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    Verizon gUDP Major Account Agreement (MAA)

    Hello!!

    I am wondering if there are any people on here who have experience with setting up a new Major Account Agreement (MAA) with Verizon and have success with getting Verizon to offer the old-school grandfathered unlimited data plans (gUDP). I know Verizon still has government and large corporation accounts who have access to adding gUDP lines (as many as they want).

    I am looking to sign a MAA for service with 100+ lines, but only if we are able to get the old style gUDP (no deprioritization after 22gb) and unlimited throughput/use. I know Verizon still does this, but it is hard to find the right people to contact to discuss it. If we could work out a deal, we may buy as many as 200-300 lines or more (assuming a reasonable rate). I am hoping for unlimited talk/text and gUDP for each line (the lines will use enterprise wifi a majority of the time), but need the ability to transfer large amounts of data (healthcare). This would be for a large hospital department in the operating rooms.

    Please let me know any experience anyone has with MAA and if you have specific Verizon contacts I could speak with about quoting this out.

    I appreciate it!

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    Did you contact a rep? https://www.verizonwireless.com/vzw/.../contactUs.jsp or you might need to go to the enterprise level https://www.verizonenterprise.com/Su...527.1548977805

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_intub8_u View Post
    Hello!!

    I am wondering if there are any people on here who have experience with setting up a new Major Account Agreement (MAA) with Verizon and have success with getting Verizon to offer the old-school grandfathered unlimited data plans (gUDP). I know Verizon still has government and large corporation accounts who have access to adding gUDP lines (as many as they want).

    I am looking to sign a MAA for service with 100+ lines, but only if we are able to get the old style gUDP (no deprioritization after 22gb) and unlimited throughput/use. I know Verizon still does this, but it is hard to find the right people to contact to discuss it. If we could work out a deal, we may buy as many as 200-300 lines or more (assuming a reasonable rate). I am hoping for unlimited talk/text and gUDP for each line (the lines will use enterprise wifi a majority of the time), but need the ability to transfer large amounts of data (healthcare). This would be for a large hospital department in the operating rooms.

    Please let me know any experience anyone has with MAA and if you have specific Verizon contacts I could speak with about quoting this out.

    I appreciate it!
    Very unlikely they’ll approve it but will appreciate if you can post back how it goes. When I was a rep, I spoke to even director. They will not approve it. Especially now with renters in market, very unlikely unless you can demonstrate them with the practical use.


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    What would be considered “practical use” for the plan?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pfwarrior View Post
    Very unlikely they’ll approve it but will appreciate if you can post back how it goes. When I was a rep, I spoke to even director. They will not approve it. Especially now with renters in market, very unlikely unless you can demonstrate them with the practical use.


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    It is for a group of doctors. Our practical use would be moving large amounts of medical data around--such as accessing very large image files like MRIs, Cat scans (CT), ultrasound images, being able to access our network shared drives wirelessly by using our VPN to get to large research data, etc.

    Can someone point me to a high up director who may have a shot at approving this? Everytime I start with a rep, they are so low on the totem pole, they don't even know what a MAA is or what the old (like really old, grandfathered) UDP plans are. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_intub8_u View Post
    It is for a group of doctors. Our practical use would be moving large amounts of medical data around--such as accessing very large image files like MRIs, Cat scans (CT), ultrasound images, being able to access our network shared drives wirelessly by using our VPN to get to large research data, etc.

    Can someone point me to a high up director who may have a shot at approving this? Everytime I start with a rep, they are so low on the totem pole, they don't even know what a MAA is or what the old (like really old, grandfathered) UDP plans are. Thanks!
    You're doing this remotely in the field?

    Does your hospital/network use Citrix or Remote Desktop by chance. They don't pull much.

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    We will preop at home, at the grocery store, review images, etc. Most of the time in the hospital, it is connected to the university hospital Wifi, but I would like the freedom to have unlimited data. Putting any sort of restriction on the data we can use will inevitably change the way our clinicians practice medicine (they will think twice about pulling up records, images, etc. if they do not have wifi), which is a crazy thing to do when you look at home much money we fork over to Verizon on a monthly basis. What is the point of paying a premium if everyone scrambles to get onto wifi all the time. Why are we paying Verizon so much? For the privilege to move 22gb across their network/month? So less than 1gb per day is somehow the quota Verizon thinks is acceptable? It's ridiculous. I still have my old gUDP from long ago which is theoretically unthrottled and not de-prioritized (although they did stick on the 1080p/720p caps for video which is stupid). They need to offer a true unlimited data plan, or at least be truthful with what they are offering (22gb, 50gb, 75 gb for the go, above, beyond tiers).

    We are not a bunch of teenagers watching cat videos on youtube or posting selfies on instagram. Our data plan should be able to be separate such as first responders or Police/Fire and have unlimited throughput.

    So if anyone can help me, that would be appreciated. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_intub8_u View Post
    We will preop at home, at the grocery store, review images, etc. Most of the time in the hospital, it is connected to the university hospital Wifi, but I would like the freedom to have unlimited data. Putting any sort of restriction on the data we can use will inevitably change the way our clinicians practice medicine (they will think twice about pulling up records, images, etc. if they do not have wifi), which is a crazy thing to do when you look at home much money we fork over to Verizon on a monthly basis. What is the point of paying a premium if everyone scrambles to get onto wifi all the time. Why are we paying Verizon so much? For the privilege to move 22gb across their network/month? So less than 1gb per day is somehow the quota Verizon thinks is acceptable? It's ridiculous. I still have my old gUDP from long ago which is theoretically unthrottled and not de-prioritized (although they did stick on the 1080p/720p caps for video which is stupid). They need to offer a true unlimited data plan, or at least be truthful with what they are offering (22gb, 50gb, 75 gb for the go, above, beyond tiers).

    We are not a bunch of teenagers watching cat videos on youtube or posting selfies on instagram. Our data plan should be able to be separate such as first responders or Police/Fire and have unlimited throughput.

    So if anyone can help me, that would be appreciated. Thanks!
    What you’re asking for is not offered sir and surely no director can now even do it after what happened with a school district that was allowed around 3/4 years ago. Also they will rather lose your business than risk another exploitation. Unless you’re state approved allowed to piggyback off the state’s procurement contracts, you certainly don’t stand a chance. Rest be assured your business is no way similar or closer to first responders. By the things you’re telling, I have heard and actually seen all these uses but somehow was not legit or actual need. I even approached a director internally. Sorry can’t do it. Instead of wasting your time here or even assuming liability for grandfathered plans, I will recommend find alternate carriers. T-Mobile could be an option.

    Thanks to Taccom and his affiliates, it will take a lot of scrutiny even if you somehow manage and will probably have routine and random audits with someone monitoring your account changes. Telling you this from experience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by i_intub8_u View Post
    We will preop at home, at the grocery store, review images, etc. Most of the time in the hospital, it is connected to the university hospital Wifi, but I would like the freedom to have unlimited data. Putting any sort of restriction on the data we can use will inevitably change the way our clinicians practice medicine (they will think twice about pulling up records, images, etc. if they do not have wifi), which is a crazy thing to do when you look at home much money we fork over to Verizon on a monthly basis. What is the point of paying a premium if everyone scrambles to get onto wifi all the time. Why are we paying Verizon so much? For the privilege to move 22gb across their network/month? So less than 1gb per day is somehow the quota Verizon thinks is acceptable? It's ridiculous. I still have my old gUDP from long ago which is theoretically unthrottled and not de-prioritized (although they did stick on the 1080p/720p caps for video which is stupid). They need to offer a true unlimited data plan, or at least be truthful with what they are offering (22gb, 50gb, 75 gb for the go, above, beyond tiers).

    We are not a bunch of teenagers watching cat videos on youtube or posting selfies on instagram. Our data plan should be able to be separate such as first responders or Police/Fire and have unlimited throughput.
    Well, firstly you are not first responders, you are a commercial business.

    Secondly, I don't buy that you are doing any pre-op on the go (in a grocery store). If this is really a group of MD, they can surely can afford to have wired internet at their houses (WiFi). That would be even partially tax deductible.

    Lastly the "net neutrality" meant that everyone's data is equal. A doctor's pre-op activity is as important as a teenager watching HD and 4K videos of cats (or porn).
    We almost got what we deserved as a society... the "freedom of information" (aka porn videos win), if Donald Trump's administration wouldn't reversed the rulings. However, if you live in California, they have their own "net neutrality" implemented, so... Youtube and Netflix wins again. You can tell where the money are coming from.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality

    PS: Biggest data usage in US below. It has on places 6, 7 and 8 porn, so I wasn't kidding. On 2 and 3 are Facebook and youtube. Amazon pulls number 4. All those will benefit from so called "net neutrality".
    https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/united-states

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfwarrior View Post
    What you’re asking for is not offered sir and surely no director can now even do it after what happened with a school district that was allowed around 3/4 years ago. Also they will rather lose your business than risk another exploitation. Unless you’re state approved allowed to piggyback off the state’s procurement contracts, you certainly don’t stand a chance. Rest be assured your business is no way similar or closer to first responders. By the things you’re telling, I have heard and actually seen all these uses but somehow was not legit or actual need. I even approached a director internally. Sorry can’t do it. Instead of wasting your time here or even assuming liability for grandfathered plans, I will recommend find alternate carriers. T-Mobile could be an option.

    Thanks to Taccom and his affiliates, it will take a lot of scrutiny even if you somehow manage and will probably have routine and random audits with someone monitoring your account changes. Telling you this from experience.


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    Verizon would be free to come to the hospital/operating rooms and have discussions with us if they believe we are trying to skirt the system. Verizon literally has micro cells installed in the operating room (it’s in a basement—typical for large hospital systems).

    I’m not sure how you are qualified to try to compare our job to that of first responders and need for access to data at a moments’ notice, but you are incorrect. We take care of patients who are essentially coming in dead from the field from trauma—gun shot wounds, stabbings, massive motor vehicle collisions. And performing routine heart, lung, kidney, pancreas transplants, etc.

    I’m not here to debate my need/want for the data, simply trying to find who can help me get this type of plan. You always see Verizon and ATT putting out commercials where they hype how they can help the health care industry and they show operating rooms, etc. but we see very little involvement from them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SoNic67 View Post
    Well, firstly you are not first responders, you are a commercial business.

    Secondly, I don't buy that you are doing any pre-op on the go (in a grocery store). If this is really a group of MD, they can surely can afford to have wired internet at their houses (WiFi). That would be even partially tax deductible.

    Lastly the "net neutrality" meant that everyone's data is equal. A doctor's pre-op activity is as important as a teenager watching HD and 4K videos of cats (or porn).
    We almost got what we deserved as a society... the "freedom of information" (aka porn videos win), if Donald Trump's administration wouldn't reversed the rulings. However, if you live in California, they have their own "net neutrality" implemented, so... Youtube and Netflix wins again. You can tell where the money are coming from.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality

    PS: Biggest data usage in US below. It has on places 6, 7 and 8 porn, so I wasn't kidding. On 2 and 3 are Facebook and youtube. Amazon pulls number 4. All those will benefit from so called "net neutrality".
    https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/united-states
    Regardless of your thoughts of a level 1 trauma center with a catchment area of over 1 million people being classified as a commercial business, that doesn’t change our data needs. Somehow a first responder emt deserves a priority network but the doctors who perform brain surgery and heart transplants don’t? Is it because they work for the gov’t (even though many EMTs are private) that u think they deserve a priority channel on a private company’s network? And because we are a non-profit hospital “business” we somehow don’t deserve the ability to pay for priority access? Who gets to decide this? The illogical ends in your response are bountiful.

    I think u massively underestimate how many hours we tend to spend in the ORs. 12 hours shifts are a daily occurrence. And 24 hour shifts q1-2 (every other day or 2 days). We get add on cases in the middle of the day while caring for a patient. Most of the preop is done on my cell phone. Looking up old records, reading progress notes, looking up current meds. And a lot of pre-op discussions the night before surgery take place after I go home at 7-8pm while I’m at the grocery store, or driving to/from the store, playing with my kids, making dinner, etc. I have a fiber connection at home, but for the 12-24 hours (sometimes even 36 hour shifts) of the day I’m not at home, it would be wonderful to have backup unlimited access to a strong data network.

    I don’t see why u bring porn and net neutrality into the argument. What people use their connections for are up to them. I don’t discriminate. I’m just looking for the right department to chat with about this.

    Thanks!


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    A call directly to Verizon would most likely garner you the most correct and hassle free answer. Not sure why an organizational head would want to air their professional situation in an open forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemew View Post
    A call directly to Verizon would most likely garner you the most correct and hassle free answer. Not sure why an organizational head would want to air their professional situation in an open forum.

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    The odds of you doing this are about zero. I tried about 15 months ago. And I even had existing gUDP lines that I just wanted to encapsulate into an ECPD/MAA.

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