. Charity Mobile https://www.charitymobile.com/ does use Verizon, at least from seeing from phones on their website are Verizon Wireless. They were founded by Catholics and support pro-life and pro-family causes. Patriot Mobile supports both conservative and Christian causes such as American Family Association and 2ndVote. Their CEO posted in their blog https://www.patriotmobile.com/blog/c...elebrate-life/ last December (I thought wow); however, as you say, they use Sprint, as also their coverage map is also indicative of that. Patriot also supports conservative gun rights which some may or may not support. Both companies' customer service are closed on Sundays per their FAQ contact info. For Faith Wireless, website says very Christian and kingdom based and may also use the Verizon Wireless network, am slightly concerned if bring your own phone, they only use the older CDMA network with Sprint phones per https://phones.faithwireless.com/Fai...-BYOP-Kit.html which unless they change, you will lose at least some coverage when that network is scheduled to be taken down in the future (see next paragraph). Faith Wireless's coverage map to zero in on an address is also down at this time, plus if important to you either way, it does not say on their website what their customer service hours are, whether they are closed or open on Sundays. From their contact info on the website, it appears Faith Wireless is associated with Quality One Wireless which has mixed user reviews on the Internet. Regardless which company above, if its a coverage issue, check https://www.cellmapper.net to see cell towers for any carrier i.e. Verizon Wireless, Sprint in your area or places you visit often, updated frequently, and for 4G towers can see down to the street level where the signal is pointing.

    As I am finding, there is not a perfect solution to support a fully Christian faith based cell phone company and for some to have quality coverage, like where I need it at home as have an 80 something year old mom with health issues living a few miles away from me, and she needs to reach me reliably. As for coverage, Verizon's service is degrading in my area, though have a combo 1x-CDMA and 4G LTE smartphone using for internet/apps/data which CDMA works fine for calls, Verizon has announced they are taking the older reliable network for calls down 12/31/2019 https://www.verizonwireless.com/supp...e-base-218813/ , whereas 4G LTE with HD voice (must have a compatible phone to work with it) where voice and data are shared in a weaker signal area such as mine incoming calls do not always ring through (and their signal boosting alternatives do not work for all apartment dwellers at least security wise if can be implemented at all). Sprint's not as far reaching network btw is planning to shut down their older CDMA networks in 2021-2022
    https://www.multitech.com/documents/...rriers_PDF.pdf. Btw, as an aside, if you have an older CDMA only flip phone, you will have to replace it before these CDMA network shutdowns (you can use the search tool at https://www.phonescoop.com to check if your phone is affected). Cellmapper link above shows Sprint just as weak as Verizon in my area, and though AT&T has better coverage here, its not a carrier that these conservative Christian or faith based companies partner with.

    Due to other life circumstances, I may end up moving locally/regionally in the next year to a better Verizon 4G LTE and Sprint coverage area and either support Charity Mobile, Catholic is to some extent like Christian or Patriot Mobile, Sprint coverage is alright locally if not travel too far, and discounting Faith Wireless. After Googling, not finding other Christian or close to Christian based cell phone companies.
    Nothing wrong with Christian but I wouldn't put too much stock towards Chick-fil-A and christians. They charge high prices for chicken that's full of hormones and antibiotics so not very Christian like to sell chicken like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by veriztd View Post
    I would imagine they either offer service on Sprint or Verizon towers, not likely both at the same time since the 2 networks are competitors.
    Twigby uses both. Great customer service & good prices, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seddy View Post
    Twigby uses both. Great customer service & good prices, too.
    Twigby allows roaming on Vzw for talk and SMS only, but not data, correct?

    Will that Twigby talk and SMS roaming on Vzw end when Vzw CDMA ends 12/31/19?

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    I believe you're correct on that. I would bet that their roaming on voice & text will end at the end of 2019 when Verizon shuts down their CDMA network.

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    I thought Twiggy was a skinny English model in the 70s......
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    Quote Originally Posted by trackVW View Post
    I thought Twiggy was a skinny English model in the 70s......
    Wasnt twiggy the character from Buck Rogers?

    Maybe that was twiki

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    Quote Originally Posted by seddy View Post
    I believe you're correct on that. I would bet that their roaming on voice & text will end at the end of 2019 when Verizon shuts down their CDMA network.
    Twigby support says they will still have free roaming on Verizon when Verizon shuts down CDMA. I must say that I'm skeptical.

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    I ended up switching to Charity Mobile recently. Still have great Verizon Wireless network, and way better customer service at Charity Mobile, which customers speak for it - https://jobsforcatholics.com/job/490...epresentative/ 'Our customers tell us we have the best customer service in the industry' and https://www.reddit.com/r/Catholicism..._find_reviews/ 'Regardless of almost all other factors. But, I can say that I've never had a dropped call, never had bad service, never had to wait for a new phone when I've ordered one, never had problems with billing or my bills..I've actually never had a reason to call customer support for this company because nothing I've had with them has ever been a problem. I've never had that before with a phone carrier.'

    For self, besides what on their website https://www.charitymobile.com/ including links to Phones, Plans, Coverage, experience has been near great. Better value for the money I found, either lower bill for same GB of data, or more GB data for same price paying Verizon Wireless monthly. They ported two family current mobile phone numbers and phones in under an hour. Had some questions before switching, which unlike a lot of tech companies, each time at Charity Mobile 1-877-474-3662 a real person answered the phone in 3-4 rings (no voice response menu), helpful, patient, no sales pressure, caring, kind, and honest, and email support within hours during normal business hours, not days. What also is impressive with them over the phone, if they did not know the answer to any technical support questions immediately, they were back within 2 minutes with the information needed vs. Verizon and other large tech companies, at times spending hours on the phone sometimes getting what think is the simplest question or issue resolved, that is not Googleable. Like Chick-fil-a, Charity Mobile does take the extra mile to take care of its customers, saving them time and money.

    https://www.charitymobile.com/support.html with many questions answered on this page including information about voicemail, not repeating much of the information on their website. But also found either over the phone or email with them:

    - No throttling of data if go over data allowance, but they charge 4 cents per MB for overages.

    - They support call forwarding, all calls *72, and busy/no answer *71, if you need that.

    - For an older person who uses their flip phone for calls only, they can also disable text and multimedia messages if you request in addition to restricting data. Bought a new LG Exalt $75 for my older relative with Charity vs $144 at a Verizon store replacing an old LG Revere CDMA phone which received within the week by USPS Priority Mail, which included a complete copy of the user manual, not something you get if you buy the phone direct from Verizon Wireless which an older neighbor did getting the same phone. Like CFA sometimes will do, a couple other small positive appreciation surprises in the package.

    - For anyone you call not in their phone contact list, only your phone number transmits through on the caller ID.

    - Though backed up contacts, call logs, text messages, etc. using a free Google SyncDroid app, all that information transferred on my existing LG G7 phone automatically after swapping out the VZW SIM card with the Charity Mobile SIM card they sent for free, without using the app restore function or doing manually. You can BYOD device with Charity if its a Verizon 4G LTE phone with Advanced Calling, which they can confirm by phone or email giving them your phone's MEI #.

    - They do not support network extenders which Verizon Wireless directly sells, say if you were in a weak one bar signal area.

    - If your 4G LTE phone has a CDMA band on it, their SIM card supports that until the Verizon year end shutdown.

    - Optionally can pay bill online, with user interface includes all your unbilled call, text, and data detail to date (within 24 hours ago). My bill, for two lines, one a smartphone and another a basic flip phone for an up in years relative, with unlimited calls, texts, and 6GB of data, $85 a month total bill includes all taxes. With Verizon Wireless directly, this be around $110 month = $60 + $20 per line + taxes.

    - Estimating their customers in the thousands from this on their website 'Charity Mobile sends 5% of your plan's monthly cost to the Pro-Life, Pro-Family charity of your choice! Together with our loyal customers, we have sent nearly $2 million dollars to charities over the past 22 years.' You can do the calculations, with expecting they had fewer customers in earlier years.

    * Very clean Better Business Bureau record https://www.bbb.org/us/oh/cincinnati...-0292-90014478 .

    To limit direct competition with Verizon, as with any MVNO, Mobile Virtual Network Operator, reseller:

    - If you need fast devil 4G speeds 20-30 mbps or more for video or huge downloads when not on a home, office, or public Wifi or need a monthly data plan greater than 15GB, then stay or go with Verizon. Measured Charity Mobile's download data speeds using an app which came in at 6 mbps in 2-4 signal bar areas locally which works personally. This is enough for web browsing and most apps.

    - If ever a situation where network congestion, Verizon direct customers get priority. If you go to huge concerts or stadium games or similar situations very frequently, if Verizon does not have extra capacity there, your call may not get through.

    Just saying Charity Mobile's service using the Verizon Wireless network works well for some people, not everyone, getting some of the bells and whistles, but not all, and truly their customer service far exceeds of any tech company I experienced in my life.
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    spurkcell, I understand your desire to support a company that has values that match your values, but at the prices Charity Mobile charges, wouldn't you be MUCH better off using a competitively priced MVNO and donating the difference in cost to the pro-life or faith-based charitiy(ies) of you your choice?

    For example, it appears that an UT&T+2GB LTE plan will cost $44.90/mo + taxes/fees per https://www.charitymobile.com/plan-2gb.html . That $44.90/mo is $19.95/mo plan cost + $24.95/mo line cost. Charity Mobile says they will donate 5% of the $19.95/mo plan cost to a Pro-Life, Pro-Family charity of your choice, which is $1.00/mo.

    Instead, you could get a better UT&T&D, with 2GB/30days LTE, from Red Pocket eBay for $19.08/30 days, by buying a $229/360 days plan, and the last time I bought a RP plan from eBay, there were no taxes/fees added. https://www.redpocket.com/plans/ebay Not only is it significantly cheaper, the RP plan is also better because data is truly unlimited, with unlimited slower speeds after the 2GB/30 days is used up.

    So, it seems you would be a much better steward of your money to buy the RP plan and donate the difference of at least $25.82/mo (+taxes/fees that Charity collects) to a Pro-Life, Pro-Family charity of your choice, vs the $1.00/mo that Charity would donate if you paid them $44.90/mo + taxes/fees for a similar, but not quite as good plan.

    Please tell me if I'm misunderstanding something, but if I understand it correctly, you would be doing a WHOLE LOT more good to use a competitively priced MVNO and donating the difference to charity compared to using the very overpriced Charity Mobile!

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    Hmmm...I just looked above to earlier posts in this thread, and I see that I basically suggested the same thing on 06-10-2018, and expanded on it on 06-11-2018, with essentially the same explanation/example as I just gave above, although I think my newer explanation is more accurate with over $25/mo ADDITIONAL that could be donated instead of using the extremely overpriced Chatiry Mobile that would only donate $1/mo!

    spurkcell, please explain why it's better to overpay by around $26/mo and have only $1/mo donated to a charity on your behalf instead of paying a reasonably priced MVNO and donating the savings, which appears to be at least $25/mo, to a charity directly?

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