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    T-Mobile Mobile Internet Dilemma

    I currently have 5 $10 Simple Choice North America Mobile Internet lines on an account. I use these 5 lines, in conjunction with Google Voice, as cellular lines using cellular data and WiFi with various T-Mobile branded Android devices. For the most part, this setup works well. Most calls sound great with little distortion, however, Verizon calls and calls to landlines give the most issues. And there are times when the phone does not ring at all when somebody calls, even when there is a strong data connection or WiFi connection.

    As a test, I switched one of the Mobile Internet lines to the $10 Simple Choice North America for Wearables with Separate Number : Unlimited Talk + Text + 500MB High-Speed Data. With this line, I can make "real" calls on the T-Mobile network with any smartphone and while roaming domestically (since data calls while roaming sound horrible). The quality of calls are superior to the data calls of the Mobile Internet plan. However, the Wearable plan includes 500MB of high-speed data while the Mobile Internet plan includes 2GB of high-speed data. The Wearable plan does not allow for Mobile Hotspot use either.

    My fear is one day T-Mobile will block the Wearable plan from non-wearable equipment or limit the Wearable plan (again) to T-Mobile sold Wearables only. I worry less about the Mobile Internet plans being blocked since T-Mobile has less network restrictions on these type of devices. T-Mobile, technically, only allows T-Mobile branded Wearables on a wearable plan, but it seems this restriction has been lifted.

    Should I leave the lines on the Mobile Internet plans with 2GB of high-speed data or should I switch the lines over to the 500MB Wearable ? The Mobile Internet lines are less restrictive than the Wearable lines, at least according the plan verbage on the website. Do you think T-Mobile will ever block this line from use in any device other than a T-Mobile Wearable?

    Ideally, I would prefer to move all the lines over to the Wearable plan. I know the plan includes less high-speed data but it would be nice to use the cellular network to make "real" voice calls instead of data calls using Google Voice. Does anyone else have experience with this setup and if so, what do you recommend? I am hoping for a setup that will last for many years. I am torn on which plan to choose (for the long haul). I would like some suggestions and input on which plan has the most value for the money. And, do I have any valid concerns about the Wearable line being blocked down the road from using any Wearable device not sold by T-Mobile?

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    They can always block devices in the future. So there's no way to predict that. However, I think the chance of them blocking devices from the Simple Choice North America for Wearables plan because it's a grandfathered plan and since those plans are limited to 500 mb, they cost T-Mobile very little. So I can't see them going to the trouble to modify the plan.

    You may want to leave one of your five lines on the Mobile Internet plan in case something happens with the Wearables plan. Usually it's pretty easy to get them to add something you already have to additional lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet1000 View Post
    They can always block devices in the future. So there's no way to predict that. However, I think the chance of them blocking devices from the Simple Choice North America for Wearables plan because it's a grandfathered plan and since those plans are limited to 500 mb, they cost T-Mobile very little. So I can't see them going to the trouble to modify the plan.

    You may want to leave one of your five lines on the Mobile Internet plan in case something happens with the Wearables plan. Usually it's pretty easy to get them to add something you already have to additional lines.
    Quote Originally Posted by jet1000 View Post
    They can always block devices in the future. So there's no way to predict that. However, I think the chance of them blocking devices from the Simple Choice North America for Wearables plan because it's a grandfathered plan and since those plans are limited to 500 mb, they cost T-Mobile very little. So I can't see them going to the trouble to modify the plan.

    You may want to leave one of your five lines on the Mobile Internet plan in case something happens with the Wearables plan. Usually it's pretty easy to get them to add something you already have to additional lines.
    Thank you for your input, Jet.

    I think that is a very wise idea. I will probably switch 4 lines to the Wearable plan and keep 1 line as a Mobile Internet line. My wife is more picky than myself about her call clarity and reliability. I will probably keep my line as the Mobile Internet line and switch the family to the Wearable plans. We do not use a ton of mobile data and use WiFi most of the time. 2GB seemed to be the sweet spot for everyone on the plan, so 500MB is definitely a downgrade but actual network voice services will help the few who have more voice issues than myself. And for $10 per month, I really cannot complain about either plan. Both options save our family a ton of money over similar offerings.

    I did reach out to T-Force about the Wearable plan and if they still block non-T-Mobile branded equipment from this plan. The rep told me I am free to try the SIM in any network compatible device and if it works, great. I think this plan will go under the radar and will work with any device, except data first devices. This plan specifically blocks Mobile Hotspot Tethering, unlike the Mobile Internet plans.

    I wonder if T-Mobile now allows older plans, such as T-Zones, access to the web with a branded T-Mobile smartphone device. Maybe T-Mobile only blocks Mobile Hotspot Tethering from certain ineligible plans instead of not allowing specific devices from the network. It would seem easier, from a network perspective, to block Mobile Hotspot and Tethering from specific ineligible plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schippma View Post
    I currently have 5 $10 Simple Choice North America Mobile Internet lines on an account. I use these 5 lines, in conjunction with Google Voice, as cellular lines using cellular data and WiFi with various T-Mobile branded Android devices. For the most part, this setup works well. Most calls sound great with little distortion, however, Verizon calls and calls to landlines give the most issues. And there are times when the phone does not ring at all when somebody calls, even when there is a strong data connection or WiFi connection.

    As a test, I switched one of the Mobile Internet lines to the $10 Simple Choice North America for Wearables with Separate Number : Unlimited Talk + Text + 500MB High-Speed Data. With this line, I can make "real" calls on the T-Mobile network with any smartphone and while roaming domestically (since data calls while roaming sound horrible). The quality of calls are superior to the data calls of the Mobile Internet plan. However, the Wearable plan includes 500MB of high-speed data while the Mobile Internet plan includes 2GB of high-speed data. The Wearable plan does not allow for Mobile Hotspot use either.

    My fear is one day T-Mobile will block the Wearable plan from non-wearable equipment or limit the Wearable plan (again) to T-Mobile sold Wearables only. I worry less about the Mobile Internet plans being blocked since T-Mobile has less network restrictions on these type of devices. T-Mobile, technically, only allows T-Mobile branded Wearables on a wearable plan, but it seems this restriction has been lifted.

    Should I leave the lines on the Mobile Internet plans with 2GB of high-speed data or should I switch the lines over to the 500MB Wearable ? The Mobile Internet lines are less restrictive than the Wearable lines, at least according the plan verbage on the website. Do you think T-Mobile will ever block this line from use in any device other than a T-Mobile Wearable?

    Ideally, I would prefer to move all the lines over to the Wearable plan. I know the plan includes less high-speed data but it would be nice to use the cellular network to make "real" voice calls instead of data calls using Google Voice. Does anyone else have experience with this setup and if so, what do you recommend? I am hoping for a setup that will last for many years. I am torn on which plan to choose (for the long haul). I would like some suggestions and input on which plan has the most value for the money. And, do I have any valid concerns about the Wearable line being blocked down the road from using any Wearable device not sold by T-Mobile?
    Not intended to be critical, but asking, what's the attraction to a plan which by requires so much constant attention, has questionable reliability, with virtually no data. If your happy with Tm coverage, why not move to one of newer unlimited plans, and get away from jumping thru all those hoops, for what you're indicating is questionable service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plane View Post
    Not intended to be critical, but asking, what's the attraction to a plan which by requires so much constant attention, has questionable reliability, with virtually no data. If your happy with Tm coverage, why not move to one of newer unlimited plans, and get away from jumping thru all those hoops, for what you're indicating is questionable service.
    What alternative would you recommend that only costs $10 per month per line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schippma View Post

    I wonder if T-Mobile now allows older plans, such as T-Zones, access to the web with a branded T-Mobile smartphone device.
    As far as I know, T-Mobile continues to add new branded devices to their T-Zones blocking database to prevent data access. Maybe, one day, they'll end this as few people use the plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plane View Post
    Not intended to be critical, but asking, what's the attraction to a plan which by requires so much constant attention, has questionable reliability, with virtually no data. If your happy with Tm coverage, why not move to one of newer unlimited plans, and get away from jumping thru all those hoops, for what you're indicating is questionable service.
    Jet is right. The attraction to this plan is due to the price for my family and I. Most people do not require a cell phone that is constantly reliable. If someone cannot get ahold of me, they can leave a message. The service, using this method, is surprising good, but again, it does have its drawbacks.

    I would rather spend my money on other things than a cellular plan. If I can find a way to save some money, I will do it. If I can save over $100 per month on my cellular plan for minor issues, that's a small price to pay, at least in my book. But, to each their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schippma View Post
    Jet is right. The attraction to this plan is due to the price for my family and I. Most people do not require a cell phone that is constantly reliable. If someone cannot get ahold of me, they can leave a message. The service, using this method, is surprising good, but again, it does have its drawbacks.

    I would rather spend my money on other things than a cellular plan. If I can find a way to save some money, I will do it. If I can save over $100 per month on my cellular plan for minor issues, that's a small price to pay, at least in my book. But, to each their own.
    Understood........

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    I have been Using a 6GB Simple Choice Mobile internet plan with Google voice as my primary line for the past year. It is virtually unlimited data with the Bing On video and it has full speed hotspot and data "Stash" rollover up to 20GB. I do not like the Throttled video to ~1.5mbps.

    T mobile is very fast around me and I don't travel much. I have a $20 voice line with Cricket that I forward to Google voice. Yes I have missed many important calls but, as all of us I use voice less and less.

    Last year I was using a Dual sim phone (Axon 7) pairing the voice line with Mobile internet.

    THanks for the info on the Wearable line. I may give it a try.

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    This sounds almost too good to be true! I'm on the T-Mobile One 55+ plan that is limited to 2 voice lines, but I believe I can have a wearables line. So can I just order a wearables line (I have a new SIM card) with another number, pop it into an Android phone and make and receive calls and have up to 500MB of data? I guess the question is if this wearable plan (SOC NAW5MI?) is available on the One plan or if another wearable plan with the loophole that allows use in a phone is available. If so, what do I tell them I want to use as the wearable as the Gear S2, etc use an embedded SIM.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drooper View Post
    This sounds almost too good to be true! I'm on the T-Mobile One 55+ plan that is limited to 2 voice lines, but I believe I can have a wearables line. So can I just order a wearables line (I have a new SIM card) with another number, pop it into an Android phone and make and receive calls and have up to 500MB of data? I guess the question is if this wearable plan (SOC NAW5MI?) is available on the One plan or if another wearable plan with the loophole that allows use in a phone is available. If so, what do I tell them I want to use as the wearable as the Gear S2, etc use an embedded SIM.

    Thanks.
    I had one Wearable line I was testing for about a year and recently switched a total of 5 lines over to the Simple Choice North America for Wearables with Separate Number. The plan includes unlimited talk, text, and 500MB of high-speed data. But for $10 per line, that's a good deal.

    Since you are on a T-Mobile ONE plan 55+, you are eligible to add up to 5 Mobile Internet/Wearable lines to your account. Each Wearable line is $10 per month after auto pay and voice line discounts.

    Tell T-Mobile you want to be placed onto the T-Mobile ONE Wearable line with separate number for $25 per month per line (before discounts). This plan will include unlimited talk, text, and 3G data (about 600kbps). But with your plan, you could technically pay $120 per month for 7 lines of service (or $110 if you have the old $60 55+ plan). If the representative asks what device you will use, simply tell the representative you have a Watch you bought on Amazon (eBay, Alibaba, etc) that requires a SIM card and that you purchased a Watch that is compatible with T-Mobile. At least in my experience, T-Mobile has never questioned me about devices upon activation.

    Good luck on your decision and here's to hoping T-Mobile continues to allow any device to be used on a Wearable plan.

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    Hello Schippma and thank you for the information in this thread! I know you have the Simple Choice NA for Wearables and I think I located the SOC code for that (NAW5MI). I called T-Mobile care team and got a really nice guy, but he said that was a grandfathered plan and I could not get it on T-Mobile One. He seemed to be trying to steer me towards "Data with Paired Digits" ($10/mo after autopay) that he gave me a free 2-month trial of and said I could change it to another plan if I did not like it. So I signed up for it for now. It has basically the same features and the One plan you mentioned, but does not have a separate number - it is paired to my main line. In a way, I like that as I can use 2 phones on the same number. Much like in the old landline days of having 2 extensions. When I first got cell service, I wondered why I could not do that.

    Well, I'd still like to explore the plan you suggested - T-Mobile ONE Wearable line with separate number. Again, I know you are on the grandfathered plan, but do you have any reason to believe they closed the window to use any device when it is coupled with the ONE plan?
    I guess worst case I can sign up for it and if it will not work with a phone, just cancel it. I need to call them anyway to confirm that it would be $10/mo on my plan with autopay.

    Thanks again!

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    Would the SCNAWN plan work with a T-Mobile iPhone 6S? I currently have the SCNA 2GB plan for $8.50 (After employee discount). I currently use GV for calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drooper View Post
    Hello Schippma and thank you for the information in this thread! I know you have the Simple Choice NA for Wearables and I think I located the SOC code for that (NAW5MI). I called T-Mobile care team and got a really nice guy, but he said that was a grandfathered plan and I could not get it on T-Mobile One. He seemed to be trying to steer me towards "Data with Paired Digits" ($10/mo after autopay) that he gave me a free 2-month trial of and said I could change it to another plan if I did not like it. So I signed up for it for now. It has basically the same features and the One plan you mentioned, but does not have a separate number - it is paired to my main line. In a way, I like that as I can use 2 phones on the same number. Much like in the old landline days of having 2 extensions. When I first got cell service, I wondered why I could not do that.

    Well, I'd still like to explore the plan you suggested - T-Mobile ONE Wearable line with separate number. Again, I know you are on the grandfathered plan, but do you have any reason to believe they closed the window to use any device when it is coupled with the ONE plan?
    I guess worst case I can sign up for it and if it will not work with a phone, just cancel it. I need to call them anyway to confirm that it would be $10/mo on my plan with autopay.

    Thanks again!
    You cannot add any Simple Choice plan to a ONE plan. The rate plan you want for your ONE plan is called 'T-Mobile ONE Wearable with Separate Number.' The plan is $25 per month before discounts ($10 after discounts). This plan gives you its own unique phone number with your "Wearable". All data is limited to 3G data speeds.

    The Data with Paired Digits is also $10 but shares a phone line number with a smartphone already on the account. This option is good if you want to leave your smartphone in one spot and be able to extend your number to a "Wearable" device. I can also confirm by my testing the ONE Wearable plans are not blocked in non-wearable devices and native tethering does work on T-Mobile branded devices.

    Depending upon your needs, each provides a good value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tivoman View Post
    Would the SCNAWN plan work with a T-Mobile iPhone 6S? I currently have the SCNA 2GB plan for $8.50 (After employee discount). I currently use GV for calls.
    Yes, the 'Simple Choice North America for Wearables with Separate Number' plan will work with any device, including iPhones and Android devices. Data First devices (such as hotspots) are blocked and native tethering is disabled on T-Mobile branded smartphones. However, the plan is only $10 per month (plus taxes/fees) and Corporate Volume discounts/Government discounts are compatible with this plan.

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